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    North Korea talks tough as Clinton raises stakes
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    SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea threatened on Monday to retaliate with "extreme" measures if the United Nations punished it for last month's nuclear test, with Washington saying it may put Pyongyang back on its list of states that sponsor terrorism.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Sunday North Korea's recent activities were being scrutinized for evidence of "support for international terrorism," a designation that could subject the impoverished state to more financial sanctions.

    The U.N. Security Council may adopt a new resolution as early as this week, but there is clear division among some members over how tough the measures against the reclusive state should be.

    "Our response would be to consider sanctions against us as a declaration of war and answer it with extreme hardline measures," the North Korea's official Rodong Sinmun newspaper said in a commentary.

    An increasingly aggressive North indicated it was gearing up for fresh moves, issuing a no-sail warning off its east coast up to 260 km (160 miles) off the Wonsan area from where it launched a missile in May and a barrage of short-range missiles in 2006.

    Underscoring the divide in how to handle Pyongyang, Japanese Foreign Minister Hirofumi Nakasone called for a strong resolution to make it clear that such tests would not be forgiven, while Chinese counterpart Yang Jiechi at a meeting in Tokyo said a "balanced" resolution was needed.

    Clinton said last week that Washington was seeking the strongest possible resolution.

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    The United States removed North Korea from its terrorism blacklist in October in a bid to revive faltering six-party nuclear disarmament talks, prompting the North to take some measures to disable its nuclear facilities.

    Pyongyang has since reversed those steps and said it had restarted the nuclear complex -- including reprocessing nuclear fuel to obtain weapons-grade plutonium.

    Many analysts believe the North's belligerence may be largely aimed at a domestic audience with autocratic leader Kim Jong-il using it to bolster his position at home with the military and to better secure the succession for his youngest son Kim Jong-un.

    His eldest son, Kim Jong-nam, told Japanese television over the weekend that he would not be surprised to see his brother take over because their father was very fond of him.

    Speculation has for months focused on the health of Kim Jong-il, 67, who is thought to have a stroke last year. If the youngest son does take over it would be the third generation to head the world's first communist dynasty.

    Renewed tensions over North Korea's nuclear program also coincide with the trial in recent days of two American female journalists held in Pyongyang.

    Analysts say the pair, who were working for the Current TV network co-founded by former U.S. Vice President Al Gore, have become bargaining chips in negotiations with the United States.

    Clinton said it was not clear how the case would be resolved, but appealed for the two women's release, saying their case was a humanitarian issue and separate from the nuclear dossier. North Korea said the trial began on June 4 but has made no further comment on the proceedings.

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    North Korea plays hardball with Obama over jailed reporters
    U.S. journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee have been sentenced to 12 years of hard labor after being found guilty of the "grave crime" of illegally crossing into North Korea. Hard labor in the North Korean prison system could easily be tantamount to a death sentence, but it seems at least possible that the increasingly unpredictable regime in Pyongyang may be prepared to let them go in return for major concessions from the administration of U.S. President Barack Obama.

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    The reporters got "hard labor". I wonder what kind of stuff they will make them do? Smash rocks or what?

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    N. Korea is out of control, something needs to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    N. Korea is out of control, something needs to be done.
    What's your suggestion?


    I think we (US and allies need to start an air bombing campain and destroy most of their nuclear plants, missle sites and such. Send them a message that the world will not stand for their bullying attitude. They can't fight us and our allies. But getting everyone to agree on this will never happen.




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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    What's your suggestion?
    pull out of Iraq, a complete waste of resources, time and lives, and send them to a war that matters, in other words go to war with N. Korea, they obviously are not going to reason with us or anyone else and they are a definite threat to everyone.

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    Or we could trick the Muslim's into thinking Allah has told them that Lil' Kim Jong is Satan incarnate, they turn their focus on him and then we go in and sweep up the pieces........
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Or we could trick the Muslim's into thinking Allah has told them that Lil' Kim Jong is Satan incarnate, they turn their focus on him and then we go in and sweep up the pieces........


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post


    It's a pun on his short stature hence the Jong, dudes 5ft 3, wears platform shoes and high hair to try to be taller.....I can see him as a rapper like Lil' Wayne with his hit "I wris I was a ritter bit tarler wris I was a barler, wris I had a bigga dick so I could feer more than the pussy rips when I barl her....."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROID View Post
    If going to war was the right answer then there wouldn't be anymore war.
    unfortunately that is how "we" resolve irreconcilable differences between countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    unfortunately that is how "we" resolve irreconcilable differences between countries.

    I agree with war 100% because it's the only reason I have a job. It profits the US to be involved in conflict(s). Sometimes I wonder if America would survive if we didn't constantly have a military presence all over the world in literally every country. It's nice to be a cocky American
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROID View Post
    It's nice to be a cocky American
    More like cock-filled!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    What's your suggestion?


    I think we (US and allies need to start an air bombing campain and destroy most of their nuclear plants, missle sites and such. Send them a message that the world will not stand for their bullying attitude. They can't fight us and our allies. But getting everyone to agree on this will never happen.

    Yeah great idea! Let's just bomb some random stuff and piss them off. Meanwhile they have one of the world's largest (if not largest) concentrations of artillery and rocket launchers all stationed along their border, within range of Seoul. I'm sure the South Koreans would be very pleased with losing 50% of Seoul's population within hours of the first engagement. Osan AFB would probably be within range of some of their ordinance as well. Perhaps this is why the North Koreans haven't been dealt with in the same manner as others...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brogers View Post
    Yeah great idea! Let's just bomb some random stuff and piss them off. Meanwhile they have one of the world's largest (if not largest) concentrations of artillery and rocket launchers all stationed along their border, within range of Seoul. I'm sure the South Koreans would be very pleased with losing 50% of Seoul's population within hours of the first engagement. Osan AFB would probably be within range of some of their ordinance as well. Perhaps this is why the North Koreans haven't been dealt with in the same manner as others...
    do you have a better fucking idea genius?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brogers View Post
    Yeah great idea! Let's just bomb some random stuff and piss them off. Meanwhile they have one of the world's largest (if not largest) concentrations of artillery and rocket launchers all stationed along their border, within range of Seoul. I'm sure the South Koreans would be very pleased with losing 50% of Seoul's population within hours of the first engagement. Osan AFB would probably be within range of some of their ordinance as well. Perhaps this is why the North Koreans haven't been dealt with in the same manner as others...
    Looks like a good place to start......in fact initiate the whole process by having the guards at that border crossing where they stand a few feet from each other lift their rifles and give the N. Korean guards 5 seconds to either drop their guns and surrender or plug them between the eyes , at the 2 second mark the first wave of explosions would start, FOOOOMMM FOOOOOOMMMM, I bet they would drop their rifles and a couple little turds in their britches.......that would be so funny to see.
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