Thread: Obama's approval lowest level on record at this point

oh the irony, the worst US president (that would be GWB) had the highest approval rating.

Yeah, that sure makes this list worthless.

Bush got us in there and Obama can't seem to get us out so it seems.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Yeah, that sure makes this list worthless.

Bush got us in there and Obama can't seem to get us out so it seems.

he's only been in office 9 months, I don't understand why we stood back and watched GWB fuck everything up for 8 solid years now we think Obama is going to turn it around in 1 year?

True.

Originally Posted by Robert D.

he's only been in office 9 months, I don't understand why we stood back and watched GWB fuck everything up for 8 solid years now we think Obama is going to turn it around in 1 year?

It's quite simple, when you walk into a store and use a credit card for every single purchase, and eventually you realize you're in debt and you have no more money coming in that can pay the debt off, do you keep using that credit card, and on top of that take out a few more???? That's basically what's going on here, yes, bush f'd things up, not alone btw, so if we saw where he screwed up and how it happened, why aren't we trying to FIX it? The answer's quite simple, America chose an inexperienced politician, who strongly believes in social welfare, and redistribution of wealth. It's a lot easier to just keep making government bigger and a hell of a lot easier to just keep increasing debt and taxation rather than actually bank on a possible solution. The most hilarious part about this, is in 3 years, what's the excuse going to be? He needs another term to fix things, its only been 4 years? The policies and attitude he has put into place and is trying to put into place is going to slowly and surely kill the core of this DEMOCRATIC, CAPITALIST country, which we have been fighting to protect and promote for decades. It's time to stop blaming Bush for our problems and look forward and figure out what we're doing wrong and who is going to actually fix it.

Originally Posted by mcguin

The most hilarious part about this, is in 3 years, what's the excuse going to be? He needs another term to fix things, its only been 4 years?

not by me, I don't subscribe to either party, if things are more fucked up in 4 years I will say get him the fuck out.

Originally Posted by mcguin

The most hilarious part about this, is in 3 years, what's the excuse going to be? He needs another term to fix things, its only been 4 years?

If he failed after 4 years I wouldn't vote for him either.....but then Bush had a second chance.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

-- George W. Bush, 86 percent "At this point in his career he was riding the shockwave of 9/11 and his " (I can hear you. The rest of the world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon.)" That shit choked me up then, I thought it was gonna go down in history like The Sermon on the Mount, but no he fucked that up real quick....


-- Bill Clinton, 52 percent
-- George H.W. Bush, 71 percent
-- Ronald Reagan, 49 percent "Wow, this looks very similar, coming in on an economic crisis, people are jobless and worried about money so they blame the person on top, even if he just got there"
-- Jimmy Carter, 57 percent
-- Gerald Ford, 52 percent
-- Richard Nixon, 59 percent
-- Lyndon Johnson, 74 percent
-- John Kennedy, 77 percent
-- Dwight Eisenhower, 69 percent
-- Harry Truman, 49 percent "Not bad for a guy who had the job fall into his lap at the ass end of one of the toughest wars known to history...."

Franklin Roosevelt had been in office more than five years before Gallup began taking presidential approval polls. During his remaining years as president, Roosevelt never fell below 48 percent.

The poll is an average of a three-day tracking of 1,529 adults taken Dec. 4-6. It has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

Shouldn't the number of people polled increase with the population?

Originally Posted by mcguin

It's quite simple, when you walk into a store and use a credit card for every single purchase, and eventually you realize you're in debt and you have no more money coming in that can pay the debt off, do you keep using that credit card, and on top of that take out a few more???? That's basically what's going on here, yes, bush f'd things up, not alone btw, so if we saw where he screwed up and how it happened, why aren't we trying to FIX it? The answer's quite simple, America chose an inexperienced politician, who strongly believes in social welfare, and redistribution of wealth. It's a lot easier to just keep making government bigger and a hell of a lot easier to just keep increasing debt and taxation rather than actually bank on a possible solution. The most hilarious part about this, is in 3 years, what's the excuse going to be? He needs another term to fix things, its only been 4 years? The policies and attitude he has put into place and is trying to put into place is going to slowly and surely kill the core of this DEMOCRATIC, CAPITALIST country, which we have been fighting to protect and promote for decades. It's time to stop blaming Bush for our problems and look forward and figure out what we're doing wrong and who is going to actually fix it.

What if in 3 years he has turned things around? What if in 3 years we are prosperous? You still wouldn't vote for him. That's the problem with people being partisan, regardless of success or failure, they always stick with their guy.

Just waiting for the Rush quotes on how Even the black people don't believe in Obama anymore lol.

Originally Posted by Robert D.

oh the irony, the worst US president (that would be GWB) had the highest approval rating.

GWB's rating was skewed by 9/11.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

GWB's rating was skewed by 9/11.

It started with 9/11, the 7 years of horrible decision making and ludicrous spending drove it where it is. That's probably what is driving Obama down, it seems peeps are becoming more and more aware that we are going to have to pay this shit back eventually. Rather than take the money that is coming in from companies paying back the bailout to pay back our debt, we are spending it elsewhere. The spending has to stop at some point, or at least slow down.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

GWB's rating was skewed by 9/11.

No it wasn't. His rating is bad, because he always made bad decisions.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

What if in 3 years he has turned things around? What if in 3 years we are prosperous? You still wouldn't vote for him. That's the problem with people being partisan, regardless of success or failure, they always stick with their guy.

who said anything about being partisan, I simply am disagreeing with OBAMA's approach to "fixing" the country. For the record, I am a fiscal conservative. I am moderate with other issues as well. I don't align myself with the republican party, I jumped ship while Bush was doing his thing. The republican party of today isn't the same republican party is used to be. I'm simply stating that I don't feel that what Obama is doing will change things for the good at all, but my argument doesn't conclude that rush limbaugh or any other self entitled whack job would do a better job. I'm a firm follower of smaller government, less taxes. And getting back to why I originally posted that, it's because we're still playing the blame game, but when Obama is in the end of his first term or possibly his second term, and we're still in the same boat if not worse, whats it going to be then? Let's still blame bush or accept the fact that Obama is a joke? A couple of you already answered and said that they would change their opinion, and that is just what I wanted to hear.

Originally Posted by mcguin

who said anything about being partisan, I simply am disagreeing with OBAMA's approach to "fixing" the country. For the record, I am a fiscal conservative. I am moderate with other issues as well. I don't align myself with the republican party, I jumped ship while Bush was doing his thing. The republican party of today isn't the same republican party is used to be. I'm simply stating that I don't feel that what Obama is doing will change things for the good at all, but my argument doesn't conclude that rush limbaugh or any other self entitled whack job would do a better job. I'm a firm follower of smaller government, less taxes. And getting back to why I originally posted that, it's because we're still playing the blame game, but when Obama is in the end of his first term or possibly his second term, and we're still in the same boat if not worse, whats it going to be then? Let's still blame bush or accept the fact that Obama is a joke? A couple of you already answered and said that they would change their opinion, and that is just what I wanted to hear.

Seems we are of the same thought process. I guess I mistakenly remember you being very pro Bush. I don't see anything wrong with being against Obama's policies, I am against a chunk of them. But, I am willing to wait and see what happens rather than pass judgment now on what will happen in 3 years.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Seems we are of the same thought process. I guess I mistakenly remember you being very pro Bush. I don't see anything wrong with being against Obama's policies, I am against a chunk of them. But, I am willing to wait and see what happens rather than pass judgment now on what will happen in 3 years.

At one point I was pro bush, and I may have stated that in previous posts, but over time after doing my own research and questioning what was going on during his administration I had to do some soul searching and came to the realization that the party which I used to stand up for at any opportunity really isnt who i thought it was. I hate to call myself independent, but I'm conservative with most issues. Where I part ways from the typical party line of the pubs are the moral issues we face including gay marriage and religion issues. While I may oppose Obama and be a huge Obama basher, I won't say to anyone that Bush was the man and he was true to his word, he was anything but a true conservative. And for the benefit of the doubt, I hope to god that things getter better while Obama is in office, at the end of his term I hope to be having this same conversation and see where we're at.

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Originally Posted by Robert D.

he's only been in office 9 months, I don't understand why we stood back and watched GWB fuck everything up for 8 solid years now we think Obama is going to turn it around in 1 year?

This.

There are a LOT of things that need to be fixed. Give the man a break.

Originally Posted by mcguin

At one point I was pro bush, and I may have stated that in previous posts, but over time after doing my own research and questioning what was going on during his administration I had to do some soul searching and came to the realization that the party which I used to stand up for at any opportunity really isnt who i thought it was. I hate to call myself independent, but I'm conservative with most issues. Where I part ways from the typical party line of the pubs are the moral issues we face including gay marriage and religion issues. While I may oppose Obama and be a huge Obama basher, I won't say to anyone that Bush was the man and he was true to his word, he was anything but a true conservative. And for the benefit of the doubt, I hope to god that things getter better while Obama is in office, at the end of his term I hope to be having this same conversation and see where we're at.

True, the problem is, the Republican party sees people losing faith in Obama and think that's a mandate to go further right. It's not, the Sarah Palins of the world and the people she speaks for only serve to hurt the party. But they are the squeaky wheel and the GOP has been greasing them. Why the GOP panders to this group blows my mind. Do you really think any Palin supporter is ever going to vote for a democrat? So why pander to a group that you own and has very little voting power because they will only vote for you? Plus, the Republican party is no longer about small gov't, they only use that when they try to quash what the dems do. Honestly, lower taxes, smaller gov't, who wouldn't love that. Gov't should only get involved when an issue greatly impacts the country and the people are being taken advantage of, case in point the healthcare system. It is obvious those guys are gouging people, and once their antitrust exemption is tossed out, we will see some real regulation. I don't want free healthcare to all, but that doesn't mean I don't want people to be able to purchase health insurance at an affordable price regardless of past conditions. That is something I think teh gvo't needs to get involved with, we don't need the federal gov't dictating things like who can get married, that should be a state issue.

Ok, here is a problem I see with things.

Those who voted for and elected Obama got caught up in the hoopla a bit too much. I think I could even include myself in this. Too many people on the more liberal side viewed him as a messiah; he could solve all our problems. When the election was over, and he came into office, they went back into their normal routine, assuming everything would be peachy.

Those on the right now, are also acting as if he's kind of a messiah; or more so, that if he WAS supposed to be so fantastic, why hasn't he fixed all these problems already? They are using his own image and popularity against him. It's a dangerous game because usually you do not outright attack a newly-elected president so vehemently in office. Why? Because if things do really start to turn around, we get out of the recession, create jobs, Af-Pak shapes up better..then you look foolish for calling for his head so vigorously and early.

Originally Posted by KelJu

No it wasn't. His rating is bad, because he always made bad decisions.

so you're saying his approval rating of 86% at the time isn't a skew? Everyone loved him right after 9/11. The hatred followed.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

It started with 9/11, the 7 years of horrible decision making and ludicrous spending drove it where it is. That's probably what is driving Obama down, it seems peeps are becoming more and more aware that we are going to have to pay this shit back eventually. Rather than take the money that is coming in from companies paying back the bailout to pay back our debt, we are spending it elsewhere. The spending has to stop at some point, or at least slow down.

You do realize Obama has more than tripled Bush's spending? People get all pissed that Bush spent out of control (and he did) but then accept it when Obama comes along and accelerates that spending to astronomical levels

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

You do realize Obama has more than tripled Bush's spending? People get all pissed that Bush spent out of control (and he did) but then accept it when Obama comes along and accelerates that spending to astronomical levels

Source? Obama's is spending more and wants to spend more, but I think you're exaggerating. Let's not forget the Medicare expansion that bush signed into law

In either case, the president can only spend what Congress approves
Congress deserves a lot of that blame.

My approval: Highest on record

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