What was General McChrystal trying to accomplish?
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06-22-2010, 08:01 PM #1Thats Dr. Keke to you! ELITE MEMBER
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What was General McChrystal trying to accomplish?
A 4 star general is really going to badmouth is commander and chief alogn with the vice president in of all things, a "Rolling Stones" interview. This guy is a very smart and accomplished man. He had to have been burned out, and this was his way of going out in a blaze of glory.Barack Obama will confront General Stanley McChrystal at the White House tomorrow as he decides whether to sack the commander of US and Nato forces in Afghanistan over disparaging and "contemptuous" remarks about senior administration officials, including the president himself.
The White House said "all options are on the table" after an "angry" Obama summoned McChrystal to Washington to explain quotes in the latest edition of Rolling Stone magazine in which the general and his senior aides accuse the US ambassador to Kabul of undermining the war, call the president's national security adviser "a joke" and mock Joe Biden, the vice-president. There is also indirect criticism of the president himself as "uncomfortable and intimidated" by senior military officials.
The White House spokesman, Robert Gibbs, declined to give assurances about McChrystal's position at a press conference today. He said US efforts in Afghanistan were bigger than one person and McChrystal was not indispensable. Gibbs added: "Without a doubt, General McChrystal has made an enormous mistake." The US defence secretary, Robert Gates, also condemned McChrystal, saying he "made a significant mistake and exercised poor judgment".
The general apologised in person and by phone to some of those criticised and issued a statement admitting "a mistake reflecting poor judgment". "I have enormous respect and admiration for President Obama and his national security team," McChrystal said.
But it is not clear whether that will be enough to save McChrystal's job after what is the latest of a series of political blunders.
A leading Democratic member of Congress, Dave Obey, chairman of the House appropriations committee, called for him to be sacked. But the general had the backing of the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, who said he "strongly supports General McChrystal and his strategy in Afghanistan and believes he is the best commander the United States has sent to Afghanistan over the last nine years".Last edited by KelJu; 06-22-2010 at 08:07 PM.
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06-22-2010, 10:17 PM #2ME4U2NV
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06-22-2010, 10:38 PM #3primeau
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He could've just been drunk and screwed up...didn't they say he partying with the Stones reporter? either way, a 4star knows better.
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The reporter was with the general and his people for a few weeks for the interview. No telling what circumstances were that led to McChrystal saying what he said.
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He's sick of the retard in charge too.
I'm so sick of this damn president. Where are all those white supremacists who were supposed to shoot him?
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06-23-2010, 12:58 AM #6Elite Member SUPER MODERATOR
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Biden is a jackass. But the general and his staff should have been on point. Can't wait to read this issue. lol
http://www.rollingstone.com/
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He is a very smart calculated man. This was his way of shoving his foot up Barack Bin Ladens ass.
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vote that MF'er for President...... he actually has a pair!!!!
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06-23-2010, 10:38 AM #9pedal pedal pedal MODERATOR
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But apparently lacks common sense.
Originally Posted by bigmoe65
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06-23-2010, 12:22 PM #10Registered User
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Originally Posted by TheGreatSatan
I'm with you, I'm starting to wonder how bad this is going to get in the next 2.5 yrs.
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06-23-2010, 12:58 PM #11Registered User
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He has plenty and showed it. Obama is more worried about his image than this war. Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
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06-23-2010, 01:33 PM #12Has lost 58lbs! ELITE MEMBER
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So he can make a "special" appearance, give another stupid speech and then leave for golf!
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06-23-2010, 01:48 PM #13Metrosexual ELITE MEMBER
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Originally Posted by TheGreatSatan
.So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
about another group that actually does something
to improve their lives.
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06-23-2010, 02:08 PM #14Registered User
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McChrystal is no dummy, it will be very interesting to see what is ultimate reason was for this.
No way was it not a calculated move to try to get something to happen, you don't spend your career in special ops and just start blabbing.
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You forgot one, DOMS
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06-23-2010, 02:26 PM #16Metrosexual ELITE MEMBER
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Precisely. Originally Posted by omerta2010
He's not just special ops, but he's also a general. He always knows what he's doing. It may be something as simple as dissension based on his own principles; but he may be playing a deeper game.
Time will tell.So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
about another group that actually does something
to improve their lives.
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06-23-2010, 08:11 PM #17RDRSE Ghost Assassin ELITE MEMBER
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McC in 2012
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It doesn't matter anyway. The world will still end in 2012
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He fell on a grenade for the greater good. he felt it would take the forced resignation of a 4 star general for telling the truth to get people questioning president obama's leadership.
and Obama demotes a guy to fill his shoes? WTF? Originally Posted by IainDaniel
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I am proud of the General. Finally someone tells it like it is!
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So could McCain, but you know he'll outlive us. Especially with that hot piece of ass at home to look forward to
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These are the same group of guys that would be upset if someone spoke out against Bush. Hypocrites.
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06-24-2010, 09:47 AM #23Thats Dr. Keke to you! ELITE MEMBER
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If you go back a few years worth of post you would hear the Obama bashers saying continuously how all American's should respect the president's role even if you didn't respect the man, and all thta horseshit. Originally Posted by suprfast
What they forgot to say was this only applies to white republican presidents. If the president is black and democrat, no respect whatsoever is owed to the man or the position.
Yes, big Ol' hypocrites.
Eventually, more people will come over to my side and admit that the "I'll do whatever the fuck I want to do as long as I get away with it policy" is the only policy that makes sense. Respect for a position is dumb, and respect must be earned not awarded.
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Bullshit. Originally Posted by suprfast
There's a huge difference in how Bush and Obama treat the military. It's more than just what you read in the papers.
I have several relatives that are in the military (various branches and roles). They're the ones that I get my information from, not the infotainment crap that so many others do.So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
about another group that actually does something
to improve their lives.
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Reminds me of the first Captain we had on my ship, he was the rebellious type for the sake of his crews morale. Coming back from a 6 month deployment the command wanted to send us for a 2 week patrol along the Mexico california drug running corridor. Our Captain told the Pacific Command we aren't the DEA and his men needed to get home to their families. Same thing the General is looking out for the wellbeing of his troops, these are my favorite types of leaders always looking out for their followers. he main reason I wanted out was when our spineless Chief wouldn't stand up for our division and our Div-Officer was scared to butt heads with him.....
Coarse edged youth, the irish pendants string from their smiles
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no sign of despair in their hair, nor their hearts
but oh they have yet to be experienced and that makes aging so very worth it...ML circa2012
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