Fuck Israel and Zionist ; Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet

**doctormomen** · 05-31-2010, 06:10 AM

Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

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Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet

Al Jazeera's report on board the Mavi Marmara before communications were cut
Israeli forces have attacked a flotilla of aid-carrying ships aiming to break the country's siege on Gaza.
At least 19 people were killed and dozens injured when troops intercepted the convoy of ships dubbed the Freedom Flotilla early on Monday, Israeli radio reported.
The flotilla was attacked in international waters, 65km off the Gaza coast.
Avital Leibovich, an Israeli military spokeswoman, confirmed that the attack took place in international waters, saying: "This happened in waters outside of Israeli territory, but we have the right to defend ourselves."
Footage from the flotilla's lead vessel, the Mavi Marmara, showed armed Israeli soldiers boarding the ship and helicopters flying overhead.
Al Jazeera's Jamal Elshayyal, on board the Mavi Marmara, said Israeli troops had used live ammunition during the operation.
Live blogging

Aftermath of Israel's attack on Gaza flotilla The Israeli military said four soldiers had been wounded and claimed troops opened fire after "demonstrators onboard attacked the IDF Naval personnel with live fire and light weaponry including knives and clubs".
Free Gaza Movement, the organisers of the flotilla, however, said the troops opened fire as soon as they stormed the convoy.
Our correspondent said that a white surrender flag was raised from the ship and there was no live fire coming from the passengers.
Before losing communication with our correspondent, a voice in Hebrew was clearly heard saying: "Everyone shut up".
Israeli intervention
Earlier, the Israeli navy had contacted the captain of the Mavi Marmara, asking him to identify himself and say where the ship was headed.
Shortly after, two Israeli naval vessels had flanked the flotilla on either side, but at a distance.
IN DEPTH

Focus: On board the Freedom Flotilla Focus: 'The future of Palestine' Focus: Gaza's real humanitarian crisis Outrage over Israel attack Tensions rise over Gaza aid fleet 'Fighting to break Gaza siege' Aid convoy sets off for Gaza Programmes: Born in Gaza Video: Israel's Gaza PR offensive Video: Gazan's rare family reunion abroad Video: Making the most of Gaza's woes Organisers of the flotilla carrying 10,000 tonnes of humanitarian aid then diverted their ships and slowed down to avoid a confrontation during the night.
They also issued all passengers life jackets and asked them to remain below deck.
Al Jazeera’s Ayman Mohyeldin, reporting from Jerusalem, said the Israeli action was surprising.
"All the images being shown from the activists on board those ships show clearly that they were civilians and peaceful in nature, with medical supplies on board. So it will surprise many in the international community to learn what could have possibly led to this type of confrontation," he said.
Meanwhile, Israeli police have been put on a heightened state of alert across the country to prevent any civil disturbances.
Sheikh Raed Salah,a leading member of the Islamic Movement who was on board the ship, was reported to have been seriously injured. He was being treated in Israel's Tal Hasharon hospital.
In Um Al Faham, the stronghold of the Islamic movement in Israel and the birth place of Salah, preparations for mass demonstrations were under way.
Protests
Condemnation has been quick to pour in after the Israeli action.
Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, officially declared a three-day state of mourning over Monday's deaths.
Turkey, Spain, Greece, Denmark and Sweden have all summoned the Israeli ambassador's in their respective countries to protest against the deadly assault.

Worldwide outrage has followed the deadly Israeli attack of Gaza aid convoy [AFP] Thousands of Turkish protesters tried to storm the Israeli consulate in Istanbul soon after the news of the operation broke. The protesters shouted "Damn Israel" as police blocked them.
"(The interception on the convoy) is unacceptable ... Israel will have to endure the consequences of this behaviour," the Turkish foreign ministry said in a statement.
Ismail Haniya, the Hamas leader in Gaza, has also dubbed the Israeli action as "barbaric".
Hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists, including a Nobel laureate and several European legislators, were with the flotilla, aiming to reach Gaza in defiance of an Israeli embargo.
The convoy came from the UK, Ireland, Algeria, Kuwait, Greece and Turkey, and was comprised of about 700 people from 50 nationalities.
But Israel had said it would not allow the flotilla to reach the Gaza Strip and vowed to stop the six ships from reaching the coastal Palestinian territory.
The flotilla had set sail from a port in Cyprus on Sunday and aimed to reach Gaza by Monday morning.
Israel said the boats were embarking on "an act of provocation" against the Israeli military, rather than providing aid, and that it had issued warrants to prohibit their entrance to Gaza.
It asserted that the flotilla would be breaking international law by landing in Gaza, a claim the organisers rejected.

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 07:51 AM

Good for them! Now maybe those asshats will realize that you don't go fucking around in a life or death situation. It's not like protesting in London, Los Angeles, or Berlin. It's not fun and games in the Middle East.

Also, "The Israeli military said four soldiers had been wounded and claimed troops opened fire after 'demonstrators onboard attacked the IDF Naval personnel with live fire and light weaponry including knives and clubs'", you most certainly do not attack some of the best trained soldiers on the planet unless you're ready, and able, to finish it.

When are moronic first-world activists going to get it into their heads that most of the world can be a very dangerous place? Maybe now that that they can see what happens?

Good for Israel.

**Little Wing** · 05-31-2010, 08:38 AM

i really wouldn't give two shits if israel was wiped off the face of the earth and took gaza with it. israel is a bitter old cunt. you can't really know unless you were there but it sounds as if this action was bullshit and israel is making some fresh enemies.

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

i really wouldn't give two shits if israel was wiped off the face of the earth and took gaza with it. israel is a bitter old cunt. you can't really know unless you were there but it sounds as if this action was bullshit and israel is making some fresh enemies.

So what, they should have just let people shoot at them?

**bandaidwoman** · 05-31-2010, 09:23 AM

Special Alert: Flotilla Battle Unleashes Anti-Israel Wave

doctormormon, best to read this, it gives a balanced view of what this "humanitarian" flotilla really was. I don't think Israel over reacted. I'm neutral regarding Israel.

Propaganda Not Humanitarianism

If there was any doubt that these organizations were unconcerned with universal human rights, this was confirmed by the rejection of a request from the family of Gilad Shalit for activists to pressure Hamas to allow international organizations to bring letters and food packages to the kidnapped soldier in exchange for the family's support for the international expedition's attempt to dock in Gaza.

In fact, Israel offered to transfer the supplies on the flotilla to Gaza from Ashdod port through official channels, an offer that was rejected in favor of confrontation on the part of the anti-Israel activists. As flotilla organizer Greta Berlin stated: "this mission is not about delivering humanitarian supplies, it's about breaking Israel's siege."

The flotilla was clearly warned by the Israeli Navy in advance of the boarding and the offer repeated by the IDF.

Ironically, this site was referred to me by one of the progressive Iranian scientist I work with.

As an athiest I can tell you this gaza thing will never be resolved. The issue is not religious, the gaza strip controls water to the region, think about it, squabbllng tribes no matter what the religion in a desert , yes desert region will always fight over land that controls water ( and therefore life).Religions can change and they would still be fighting over this piece of land.....

**Little Wing** · 05-31-2010, 09:28 AM

do you have proof they were shot at? nor do i have proof they weren't. it just really does not sound as if that was the purpose of the flotilla. israel had it's ego up it's ass about not letting them reach gaza so it seems POSSIBLE they invented being shot at. you think it's IMPOSSIBLE that israel is full of shit about what actually happened? hmmmm let's see shooting at us is suicide but they wanted to die so bad they did. how does that aid the people they were trying to get aid to? it's just bad logic. about as logical as fighting wars over a turd which is pretty much what's at the bottom of this. this SHITHOLE is mine.

**Little Wing** · 05-31-2010, 09:33 AM

if they can't share the water they should all die. fuck 'em. what the hell drives people? if i owned land with water and people bought land beside me and had no water i would gladly share. if there's not enough water to sustain you move, you're living on a barren turd.

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

do you have proof they were shot at? nor do i have proof they weren't. it just really does not sound as if that was the purpose of the flotilla. israel had it's ego up it's ass about not letting them reach gaza so it seems POSSIBLE they invented being shot at. you think it's IMPOSSIBLE that israel is full of shit about what actually happened? hmmmm let's see shooting at us is suicide but they wanted to die so bad they did. how does that aid the people they were trying to get aid to? it's just bad logic. about as logical as fighting wars over a turd which is pretty much what's at the bottom of this. this SHITHOLE is mine.

Did you not read bandaidwomans' link? One of the backers of the flotilla is known for sacrificing people to achieve their ends.

How does it aid them? It gets uniformed people angry about a situation that they don't fully understand (you) and gets those same people to back them and stand against the oh so unfair Israelis.

I know, I know, a Muslim shooting at a Jew, it just doesn't happen.

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

if they can't share the water they should all die. fuck 'em. what the hell drives people? if i owned land with water and people bought land beside me and had no water i would gladly share. if there's not enough water to sustain you move, you're living on a barren turd.

It may have started with water rights, but the Palestinians have made it clear that they simply want to kill every last Israeli.

**doctormomen** · 05-31-2010, 09:53 AM

Bullshit..a neutral mind cant believe that those peaceful activists are terrorists..they are from England,Greece,Turkey and many European countries.The attack occurred in the international water.let me say that those Israeli dogs wouldnt dare to do this,unless they have the American green line.....Again Fuck Israel

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by doctormomen

Bullshit..a neutral mind cant believe that those peaceful activists are terrorists..they are from England,Greece,Turkey and many European countries.The attack occurred in the international water.let me say that those Israeli dogs wouldnt dare to do this,unless they have the American green line.....Again Fuck Israel

A neutral mind? Ri-i-i-ght...

It's not like those fucked up Muslims aren't into sacrificing people for their cause. They've even tried to use a retarded guy to do a suicide bombing.

At least the Israelis do a stand up fight, and don't act like the bitches that Muslims are.

**Little Wing** · 05-31-2010, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by DOMS

It may have started with water rights, but the Palestinians have made it clear that they simply want to kill every last Israeli.

i say kill them all and let god sort them out. it is clear by now this will never end and both parties are equally guilty of keeping it going. can you end war with violence? two parties can't get along you kill them both seems to me it would make the next combatants more ready to seek peace.

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

i say kill them all and let god sort them out. it is clear by now this will never end and both parties are equally guilty of keeping it going. can you end war with violence? two parties can't get along you kill them both seems to me it would make the next combatants more ready to seek peace.

The real problem is that people outside of the region (the US, UN, UK, etc.) are interfering with the conflict, which has caused it to drag out.

If this fight was left to its own devices, it would have ended a decade or more ago. Of course, there would be no more Palestinians. Which I'm okay with.

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 10:03 AM

Besides, give it time. At some point, a Arab nation will get a nuke, use it on Israel, and then Israel will nuke them back. At which point most of the Middle East will be irradiated.

For the betterment of the world.

**doctormomen** · 05-31-2010, 10:04 AM

As an athiest I can tell you this gaza thing will never be resolved. The issue is not religious, the gaza strip controls water to the region, think about it, squabbllng tribes no matter what the religion in a desert , yes desert region will always fight over land that controls water ( and therefore life).Religions can change and they would still be fighting over this piece of land.....[/QUOTE]

wrong thought.its all about belief...its our battle and we gave them the lesson on 6th October..and we r giving them the last lesson soon...israel ..it's just time.

**Little Wing** · 05-31-2010, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by DOMS

The real problem is that people outside of the region (the US, UN, UK, etc.) are interfering with the conflict, which has caused it to drag out.

If this fight was left to its own devices, it would have ended a decade or more ago. Of course, there would be no more Palestinians. Which I'm okay with.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Besides, give it time. At some point, a Arab nation will get a nuke, use it on Israel, and then Israel will nuke them back. At which point most of the Middle East will be irradiated.

For the betterment of the world.

good and even better. war war war war war war... time to stomp on that area and try something else.

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by doctormomen

wrong thought.its all about belief...its our battle and we gave them the lesson on 6th October..and we r giving them the last lesson soon...israel ..it's just time.

What lesson? That Muslims are cowardly bitches that target women and children? That Muslims can't fight for shit, witness the 7-day war and the 2006 bitch-slap of Lebanon.

Everyone already knows.

**doctormomen** · 05-31-2010, 10:11 AM

the whole world should know who is the real terrorist

YouTube Video

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 10:22 AM

**Big Smoothy** · 05-31-2010, 11:13 AM

Cheers doctormomen,

for calling the racist sickening Jewish Zionist of Israel to task.

Did you all know that it is ILLEGAL for a Jew in Israel to marry a NON-JEW?

Fact.

Your tax dollars hard at work: in the racist religiosist Jewish Israeli hate regime.

MIXED MARRIAGES:
With the exception of consular marriages, a marriage between a Jew and non-Jew may not be performed in Israel. Either the non-Jewish partner must convert to Judaism or the Jewish partner must convert to the religion of the other.

Whether two persons of different non-Jewish religious communities may marry depends on the religious laws of the religious communities involved.

U.S. Embassy Israel

For the record, Muslims, do the same.

(I am a non-theist.)

**doctormomen** · 05-31-2010, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by DOMS

really all what u got in ur brain is mocking others..this is all what u have..

**doctormomen** · 05-31-2010, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

Cheers doctormomen,

for calling the racist sickening Jewish Zionist of Israel to task.

Did you all know that it is ILLEGAL for a Jew in Israel to marry a NON-JEW?

Fact.

Your tax dollars hard at work: in the racist religiosist Jewish Israeli hate regime.

U.S. Embassy Israel

For the record, Muslims, do the same.

(I am a non-theist.)

what do u mean by muslims do the same?

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by doctormomen

really all what u got in ur brain is mocking others..this is all what u have..

All I have? I pointed out that any lesson taught was given to the Muslims. In every major encounter with Israel, they got their asses beat down. The only thing that the Muslims "win" is killing civilians with bombs.

I also pointed out that Muslims love a martyr. Which explains why Muslims would start a fire fight in the midst of the activists. They're cowards who can't fight for shit, so they're trying to influence public opinion by getting innocents killed.

**Big Smoothy** · 05-31-2010, 11:48 AM

^ Jewish Israelis kill civilians all of the time.

Do your research.

**Little Wing** · 05-31-2010, 07:46 PM

got this email today.

Emergency protests today‏
From: Jewish Voice for Peace (info@jewishvoiceforpeace.org) Sent: Mon 5/31/10 3:47 PM

Message

Join us on:

Jewish Voice for Peace condemns Israel's attack and killing of members of the Freedom Flotilla aiming to bring much needed aid to the besieged Gaza Strip.

Before the flotilla was attacked, Yigal Palmor, an Israeli foreign ministry spokesman, said,

"If we let them throw egg at us, we appear stupid with egg on our face. If we try to prevent them by force, we appear as brutes."

Israel has more than egg on its face. Israel has blood on its hands. At least 10 passengers have been killed by Israel and about 30 wounded in international waters. This is just another deadly escalation of Israel's harsh repression of nonviolent protests against the occupation, paid with American tax-dollars.

The White House has stated that it "deeply regrets the loss of life and injuries sustained, and is currently working to understand the circumstances surrounding this tragedy."
This is not enough.

President Obama should call for an immediate lifting of the siege of Gaza. He should support an international and impartial investigation into the tragic killing of civilians in a humanitarian mission. And he should suspend military aid to Israel until he can assure the American public that our aid is not used to commit similar abuses.
EMERGENCY PROTESTS TODAY
Join local activist in your area... Here are some happening right now...
(Additional protests here: http://gazafreedommarch.org/cms/en/flotilla/protest.aspx)
NY: 3 PM TODAY, Times Square. Assemble at 47th St. and 7th Ave. Look for the JVP banner to join our contingent.

SAN FRANCISCO: 12noon TODAY. Israeli Consulate (456 Montgomery St.) and march to Union Square, Memorial Day. Please be there! Bring your own sign! 1 pm at Market and Powell.

DC: 3pm TODAY: Assemble at the Israeli Embassy, 3514 International Drive NW (Van Ness Metro Stop), moving to the White House at 5pm.
SEATTLE: 1:00 pm TODAY. 5th Avenue and Broad St, Seattle Center near the Experience Music Project.
MIAMI: 5pm-7pm TODAY, at Torch of Friendship (Downtown)

**GearsMcGilf** · 05-31-2010, 08:15 PM

It's ironic that whenever Hezbollah or Hamas takes credit for an attack that kills dozens of unarmed Israelis no one bats an eye. But, if one (Palestinian) civilian gets caught in the crossfire and is killed by Israeli fire, everyone is quick to condemn Israel. Sounds like two sets of standards at work. When Israel takes out civilians it's collateral damage. When Hezbollah or Hamas take out civilians, it's a successful strike. Go Israel!

**jmorrison** · 05-31-2010, 08:17 PM

Every army in the history of conflict has killed civilians. Do YOUR reseach.

The Isrealis fucking told them prior to them even shipping out that they would not be allowed to reach Gaza.

This wasnt unprovoked, and if they truly DID come under fire, then they handled it the way it should have been.

And Littlewing, while I enjoy most of your posts, this is definately not your area. Biiter old Cunts? Try being under almost constant attack for a couple thousand years and see how it affects your views of warfare.

If Isreal told me in no uncertain terms that I would not be permitted to complete a goal, I would fucking reconsider my goals, or undertake them with the express understanding that Israel is not Canada, and they take attacks on their national security pretty seriously.

Doctormomen, you are obviously biased, and your posts show it.

**Little Wing** · 05-31-2010, 08:42 PM

it's not the way of the world for men to just bow down before people who tell them shit that they don't want to hear. if it was we'd still live in england and serve the queen.

**doctormomen** · 05-31-2010, 08:47 PM

[/QUOTE]jattacks on their national security pretty seriously.

Doctormomen, you are obviously biased, and your posts show it.[/QUOTE]

lol im biased!! wow ..
Did israel own the international water ????shame

**DOMS** · 05-31-2010, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

it's not the way of the world for men to just bow down before people who tell them shit that they don't want to hear. if it was we'd still live in england and serve the queen.

You also shouldn't be stupid enough to stick your neck into a deadly confrontation unless you can take care of yourself.

You also shouldn't bring along people (Muslims) to a potential conflict who are know for their hard-ons of martyrs.

The Muslims got some dumb ass westerns who aren't smart enough to know that the rest of the world isn't like it is the western world to die for them. I'd be a lot more upset at the Muslims if I didn't feel it was actually a public service.

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