Thread: Abortion doc shot at church

I have more respect for homeless people than these so called 'doctor', who have licence to kill.

Originally Posted by chobby192

I have more respect for homeless people than these so called 'doctor', who have licence to kill.

You're a fuckwit.

I was going to explain why, but it's not worth the effort.

Religious nuts.

Originally Posted by chobby192

I have more respect for homeless people than these so called 'doctor', who have licence to kill.

I agree with the above post. You are a total "fuckwit."

Originally Posted by chobby192

I have more respect for homeless people than these so called 'doctor', who have licence to kill.

if you had been born with "terrible deformities" you'd give that statement some thought before you say it so lightheartedly. often severely deformed children suffer heinous emotional and physical pain their whole lives. i'm sure that's real fun.



too bad they can't test for stupidity. or violence... what if they knew a child was going to be the next hitler?

Originally Posted by chobby192

I have more respect for homeless people than these so called 'doctor', who have licence to kill.

ROID 007............

Originally Posted by Little Wing

too bad they can't test for stupidity. or violence... what if they knew a child was going to be the next hitler?

Stupidity and violence are taught and learned, not born with it. Do you Hitler and Binladen were violent when they were born?

hey guys,
Don't call me religious nut. I don't believe in god. I just believe in standing up for voiceless and helpless.

Go tell it on the mountain

this is fucked up. i absolutely don't agree with late term abortion. i have major issues with the idea of late term abortion. terrible to kill a child like that. terrible on the womans psyche as well.

with all of that. killing this man was the act of a coward. this in no way helps the cause of those against abortion. as much as i hate abortion i think overturning roe vs wade is not the right thing for our country.

SIGH. So much anti-religion people. We're nearing the revelations chapter. The end is nigh.

I'm not taking a religious stance, but abortion is a load of balls. Did you ever watch the video of the guy with no arms and no legs??? Did he wish he was dead?? No

You're denying a child the right to life, to feel the sunshine in his skin, the breeze in his hair, to feel love from other people. I'd rather have these and also have the consequences that come with it than be killed and sucked out by a vacuum.

"I had an amnio to confirm the problems and get some answers. The amnio showed us that we were expecting our first baby boy, but it also showed that the baby had Trisomy 18. His brain hadn't formed correctly, he had scoliosis as well as spina bifida, he was missing bones, he had malformed fingers, a deformed stomach, club feet, and a whole list of other problems that would leave him completely helpless and in pain. The doctors told us that if he should survive past birth, he would need endless surgeries to be able to live. From the moment he was born, he would be in an operating room, and there was no guarantee that he would pull through.
I had always told my husband if anything like this were to happen, we would have to spare our child from pain. We chose to spare our child from a lifetime of suffering."




probably this issue looks a lot different for people like this woman and her husband than from the seat of a high horse.

^^^that is obviously a terrible thing to have to deal with. fortunately it is the exception not the rule. i think when people have issues with late term abortion it is not under these circumstances.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

^^^that is obviously a terrible thing to have to deal with. fortunately it is the exception not the rule. i think when people have issues with late term abortion it is not under these circumstances.

Yes biochem

And if the fetus is to die, atleast let it die naturally rather than have its blood stained on your hands, right?

Originally Posted by T_man

Yes biochem

And if the fetus is to die, atleast let it die naturally rather than have its blood stained on your hands, right?

I have nothing but sympathy and prayers for the woman in that story. i hope i never have to deal with a similar situation with a child.
As devastating as a miscarriage is I take comfort in the fact that God designed a womans body to take care of circumstances such as that.

I'm opposed to abortion, but this is not the way to resolve it.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I take comfort in the fact that God designed a womans body to take care of circumstances such as that.

Yeah god is such an intelligent designer, isn't he.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

"I had an amnio to confirm the problems and get some answers. The amnio showed us that we were expecting our first baby boy, but it also showed that the baby had Trisomy 18. His brain hadn't formed correctly, he had scoliosis as well as spina bifida, he was missing bones, he had malformed fingers, a deformed stomach, club feet, and a whole list of other problems that would leave him completely helpless and in pain. The doctors told us that if he should survive past birth, he would need endless surgeries to be able to live. From the moment he was born, he would be in an operating room, and there was no guarantee that he would pull through.
I had always told my husband if anything like this were to happen, we would have to spare our child from pain. We chose to spare our child from a lifetime of suffering."

probably this issue looks a lot different for people like this woman and her husband than from the seat of a high horse.

Ofcourse life is not all black and white. There should always be exception for the extreme cases...

..but that is not how it looks like:

WORLD WIDE ABORTION STATISTICS
The following is a list of useful abortion statistics as well as some facts on abortifacients. All abortion numbers are derived from pro-abortion sources courtesy of The Alan Guttmacher Institute and Planned Parenthood's Family Planning Perspectives.
WORLDWIDE
Number of abortions per year: Approximately 46 Million Number of abortions per day: Approximately 126,000
Where abortions occur:78% of all abortions are obtained in developing countries and 22% occur in developed countries.
Legality of abortion:About 26 million women obtain legal abortions each year, while an additional 20 million abortions are obtained in countries where it is restricted or prohibited by law.
Abortion averages:Worldwide, the lifetime average is about 1 abortion per woman.
© Copyright 1999-2000, The Alan Guttmacher Institute. (Guttmacher Institute: Home Page)
UNITED STATES
Number of abortions per year: 1.37 Million (1996)
Number of abortions per day: Approximately 3,700
Who's having abortions (age)?52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%.
Who's having abortions (race)?While white women obtain 60% of all abortions, their abortion rate is well below that of minority women. Black women are more than 3 times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are roughly 2 times as likely.
Who's having abortions (marital status)?
64.4% of all abortions are performed on never-married women; Married women account for 18.4% of all abortions and divorced women obtain 9.4%.
Who's having abortions (religion)?
Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical".
Who's having abortions (income)?
Women with family incomes less than $15,000 obtain 28.7% of all abortions; Women with family incomes between $15,000 and $29,999 obtain 19.5%; Women with family incomes between $30,000 and $59,999 obtain 38.0%; Women with family incomes over $60,000 obtain 13.8%.
Why women have abortions
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
At what gestational ages are abortions performed:
52% of all abortions occur before the 9th week of pregnancy, 25% happen between the 9th & 10th week, 12% happen between the 11th and 12th week, 6% happen between the 13th & 15th week, 4% happen between the 16th & 20th week, and 1% of all abortions (16,450/yr.) happen after the 20th week of pregnancy.
Likelihood of abortion:An estimated 43% of all women will have at least 1 abortion by the time they are 45 years old. 47% of all abortions are performed on women who have had at least one previous abortion.
Abortion coverage:48% of all abortion facilities provide services after the 12th week of pregnancy. 9 in 10 managed care plans routinely cover abortion or provide limited coverage. About 14% of all abortions in the United States are paid for with public funds, virtually all of which are state funds. 16 states (CA, CT, HI, ED, IL, MA , MD, MD, MN, MT, NJ, NM, NY, OR, VT, WA and WV) pay for abortions for some poor women.
© Copyright 1998, The Alan Guttmacher Institute. (Guttmacher Institute: Home Page)
© Copyright 1997, The Alan Guttmacher Institute. (Guttmacher Institute: Home Page)
© Copyright 1995, Family Planning Perspectives
© Copyright 1988, Family Planning Perspectives
source: Center for Bioethical Reform

1% rape and incest
6% Potential health problems regarding either mother or child
93% social reasons (child is unwanted or inconvenient)

Originally Posted by T_man

SIGH. So much anti-religion people. We're nearing the revelations chapter. The end is nigh.

I have 2 friends constantly say this.
One said the date was in the '80's I forget what religion he was into, he went to the crazy house shortly after that.....I see him talking to pigeons now.... a shell of his former shelf.

The other friend is a Jehova witness who says it all the time, they kicked him out of the religion because of some problem he had with his wife.....he say's it's the best thing ever to happen to him. Now he can think and act for himself.


The world is flat, it's going to end yesterday....they have been proven wrong so many times it's it now pathetic.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

I have 2 friends constantly say this.
One said the date was in the '80's I forget what religion he was into, he went to the crazy house shortly after that.....I see him talking to pigeons now.... a shell of his former shelf.

The other friend is a Jehova witness who says it all the time, they kicked him out of the religion because of some problem he had with his wife.....he say's it's the best thing ever to happen to him. Now he can think and act for himself.


The world is flat, it's going to end yesterday....they have been proven wrong so many times it's it now pathetic.

I was joking min0

Why does everyone think just because I'm religious I'm coming down with a heavy hand?? ^^

Originally Posted by T_man

I was joking min0

nicely done

Originally Posted by T_man

I was joking min0

Why does everyone think just because I'm religious I'm coming down with a heavy hand?? ^^

Oh, there are some out there with that thought.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

this is fucked up. i absolutely don't agree with late term abortion. i have major issues with the idea of late term abortion. terrible to kill a child like that. terrible on the womans psyche as well.

with all of that. killing this man was the act of a coward. this in no way helps the cause of those against abortion. as much as i hate abortion i think overturning roe vs wade is not the right thing for our country.

The White House issued a statement Sunday evening from President Obama on the murder of George Tiller. Here's what the president said:

I am shocked and outraged by the murder of Dr. George Tiller as he attended church services this morning. However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence.

Dumbass... I understand this guy's disdain for Tiller, but killing him only tarnishes the whole pro-life movement.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

Dumbass... I understand this guy's disdain for Tiller, but killing him only tarnishes the whole pro-life movement.

That's what I'm alway's wondering when I hear they've bombed a doctor's office or had a shooting spree. Some of those clinic's do other things like help men and women with fertility and then some ass hole blows it up not caring about the people who are there that want to have children......

Originally Posted by maniclion

That's what I'm alway's wondering when I hear they've bombed a doctor's office or had a shooting spree. Some of those clinic's do other things like help men and women with fertility and then some ass hole blows it up not caring about the people who are there that want to have children......

Kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it

Once again i think this is F*cking stupid. Another thing that should be up to the person that is going for an abortion not anybody else. I think it is great that their are laws that prevent having a abortion after a given time frame.

But I stand by abortions, why have a kid if they cant raise it properly, maybe a parent aint around, maybe the mom is crack head, there are so many reasons. It is just SOMETIMES the best thing to do.

An poor doctor...i wish his family the best.

Originally Posted by Uba

Once again i think this is F*cking stupid. Another thing that should be up to the person that is going for an abortion not anybody else. I think it is great that their are laws that prevent having a abortion after a given time frame.

But I stand by abortions, why have a kid if they cant raise it properly, maybe a parent aint around, maybe the mom is crack head, there are so many reasons. It is just SOMETIMES the best thing to do.

An poor doctor...i wish his family the best.

There is NO excuse. Adoption is available. Contraception is available. Abstaining is available. One of my kindest and best teachers was a adopted. There's plenty of people who were adopted who are sure glad their parents weren't so disgusting as to place their own selfishness above the life of their child. It is NEVER the best thing to do.

This idiocy of it's "up to the person going to get an abortion" ignores the fact that there is a human life being extinguished by their action. It's no more valid than me stating this guy's decision to kill this abortionist was between him and his gun and ammunition dealer, it's not your right to interfere in the private matter.

well said brogers.

however, i think the issue here is with children who would be born with disabilities and have a low quality of life?? What do you think of that?

Why don't we just off all of the people with disabilities, born or unborn?

Of course it's been done before, in Nazi Germany.

How about you decide exactly how valuable someone's life is and then determine whether or not they live. Why not just kill someone when they get crippled or lose a limb. We could also kill everyone with Alzheimers or who has had a stroke.