Hope and change afterall?

**GearsMcGilf** · 02-09-2010, 03:32 PM

FOXNews.com - Senate Rejects Obama's Labor Board Nominee

Great news! Yet another failure for the Hope and Change Admin. I hope he stays on this streak so we can have another 1994 style red revolution this year and take back the WH in 2012!!!!!

**Dark Geared God** · 02-09-2010, 03:34 PM

Amen GoD,guns and ammo...

**twarrior** · 02-09-2010, 05:24 PM

Elections to the United States Senate will be held on November 2, 2010, for 36 of the 100 seats in the United States Senate at which time a new Democratic Seal will be chosen.

**Dark Geared God** · 02-09-2010, 06:35 PM

yep its all over in november

**min0 lee** · 02-09-2010, 06:39 PM

Hate to burst your bubble but the only person who can get us out of this rut has to be resurrected.
No Democrat nor anyone in the GOP can do any better.

**Dark Geared God** · 02-09-2010, 06:40 PM

If you want change i have 2 rolls of quarters in my pocket....lol

**min0 lee** · 02-09-2010, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Situation

If you want change i have 2 rolls of quarters in my pocket....lol

....and you'll be taxed for that.

**Dark Geared God** · 02-09-2010, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

....and you'll be taxed for that.

Already have and i'm sure i'll be taxed again

**GearsMcGilf** · 02-09-2010, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by The Situation

If you want change i have 2 rolls of quarters in my pocket....lol

I hope you're keeping one of them under your matress.

**Dark Geared God** · 02-09-2010, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Roids1

I hope you're keeping one of them under your matress.

Right next to my stack of evil one hundred dollar bills all repubs have under there matress

**Big Smoothy** · 02-09-2010, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Roids1

FOXNews.com - Senate Rejects Obama's Labor Board Nominee

Great news! Yet another failure for the Hope and Change Admin. I hope he stays on this streak so we can have another 1994 style red revolution this year and take back the WH in 2012!!!!!

There has been mention of a 1994 type of change.

One factor is similiar; one factor is different.

Similar:

Opposition by more and more voters to Obama's policies and the Dem on Congress. Similar to 1994.

Different:

No platform, nor contract, no solid message from the GOP.

Except for "cutting spending," the GOP doesn't have a clear and succinct message like Gingrich's Contract with America. The GOP is severely fractured.

**GearsMcGilf** · 02-09-2010, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

There has been mention of a 1994 type of change.

One factor is similiar; one factor is different.

Similar:

Opposition by more and more voters to Obama's policies and the Dem on Congress. Similar to 1994.

Different:

No platform, nor contract, no solid message from the GOP.

Except for "cutting spending," the GOP doesn't have a clear and succinct message like Gingrich's Contract with America. The GOP is severely fractured.

True. But, a cut in spending, as small and insignificant as it would likely be, would still be a step in the right direction. It doesn't seem like we could do much worse than what we're dealing with now. An unsustainable 3.8 trillion dollar budget, 40% of which is going to come from borrowed funds is some scary shit.

Perhaps if we had a similar revolution, Obama would take a page out of the Clinton playbook and use some of the repubs' ideas and take credit for it if it seemed to be working. Who knows. Someone new from the republican party, like Newt, might just surface and show real leadership.

**Dark Geared God** · 02-09-2010, 09:09 PM

lower taxes across the board always will

make the people spend..

**Big Smoothy** · 02-09-2010, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Roids1

True. But, a cut in spending, as small and insignificant as it would likely be, would still be a step in the right direction. It doesn't seem like we could do much worse than what we're dealing with now. An unsustainable 3.8 trillion dollar budget, 40% of which is going to come from borrowed funds is some scary shit.

Agreed. A cut in spending is necessary. And I mean cutting Social Security as well. It's actual in the hole today, 27 years before being projected to be.

Medicare. I don't have answers, but Medicare is and will be worse than Social Security.

77 million baby boomers from from 1946 to 1964: SS for them started on Ja 1, 2008. Medicare will start for them on Jan 1, 2011.

Perhaps if we had a similar revolution, Obama would take a page out of the Clinton playbook and use some of the repubs' ideas and take credit for it if it seemed to be working. Who knows. Someone new from the republican party, like Newt, might just surface and show real leadership.

I think he'll have to change.

Newt Gingrich is a sharp guy and I like hims, but his comments on Medicare in the 1990s may or may not stick with him.

Clinton's playbook after 1994 was good and it worked: Triangulation.

Dick Morris got it going, and it worked for Clinton very well.

**GearsMcGilf** · 02-10-2010, 07:46 AM

Right, triangulation. I loved it when John Kerry attempted it in 2004 with "I actually did vote for the 87 Billion before I voted against it."

**DaMayor** · 02-10-2010, 07:57 AM

Budget? Spending Cuts? Nahhh.......JUST PRINT MORE MONEY!

In these times, I have become quite the fan of stuffing the mattress.

**DOMS** · 02-10-2010, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by Roids1

FOXNews.com - Senate Rejects Obama's Labor Board Nominee

Great news! Yet another failure for the Hope and Change Admin. I hope he stays on this streak so we can have another 1994 style red revolution this year and take back the WH in 2012!!!!!

I take back what I said yesterday about not hoping that Obama fails. I hope he fails the fuck all over the place.

Then maybe, just maybe, the majority of Americans will want real change.

By real change I mean:

creating a truly balanced budget
making the tough cuts to make the budget balance
stop giving aid to other countries
wrap up the wars in the Middle East
closing off our borders
expunging every last illegal in this country

I can hope...

**GearsMcGilf** · 02-10-2010, 07:59 AM

Budget? Spending Cuts? Nahhh.......JUST PRINT MORE MONEY!

In these times, I have become quite the fan of stuffing the mattress.

I've tried that, but it doesn't really help me sleep. I usually just throw a coupla extra blankets on it to make it softer.

Yes, I hope he fails also. If he fails we might get closer to a balanced budget, no more runaway spending, no govt healthcare, no civilian trials for foreign terrorists, and many other advantages that come with him not ramming his agenda down our throat.

Fortunately, it looks as if he's going to be a far bigger failure than even GWB could've hoped to be.

**ALBOB** · 02-10-2010, 08:13 AM

Could we get some clarification please? I'm hearing a whole lot of people in a whole lot of places saying they want Obama to fail or they don't want him to fail. For clarification, could we please say, "I hope Obama fails in his attempts to enact his current policies"? It's the policies he's trying to put in place that we're really against, right?

Because to make the blanket statement that you hope HE fails means you hope the President of the United States fails and that would mean the entire country would fail. Yes, I realize it's a semantics issue but, it's an important semantics issue in my mine.

**DaMayor** · 02-10-2010, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Could we get some clarification please? I'm hearing a whole lot of people in a whole lot of places saying they want Obama to fail or they don't want him to fail. For clarification, could we please say, "I hope Obama fails in his attempts to enact his current policies"? It's the policies he's trying to put in place that we're really against, right?

Because to make the blanket statement that you hope HE fails means you hope the President of the United States fails and that would mean the entire country would fail. Yes, I realize it's a semantics issue but, it's an important semantics issue in my mine.

You have a mine? Gold?

Good point. I don't think anyone wants the President of the United States to fail. I think people really miss, and are seeking, a President with true grit, not a political cardboard character.....one who is not afraid to call things like they are, set aside/castigate all political B.S. and work for the betterment of this country. Until then, enjoy the politics show.

**maniclion** · 02-10-2010, 11:53 AM

"It's gonna be the age of humankind...
standing up for something pure and something right!
What a bunch of garbage-- liberal Democrat conservative Republican.
It's all there to control you. Two sides of the same coin.
Two management teams bidding for control!
The C.E.O. job of Slavery, Incorporated!
The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies!
I'm sick of it, and I'm not gonna take a bite out of it! Do you got me?
Resistance is not futile. We're gonna win this thing.
Humankind is too good! We're not a bunch of underachievers!
We're gonna stand up and we're gonna be human beings!
We're gonna get fired up about the real things, the things that matter:
creativity and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit!
Well, that's it! That's all I got to say! It's in your court."

**GearsMcGilf** · 02-10-2010, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by ALBOB

It's the policies he's trying to put in place that we're really against, right?

Because to make the blanket statement that you hope HE fails means you hope the President of the United States fails and that would mean the entire country would fail. Yes, I realize it's a semantics issue but, it's an important semantics issue in my mine.

Okay, I hope he fails to enact his shitty socialist policies and he goes back to his community organizing and his biggoted church in three years. Incidentally, his wife is also an angry black bitch with a gigantic chip on her shoulder. I bet the puppy he got for his daughters is just as bitter about having another female dog in the house.

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