Thread: Olbermann - Iran Abandoned Nukes in 2003?

Kieth is TV pundit like Oreilly...I wouldn't pay too much attention to his words

A possible thread, folks, is if there will be a strike by Israel on Iran. I doubt it, because I don't think Israel could finish the job, and the US won't get involved. (Even GWB said "no" to the Israeli request for assistance in a surgical strike on nuke facilities.)

The American Jewish Zionists have been ratcheting up the rhetoric for a few years now. NY Times even printed a false translation of Ahmadinejad's comment - that he never made - of "wiping Israel off of the map" and it was repeating in many newspaper via AP, and on TV.

Research "Operation Ajax" in 1953.

Ahmadinajad is not even the leader of Iran and has no control over the military nor foreign affairs.

The Mainstream media is bullshitting us, again.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

A possible thread, folks, is if there will be a strike by Israel on Iran. I doubt it, because I don't think Israel could finish the job, and the US won't get involved. (Even GWB said "no" to the Israeli request for assistance in a surgical strike on nuke facilities.)

The American Jewish Zionists have been ratcheting up the rhetoric for a few years now. NY Times even printed a false translation of Ahmadinejad's comment - that he never made - of "wiping Israel off of the map" and it was repeating in many newspaper via AP, and on TV.

Research "Operation Ajax" in 1953.

Ahmadinajad is not even the leader of Iran and has no control over the military nor foreign affairs.

The Mainstream media is bullshitting us, again.

Pretty sure Israel could carry out a surgical strike on Iran with exactly fuck all problems until the political shitstorm that would follow it. The assertion to the contrary demonstrates a loose grasp of the facts in relation to Israels military capabilities.

From the thinly veiled anti-semitism in your post I assume you believe that the Israelis are the 'warmongers' in the Middle East?

Actually scratch that question, from the Israeli flag with the swastika in it I can see that you're just a fuckin' idiot. I've got no interest in what you think.

Originally Posted by Vance

Pretty sure Israel could carry out a surgical strike on Iran with exactly fuck all problems until the political shitstorm that would follow it. The assertion to the contrary demonstrates a loose grasp of the facts in relation to Israels military capabilities.

I researched this, some time ago.

Israel needs US help with certain Intell. If Israel does it alone, I don't think they can finish the job.

From the thinly veiled anti-semitism in your post I assume you believe that the Israelis are the 'warmongers' in the Middle East?

Note: Most Jews in Israel are NOT semitic. The Palistinians and other Levantine Arabs are Semitic.

Actually scratch that question, from the Israeli flag with the swastika in it I can see that you're just a fuckin' idiot. I've got no interest in what you think.

I have been researching Zionism, AIPAC, Foxman, Finklestein, and Derschowitz for a few years.

Zionism is related to Judaism, but at times they are separate.

Israel is a nation-state. My signature represents the actions of that nation-state.

Here is an interesting piece. Please do *not* focus on the person in the beginning - focus on Joel Stein.

Marlon Brando on Jews in Hollywood on the Larry King Show.

Remember the fiery response this statement?

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

A possible thread, folks, is if there will be a strike by Israel on Iran. I doubt it, because I don't think Israel could finish the job, and the US won't get involved. (Even GWB said "no" to the Israeli request for assistance in a surgical strike on nuke facilities.)

The American Jewish Zionists have been ratcheting up the rhetoric for a few years now. NY Times even printed a false translation of Ahmadinejad's comment - that he never made - of "wiping Israel off of the map" and it was repeating in many newspaper via AP, and on TV.

Research "Operation Ajax" in 1953.

Ahmadinajad is not even the leader of Iran and has no control over the military nor foreign affairs.

The Mainstream media is bullshitting us, again.

u bet ya hitler

Originally Posted by The Situation

u bet ya hitler

The Iran hysteria and Operation Ajax, have nothing do with Adolph Hitler.

Nor does Iran, have anything to do with Adolph Hitler, who died in 1945.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

The Iran hysteria and Operation Ajax, have nothing do with Adolph Hitler.

Nor does Iran, have anything to do with Adolph Hitler, who died in 1945.

Nor does Israeal, which wasn't created until after Hilter died and the nazis were defeated in 1945. Yet you still have an Israeli flag with a swastika in it in your signature.

Will you Jews STFU already?

Originally Posted by Geared Jesus

The jews really do have double standards. For one, they were big players in the whole civil rights movement.

Many of the CR lawyers were of course, Jews. They fought to overthrow segregation here Yet, in Israel, they have segregated the palestinians.

The whole womens liberation movement was started up by the jews as well. Yet in their own religion, they see women as less than men, inferior and unequal.

No gentile is to be trusted, this is in there doctrine. There is an US and THEM mentality that all of them have. It makes no sense for them to want to help anyone with anything unless there is an underlying agenda which will benefit them.

Im not sure what the zionist agenda is in this country. There are some theories i wont share here. But its clear, there is a sinister side to it all.

As opposed to how Christians don't judge non-believers hey? Just the same as muslims don't judge non-muslims as being 'infidel'? Suppose those two major religions see men and women as equal too? Bollocks.

Get your hand off your cock and drink your coors light GJ.

& FYI there is no such thing as 'palestinians'. They are Syrians and Jordanians and they are living on land they lost in a war which they started. They were also the ones who proliferated the 'martyrdom' and suicide bombing strategies of the modern era.

So fuck them, if they don't like it there, move.

Originally Posted by Vance

As opposed to how Christians don't judge non-believers hey? Just the same as muslims don't judge non-muslims as being 'infidel'? Suppose those two major religions see men and women as equal too? Bollocks.

Get your hand off your cock and drink your coors light GJ.

& FYI there is no such thing as 'palestinians'. They are Syrians and Jordanians and they are living on land they lost in a war which they started. They were also the ones who proliferated the 'martyrdom' and suicide bombing strategies of the modern era.

So fuck them, if they don't like it there, move.

tren rage???

. .just saying dem

No tren rage knig.

GJ just put his face in front of a freight train.

Originally Posted by Vance

No tren rage knig.

GJ just put his face in front of a freight train.

those cheeky midget jew-hating puerto ricans better watch their step!

Originally Posted by Geared Jesus

Christians dont see women as equal? Show me some text from christian literature stating this. Are you merely stating your opinion or is this fact? It is a FACT what i am saying about the Orthodox Jewish people. It is a FACT that no Gentile is to be trusted. It is a FACT that they believe God created Gentiles to act as slaves for their bidding.

I know who the Palestinian people descended from, I dont need a history lesson. Its really neither here nor there. The fact is they systematically use genocide to eradicate their neighbors with American money. Dude youre a fuckin Aussie lol WTF. I grew up in NY. These people had their own police force (The JDL) that would break heads if you so much as had an argument with one of them.

Dont hand me that shit about proliferating Martyrdom and suicide bombings. Thats exaggerated Zionist Media spin to gain sympathy.

They sucked us into Iraq. Paul Wolfowitz was the mastermind of it all. Who do you know that served in Iraq and died? No one. Who do you know that was affected by 9/11? No one.

We were attacked because of our Zionist affiliations...Nay, our Zionist infiltration. From Defense to media...Its all them.

Terrosism? The Jews have executed countless terrorist attacks against their opposition. Mainstream media doesnt report on that obviously. Facts are facts. We support Jew terrorists and then became targets. Clear as day.

But youre right. They "won" the war which justifies stolen land. I guess we "won" by slaughtering the native population in America so this logic does make sense i suppose.

Mate, perhaps the 8% bodyfat you have left is between your ears but the fact of the matter is that white, european christians didn't even let women have a VOTE until the middle of last century. Then there is the tiny thing about women being the cause of original sin in the bible. It's a furphy for you to even argue the point that any religion is more progressive than another in relation to womens lib of all things, because it's horse shit - it's also a "FACT" that all the other major religions in the world have very similar laws about 'non-believers' not being trusted in them too. Judaism is absolutely no different.

You state it's a fact that the Israelis systematically erradicate their neighbours in the Middle East and simply bud this is utter bullshit. Point me in the direction of anyone who the Israeli's have wiped off the face of the map. And if you actually *didn't* need a history lesson you'd know that the Israeli's didn't start the 6 day war and if you knew ANYTHING about Middle Eastern politics you'd also know that if the Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians had won that particular war there wouldn't be any Israelis left to ask their feelings about it on Fox News. Israel has the capacity to glass the greater portion of the Middle East whenever they feel like it and they have been surrounded by enemies since their inception. I don't blame them for being testy when they spend every day surrounded by people who want to annihilate them.

As for your assertion that "I don't know anyone who fought and died in Iraq" - fuck you man, I was in the army, my brother was in Iraq, I have dozens of mates who are both British and Australian who have served there, and in a matter of fact I know 3 guys who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. So with all due respect get your facts straight. This isn't a pissing contest about who knows more squaddies though and your initial point is totally irrelevant.

As for 'we support jew terrorists so we become targets' - the US bankrolled Saddam, Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban to fight the soviets and then we when we turned on Saddam after Kuwait and had bases in the Holy Lands in Saudi Osama turned on the US and started attacking them. The 'jewish terrorists' had absolutely fuck all to do with it. We bankrolled a bunch of arabs against the soviets then went in with one bunch of arabs to bail out another bunch of arabs and the original bunch of arabs got pissed at the 'infidel' being in the holy land.

The 'jewish terrorists' made a point of NOT retaliating against the missile attacks against Israel in the gulf war because if they DID get involved the coalition would collapse and all the arab nations would refuse to fight with the US.

You say you don't need a history lesson champ, I'd agree with you, you need about 3 years of them.

Originally Posted by Vance

Nor does Israeal, which wasn't created until after Hilter died and the nazis were defeated in 1945. Yet you still have an Israeli flag with a swastika in it in your signature.

Your history, is incorrect.

Zionism began in earnest with Theodore Herzl around 1900.

The Balfour Declaration was penned in 1917.

Israel and Palestine were partitioned by the UN in the "Partiition of Palestine.

Israel became a nation-state in 1948.

Originally Posted by Geared Jesus

No gentile is to be trusted, this is in their doctrine.

And what do Jews call us, non-Jews?

"Goyim"

Translatin --> "cattle."

Read the Talmud, for more. It's bad.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

Israel became a nation-state in 1948.

So what I said was 100% accurate you fuckwit.

Originally Posted by Vance

So what I said was 100% accurate you fuckwit.

You quoted the post of mine stating a historical fact.

Israel became a nation-state in 1948.


Is this wrong, sir?

Your statement shows you don't know 1. the facts well, and 2. the reasons for the creation of the state of Israel.

Nor does Israeal, which wasn't created until after Hilter died and the nazis were defeated in 1945

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

And what do Jews call us, non-Jews?

"Goyim"

Translatin --> "cattle."

Read the Talmud, for more. It's bad.

And? I can think of about 200 worse things to call you off the top of my head. I call my friends worse names than this. The funniest thing about it is that clowns like you say things like the above like it's secret inside Jew conspiracy business and you get your info from a yiddish dictionary FFS. What's next? You gonna bring up how 911 has a bomb and the star of David in it if you type it in windings?

Lots of fucked up shit happened in the bible too FYI. I don't recall all Christians following it to the letter though. When was the last time the Jews launched a crusade mmm? Oh that's right never. The Jews as a race have spent more time occupied by other powers in history than everyone except maybe the French ffs. But I suppose they're just biding their time to take over right?

You sound like Borat dude - another jew in Sasha baron Cohen - he must be in on it too!!!

Now shut the fuck up.

Please watch this video:

Originally Posted by Vance

And? I can think of about 200 worse things to call you off the top of my head. I call my friends worse names than this.

We're having a discussion. No need to bad names, name calling, ad hominum attacks, slurs, or anger, or emotion.

The funniest thing about it is that clowns like you say things like the above like it's secret inside Jew conspiracy business

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I have never said there was a "conspiracy" about anything. I don't believe there is any "conspiracy."

and you get your info from a yiddish dictionary FFS. What's next?

Goyim is Yiddish, but the root of the word is "goy" which is Hebrew.

You gonna bring up how 911 has a bomb and the star of David in it if you type it in windings?

Nice try. No, I don't believe 911 had anything to do with Judaism, Jewish people, Zionism, Israel or the Mossad.

But I do think....after making such a comment you are.....(to use another Yiddish word.....a shill..

Lots of fucked up shit happened in the bible too FYI. I don't recall all Christians following it to the letter though. When was the last time the Jews launched a crusade mmm? Oh that's right never. The Jews as a race have spent more time occupied by other powers in history than everyone except maybe the French ffs. But I suppose they're just biding their time to take over right?

I've never discussed the Crusades, but you claim, that I claim, the Crusades "never" happened.

The Crusades did indeed happen. It's a historical fact.

And BTW, I am not Christian.

Now shut the fuck up.

Angry?

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

We're having a discussion. No need to bad names, name calling, ad hominum attacks, slurs, or anger, or emotion.


I have never said there was a "conspiracy" about anything. I don't believe there is any "conspiracy."


Goyim is Yiddish, but the root of the word is "goy" which is Hebrew.


Nice try. No, I don't believe 911 had anything to do with Judaism, Jewish people, Zionism, Israel or the Mossad.

But I do think....after making such a comment you are.....(to use another Yiddish word.....a shill..


I've never discussed the Crusades, but you claim, that I claim, the Crusades "never" happened.

The Crusades did indeed happen. It's a historical fact.

And BTW, I am not Christian.


Angry?

Your entire argument is based on slurs matey.

Your claim is that the zionists are engaged in an active conspiracy and I'm stating that, like I said, the jews have never occupied *anywhere* in history. They're the ones who have been occupied by other powers throughout history.

And when I say that I Israel wasn't created until after 1945 and you point out that Israel was created as a nation in 1948 what I said was entirely accurate. So either you cannot read or you the only way you can argue your so called case is by setting up straw man arguements and beating them.

Fact is the basis of your entire slew of ridiculous allegations thus far is backed up by two youtube videos from what cannot be called concrete sources on the subject matter, the misguided notion that Iran is a wonderful place full of happy peace loving people (Lets pretend like the rioting at the elections a little while ago didn't happen just for your sake) and that Israel is full of a bunch of hook nosed fascists who will not be happy until (For reasons you have yet failed to articulate) they wipe out every non-jew in the Middle East on their way to some global conquest in which they make all non-jews their slaves whom they will refer to them in a hebrew derived slur which translates into cattle.

One of my best American friends is a jew and now former marine who signed up to fight for his country post 911 who happened to get his legs blown off in a IED attack in Afghanistan.

Where were you champ? Too busy hating on jews at your keyboard? I'm not angry, I have nothing but pity and contempt for you.

This thread is incredibly entertaining. It completely pulled my interest away from the DC Metrorail crash that happened an hour ago.

Originally Posted by Vance

Your entire argument is based on slurs matey.

I do NOT use slurs. I do not believe in slurs.

Your claim is that the zionists are engaged in an active conspiracy

False: Again, I do NOT believe there is a conspiracy. I state that in my previous post. Please re-read it.

There is NO conspiracy.

and I'm stating that, like I said, the jews have never occupied *anywhere* in history. They're the ones who have been occupied by other powers throughout history.

False. There was never a Jewish state, until Israel.

Therefore, It was, and is, unable to occupy.

Fact is the basis of your entire slew of ridiculous allegations thus far is backed up by two youtube videos from what cannot be called concrete sources on the subject matter

Please provide sources. We are waiting.

the misguided notion that Iran is a wonderful place full of happy peace loving people (Lets pretend like the rioting at the elections a little while ago didn't happen just for your sake)

Where was this written or said? Please provide sources.

I cannot think or comment on Iran being a "wonderful place full of happy peace loving people."

I thin you are mixing the "people" with the "political leadership."

Please clarify.

I think Iran has many flaws in my opinion. Just my opinion.

and that Israel is full of a bunch of hook nosed fascists who will not be happy until (For reasons you have yet failed to articulate) they wipe out every non-jew in the Middle East on their way to some global conquest in which they make all non-jews their slaves whom they will refer to them in a hebrew derived slur which translates into cattle.

I have been to Israel. And I want to go back again. Possibly volunteer on a Kibbutz.

Please be careful not to mix politics, and lobbyists with common people.
It's no fair.

I've never met an Israeli who said or believed in the negative things you describe.

One of my best American friends is a jew and now former marine who signed up to fight for his country post 911 who happened to get his legs blown off in a IED attack in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan has nothing to do with Israel. Afghanistan is about natural gas in the "stans."

Where were you champ? Too busy hating on jews at your keyboard? I'm not angry, I have nothing but pity and contempt for you.

I don't hate Jews. I don't hate Muslims. I don't hate Christians. I don't hate Hindus. I don't hate Atheists. I don't hate Agnostics.

I LOVE all people and hope we can make this world a better place.

Originally Posted by Geared Jesus

Christians dont see women as equal? Show me some text from christian literature stating this. Are you merely stating your opinion or is this fact? It is a FACT what i am saying about the Orthodox Jewish people. It is a FACT that no Gentile is to be trusted. It is a FACT that they believe God created Gentiles to act as slaves for their bidding.

I know who the Palestinian people descended from, I dont need a history lesson. Its really neither here nor there. The fact is they systematically use genocide to eradicate their neighbors with American money. Dude youre a fuckin Aussie lol WTF. I grew up in NY. These people had their own police force (The JDL) that would break heads if you so much as had an argument with one of them.

Dont hand me that shit about proliferating Martyrdom and suicide bombings. Thats exaggerated Zionist Media spin to gain sympathy.

They sucked us into Iraq. Paul Wolfowitz was the mastermind of it all. Who do you know that served in Iraq and died? No one. Who do you know that was affected by 9/11? No one.

We were attacked because of our Zionist affiliations...Nay, our Zionist infiltration. From Defense to media...Its all them.

Terrorism? The Jews have executed countless terrorist attacks against their opposition. Mainstream media doesnt report on that obviously. Facts are facts. We support Jew terrorists and then became targets ourselves. Its Clear as day.

But youre right. They "won" the war which justifies stolen land. I guess we "won" by slaughtering the native population in America so this logic does make sense i suppose.

You are mistaken if you think the leadership in the DoD and defense manufacturing base is anything but WASPy

Originally Posted by Geared Jesus

Dont hand me that shit about proliferating Martyrdom and suicide bombings. Thats exaggerated Zionist Media spin to gain sympathy.....


They sucked us into Iraq. Paul Wolfowitz was the mastermind of it all. Who do you know that served in Iraq and died? No one. Who do you know that was affected by 9/11? No one.

Terrorism? The Jews have executed countless terrorist attacks against their opposition. Mainstream media doesnt report on that obviously. Facts are facts. We support Jew terrorists and then became targets ourselves. Its Clear as day.

Folks, I want to stick with the facts.

No conspiracies. No hype. No histrionics.

Research the people's background that orchestrated the Iraq invasion of 2003.

Richard Pearle
Paul Wolfowitz
Doug Feith
Lewis Libby
Many more.

They are all Jews; they were all Zionists.

Originally Posted by Vance

Mate, perhaps the 8% bodyfat you have left is between your ears but the fact of the matter is that white, european christians didn't even let women have a VOTE until the middle of last century. Then there is the tiny thing about women being the cause of original sin in the bible. It's a furphy for you to even argue the point that any religion is more progressive than another in relation to womens lib of all things, because it's horse shit - it's also a "FACT" that all the other major religions in the world have very similar laws about 'non-believers' not being trusted in them too. Judaism is absolutely no different.

You state it's a fact that the Israelis systematically erradicate their neighbours in the Middle East and simply bud this is utter bullshit. Point me in the direction of anyone who the Israeli's have wiped off the face of the map. And if you actually *didn't* need a history lesson you'd know that the Israeli's didn't start the 6 day war and if you knew ANYTHING about Middle Eastern politics you'd also know that if the Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians had won that particular war there wouldn't be any Israelis left to ask their feelings about it on Fox News. Israel has the capacity to glass the greater portion of the Middle East whenever they feel like it and they have been surrounded by enemies since their inception. I don't blame them for being testy when they spend every day surrounded by people who want to annihilate them.

As for your assertion that "I don't know anyone who fought and died in Iraq" - fuck you man, I was in the army, my brother was in Iraq, I have dozens of mates who are both British and Australian who have served there, and in a matter of fact I know 3 guys who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. So with all due respect get your facts straight. This isn't a pissing contest about who knows more squaddies though and your initial point is totally irrelevant.

As for 'we support jew terrorists so we become targets' - the US bankrolled Saddam, Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban to fight the soviets and then we when we turned on Saddam after Kuwait and had bases in the Holy Lands in Saudi Osama turned on the US and started attacking them. The 'jewish terrorists' had absolutely fuck all to do with it. We bankrolled a bunch of arabs against the soviets then went in with one bunch of arabs to bail out another bunch of arabs and the original bunch of arabs got pissed at the 'infidel' being in the holy land.

The 'jewish terrorists' made a point of NOT retaliating against the missile attacks against Israel in the gulf war because if they DID get involved the coalition would collapse and all the arab nations would refuse to fight with the US.

You say you don't need a history lesson champ, I'd agree with you, you need about 3 years of them.

So much truth is this post.