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    Budget Freeze Is Proposed
    White House Plan Applies to Only 17% of Spending; Small Impact on Deficit
    By LAURA MECKLER And JONATHAN WEISMAN

    WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama intends to propose a three-year freeze in spending that accounts for one-sixth of the federal budget—a move meant to quell rising concern over the deficit but whose practical impact will be muted.

    To attack the $1.4 trillion deficit, the White House will propose limits on discretionary spending unrelated to the military, veterans, homeland security and international affairs, according to senior administration officials. Also untouched are big entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare.

    Watch footage of President Barack Obama addressing a meeting of the Middle-Class Task Force, headed by Vice President Joe Biden. Video courtesy of Fox Business Network.

    The freeze would affect $447 billion in spending, or 17% of the total federal budget, and would likely be overtaken by growth in the untouched areas of discretionary spending. It's designed to save $250 billion over the coming decade, compared with what would have been spent had this area been allowed to rise along with inflation.

    The administration officials said the cap won't be imposed across the board. Some areas would see cuts while others, including education and investments related to job creation, would realize increases.

    Among the areas that may be potentially subject to cuts: The departments of Housing and Urban Development, Justice, Energy, Transportation, Agriculture, and Health and Human Services.

    President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden at a meeting of the Middle Class Task Force on Monday.

    "We're not here to tell you we've solved the deficit, but you have to take steps to put spending under control," a senior administration official said.

    The spending freeze, which is expected to be included in Wednesday's State of the Union address and the president's Feb. 1 budget proposal, is one of a series of small-scale initiatives the White House is unrolling as the president adjusts to a more hostile political terrain in his second year. On Monday, the president unveiled a set of proposals aimed at making child care, college and elder care more affordable.

    "Given Washington Democrats' unprecedented spending binge, this is like announcing you're going on a diet after winning a pie-eating contest," said Michael Steel, spokesman for House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R., Ohio). "Will the budget still double the debt over five years and triple it over 10? That's the bottom line."

    Ahead of this week's State of the Union address, President Barack Obama proposes some modest initiatives designed to help the middle class. Plus, existing-home sales plunge in December; and Simon Constable asks, how many Facebook friends are too many?

    Responding to criticism, administration officials acknowledged the freeze is directed at only a small part of overall spending, but that fiscal discipline has to start somewhere. President Obama had requested a 7.3% increase last year in the areas he now seeks to freeze. White House officials said they had achieved 60% of the $11.5 billion in cuts outlined in the budget for the current fiscal year.

    Mr. Obama will also propose the creation of a deficit commission to look for potential solutions for the medium- and long-term deficit—a move to garner bipartisan support for what may be unpopular tax increases and spending cuts. A bipartisan group of senators has been trying to get such a commission passed into law in a way that would give teeth to its recommendations. The recommendations of any presidential panel would require congressional approval.

    The budget proposal will be welcomed in some quarters. On Monday, four members of the Democratic Party's Blue Dog caucus, which favors fiscal discipline, wrote to Mr. Obama suggesting he implement a freeze much like the one he plans. "More will need to be done to get our fiscal house in order, but we believe this freeze in non-defense related discretionary spending is a good place to begin," they wrote.

    John Makin, an economist at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, called the effort "certainly a step in the right direction." He said the amount saved isn't large, but noted that he preferred this approach over raising taxes. "I'm not going to belittle it because it's not a big cut in spending."

    A year after the White House rolled out ambitious initiatives on health care and energy, in addition to a giant economic stimulus plan, the president is in some respects taking smaller steps. That's partly because much of the 2009 agenda remains undone. Also, in an election year, members of Congress are typically reluctant to take on controversial proposals.

    But the president said Monday that he remains committed to tackling health care and other big problems. "I'd rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president," he told ABC News.

    He faces tough dynamics. Mr. Obama and his party are bracing for losses in this fall's election amid fallen approval ratings and after a damaging loss in a Massachusetts special Senate election. The president has already shifted to a more populist tone aimed at convincing independent voters in particular that he is on their side.

    "We're going to keep fighting to rebuild our economy so that hard work is once again rewarded, wages and incomes are once again rising, and the middle class is once again growing," Mr. Obama said in unveiling his new proposals Monday.

    That message will likely be broadcast on Wednesday, when Mr. Obama delivers his State of the Union address to Congress. Aides say he'll use the domestic-policy section to focus on jobs, the budget deficit and ways to reform the way Washington works.

    The big-ticket legislative items from last year may wind up on the back burner. The president has suggested Congress might significantly scale back its health-care legislation after the party lost its 60-vote Senate super-majority.

    And on energy, following last year's proposal to fight global warming by requiring companies pay for the right to emit greenhouse gases, Democrats concede it is more likely that Congress will approve a scaled-back bill with subsidies and more modest rules.

    White House officials say they will continue to push their 2009 goals. "We are not trimming the sails on the major policy initiatives, but we are at a different stage where the focus is on moving forward [on existing initiatives] not announcing a new policy," said one White House adviser.

    Many Republicans argue Mr. Obama tried to do too much. "In my view, the president struggled in his first year not only because his agenda veered too far left, but because he took too many big bites out of too many apples and tried to swallow them all at once," Sen. Lamar Alexander (R., Tenn.) said on the Senate floor Monday.

    On Monday, the president and Vice President Joe Biden announced a handful of modest proposals aimed at supporting middle-class families, the result, they said, of a task force led by Mr. Biden. They said the budget will include an additional $1.6 billion for low-income child-care subsidies, and that they would ask Congress to sweeten a child-care tax credit with more generous help for families earning up to $115,000.

    Administration officials wouldn't say how much the extra tax breaks would cost, or how they would pay for them. The plan also includes new limits for people repaying student loans, capping repayments at 10% of discretionary income, at a cost of $7.5 billion over 10 years, and $102.5 million for help with elder care.

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    Great, but that's not what's killing us.

    Military spending, healthcare, social security. Focus on those 3. Keep your eye on the ball son.
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    What a few cuts to education. most can speak engish anyway..

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzik17 View Post
    Great, but that's not what's killing us.

    Military spending, healthcare, social security. Focus on those 3. Keep your eye on the ball son.
    I'll add Medicare.

    This "freeze" in spending would have been a good idea - 30 years ago.

    Freeze or no Freeze, spending will increase as Baby Boomers hit the Social Security rolls (they started on Jan 1, 2008) and Medicare (will hit the rolls on Jan 1. 2011), next year.

    The Sh*t Will Hit the Fan, as this age demographic enters the "apple shape phase."
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    Yeah, let's put a freeze on spending AFTER spending a couple TRILLION dollars. That'll fix everything.

    This is nothing but political grandstanding. This asshole knows he's in deep shit along with all of his cronies. All they're trying to do now is put a bandaid on the problem so come November elections they can point to it and say, "See, I'm trying to fix this problem."

    Bunch of worthless pieces of shit.
    Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
    Yeah, let's put a freeze on spending AFTER spending a couple TRILLION dollars. That'll fix everything.
    Heh, it's like maxing out a few credit cards then saying you won't buy any more stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
    Yeah, let's put a freeze on spending AFTER spending a couple TRILLION dollars. That'll fix everything.

    This is nothing but political grandstanding. This asshole knows he's in deep shit along with all of his cronies. All they're trying to do now is put a bandaid on the problem so come November elections they can point to it and say, "See, I'm trying to fix this problem."

    Bunch of worthless pieces of shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
    This is nothing but political grandstanding. This asshole knows he's in deep shit along with all of his cronies. All they're trying to do now is put a bandaid on the problem so come November elections they can point to it and say, "See, I'm trying to fix this problem."
    Bingo.

    He, and his party, got their asses handed to them in Massachusetts. Now he's got to deflect, and throw up some smoke, so he's doing crap like that. He's also going after the bankers again so that he look tough or something.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
    to improve their lives.

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    Please, none of them, dem or republican, plan on cutting spending, this isn't a partisan issue, it's an asshole politician issue. Tell me what the Republicans are going to cut...Welfare? That's like 6% of the budget. What are the dems willing to cut? Not Medicare or SS. The only thing that would make a major impact is cutting defense, and that ain't gonna happen with all of the wars we get to fight.

    The Dems wasted an inordinate amount of time on healthcare, while the people are worried about the economy. the Republicans latched on to this, and they will use it to gain some momentum without providing any real substance as to what they are going to do. It's the circle of life in politics.
    If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
    Please, none of them, dem or republican, plan on cutting spending, this isn't a partisan issue, it's an asshole politician issue. Tell me what the Republicans are going to cut...Welfare? That's like 6% of the budget. What are the dems willing to cut? Not Medicare or SS. The only thing that would make a major impact is cutting defense, and that ain't gonna happen with all of the wars we get to fight.

    The Dems wasted an inordinate amount of time on healthcare, while the people are worried about the economy. the Republicans latched on to this, and they will use it to gain some momentum without providing any real substance as to what they are going to do. It's the circle of life in politics.
    but true
    Quote Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
    Here is what you need to worry about. Eat, Lift, Rest. Repeat.
    This should be really simple, stop over complicating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
    Please, none of them, dem or republican, plan on cutting spending, this isn't a partisan issue, it's an asshole politician issue. Tell me what the Republicans are going to cut...Welfare? That's like 6% of the budget. What are the dems willing to cut? Not Medicare or SS. The only thing that would make a major impact is cutting defense, and that ain't gonna happen with all of the wars we get to fight.

    The Dems wasted an inordinate amount of time on healthcare, while the people are worried about the economy. the Republicans latched on to this, and they will use it to gain some momentum without providing any real substance as to what they are going to do. It's the circle of life in politics.


    Woah there Big Boy, you and I are on the same page. The only individual I singled out was Obummer because he was the one to make the announcement. Other than that we're in complete agreement, BOTH parties suck right now.
    Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
    Woah there Big Boy, you and I are on the same page. The only individual I singled out was Obummer because he was the one to make the announcement. Other than that we're in complete agreement, BOTH parties suck right now.
    You obviously know that, you've been around since the beginning of time...You probably developed the 2 party system we have during the paleolithic era.
    If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
    BOTH parties suck right now.
    Right now?

    Haven't they always?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
    You obviously know that, you've been around since the beginning of time...You probably developed the 2 party system we have during the paleolithic era.
    Albob created the Oligarchoi party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
    You obviously know that, you've been around since the beginning of time...You probably developed the 2 party system we have during the paleolithic era.
    And the two-party system is a monopoly basically.

    Yes, Monopoly.

    Because the 2 parties, in many way, are actually 1.

    And they collude with one another.

    3rd party are structurally excluded from ever having a real chance.
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