Toyota recalls total 8.1 million vehicles

**Prince** · 02-04-2010, 10:23 AM

Toyota recalls total 8.1 million vehicles

by Peter Valdes-Dapena, senior writerFebruary 4, 2010: 10:03 AM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The total number of vehicles Toyota Motor Corp. has had to recall for gas-pedal related issues now comes to 8.1 million, the carmaker confirmed Thursday.

That figure may grow after the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced Thursday that it is launching a formal investigation into braking problems in the popular Toyota Prius.

The 8.1 million figure includes a total of 5.8 million vehicles recalled, around the world, for an issue in which accelerator pedals could become stuck in floor mats. Of those, 5.3 million are being recalled in the United States.

A total of 4.5 million vehicles, worldwide, are being recalled for a problem in which gas pedals, as they wear, can become sticky and not come all the way back up when the driver takes his foot off the pedal. Of those, 2.3 million are under recall in the U.S.

A total of 2.1 million vehicles around the world are subject to both recalls.
In addition to the United States, the recalls are also occurring in Europe and Asia.

Toyota officials estimate the total cost of the global recall could be as much as $2 billion, including the loss of 100,000 vehicle sales in the United States and Europe.

The figures do not include the Toyota Prius, which is currently not subject to a recall but is under formal investigation by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. This follows complaints of faulty braking by consumers and an admission by the company that cars produced early in the 2010 model year had a software problem that caused poor brake performance.

**bigpapabuff** · 02-04-2010, 05:39 PM

very good news for American car makers.

**lnvanry** · 02-04-2010, 09:02 PM

This is Ford and GM's chance to get back in the game full force.

What more can they ask for? Production AND sales are frozen on the models

**min0 lee** · 02-04-2010, 09:15 PM

Can anyone here remember back in the 80's when Audi had that tranny problem?
It almost killed off the 5000 series.

Some Context: Audi's "Unintended Acceleration"
In 1986, the television program 60 Minutes started Audi's "unintended acceleration" scandal. The show trotted out tearful people, recounted death and carnage, spoke to so-called experts, and generally made it seem like the vehicle in question, the Audi 5000, was a roving menace with a mind of its own. In the end, the U.S. government determined that every single so-called unintended acceleration accident was the result of driver error. Some speculated that because Audi's pedals were closer together than those of some other brands, people were too uncoordinated to choose the correct one. The pedal-placement issue Audi faced at that time parallels the throttle-kill issue Toyota faces now

They were great cars to drive but when this came out no one wanted to buy them.

**T_man** · 02-05-2010, 06:46 AM

Sounds like the government had a close "friendship" with Audi.

**maniclion** · 02-05-2010, 01:06 PM

I've had several cars that if I wasn't careful the floor mat would bunch up under the gas pedal you just had to be mindful and pull it back. Now my BMW has hooks for the mat, my Altima had heavy-duty velcro, I thought that was standard procedure in new cars but I guess not.... What now are cops going to pull you over for not using floormat restraints?

**min0 lee** · 02-05-2010, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

I've had several cars that if I wasn't careful the floor mat would bunch up under the gas pedal you just had to be mindful and pull it back. Now my BMW has hooks for the mat, my Altima had heavy-duty velcro, I thought that was standard procedure in new cars but I guess not.... What now are cops going to pull you over for not using floormat restraints?

That wasn't the cause of it, they blamed it on the mats but they later found out it's mechanical.

I was just at enterprise and that place is crowded with customers returning their cars.

**DOMS** · 02-05-2010, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

That wasn't the cause of it, they blamed it on the mats but they later found out it's mechanical.

I was just at enterprise and that place is crowded with customers returning their cars.

Pussies. If I were renting a car, I specifically ask for one of the defective cars.

Transportation and gambling, both for the price of one.

I mean it, I'd seriously do it.

**maniclion** · 02-05-2010, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

Pussies. If I were renting a car, I specifically ask for one of the defective cars.

Transportation and gambling, both for the price of one.

I mean it, I'd seriously do it.

I would pull up outside of someplace or persons home that pissed me off and gun it right through the front door then blame it on the car....

**clemson357** · 02-05-2010, 06:54 PM

I'd still buy a Toyota that I knew for a fact had been recalled before I would buy a GM.

I have a 6 year old Toyota, that thing is a fucking tank; I fully expect to be driving it at least 12 years. Most Toyotas and Hondas are built in the South. Anything built in the American North is made with sloppy, lazy, greedy Union labor. The cost to build a car in Detroit after you factor in benefits and 7 weeks of paid vacation is $72/hour just for labor, THEN you have to take on material costs and other overhead, and this for a job that can be peformed by a paraplegic illiterate mongolian.

**min0 lee** · 02-05-2010, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by clemson357

I'd still buy a Toyota that I knew for a fact had been recalled before I would buy a GM.

I have a 6 year old Toyota, that thing is a fucking tank; I fully expect to be driving it at least 12 years. Most Toyotas and Hondas are built in the South. Anything built in the American North is made with sloppy, lazy, greedy Union labor. The cost to build a car in Detroit after you factor in benefits and 7 weeks of paid vacation is $72/hour just for labor, THEN you have to take on material costs and other overhead, and this for a job that can be peformed by a paraplegic illiterate mongolian.

That's with all the health benefits, dental, eye..... that's not what they take home.
Let's be fare dude.

**min0 lee** · 02-05-2010, 07:15 PM

I have an American made Ford with 170.000 miles baby, it's a 2002 and still going strong.
Your a commie.

Our Dodge was rear ended by a Pilot 2 weeks ago, the Pilot was totaled.....the Dodge still drives.
I would rather have a German car if I were to buy a foreign car.

**lnvanry** · 02-05-2010, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

I have an American made Ford with 170.000 miles baby, it's a 2002 and still going strong.
Your a commie.

Our Dodge was rear ended by a Pilot 2 weeks ago, the Pilot was totaled.....the Dodge still drives.
I would rather have a German car if I were to buy a foreign car.

ditto, I have a Ford truck with over 200k from 1999...keeps on moving with no break downs

**min0 lee** · 02-05-2010, 09:01 PM

I really do think we improved in our car making quality.
Upper management finally came to their senses and realized they have to make quality cars in order to get repeat customers.
You can blame the unions but management had a huge hand in this mess.

**KelJu** · 02-05-2010, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by clemson357

I'd still buy a Toyota that I knew for a fact had been recalled before I would buy a GM.

I have a 6 year old Toyota, that thing is a fucking tank; I fully expect to be driving it at least 12 years. Most Toyotas and Hondas are built in the South. Anything built in the American North is made with sloppy, lazy, greedy Union labor. The cost to build a car in Detroit after you factor in benefits and 7 weeks of paid vacation is $72/hour just for labor, THEN you have to take on material costs and other overhead, and this for a job that can be peformed by a paraplegic illiterate mongolian.

Yep, I also would still buy a Toyota over GM.

**min0 lee** · 02-08-2010, 01:38 PM

Toyota will announce recall of 300,000 Prius hybrids in U.S., Japan due to faulty brake system

Read more: Toyota will announce recall of 300,000 Prius hybrids in U.S., Japan due to faulty brake system

**min0 lee** · 02-08-2010, 01:39 PM

There is no stopping them now.

**Prince** · 02-08-2010, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Toyota will announce recall of 300,000 Prius hybrids in U.S., Japan due to faulty brake system

Read more: Toyota will announce recall of 300,000 Prius hybrids in U.S., Japan due to faulty brake system

**DOMS** · 02-08-2010, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Robert

I sick to death of this! Every part of the American business system is being sent to other countries!

They're even taking our shitting craftsmanship!

**min0 lee** · 02-08-2010, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

I sick to death of this! Every part of the American business system is being sent to other countries!

They're even taking our shitting craftsmanship!

There was a time we made quality products.

**DOMS** · 02-08-2010, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

There was a time we made quality products.

We still do. The idea that America only makes crap products is a fallacy.

I was just being factitious.

**maniclion** · 02-08-2010, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by DOMS

The idea that America only makes crap products is a fallacy.

Yeah, China easily holds that title....

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