Thread: Unemployment extension

dam that is bs

I have heard the whole "why pay money to lazy people" bit before. You do realize that your benefits are determined by how much taxes you paid in during the previous fiscal quarter? If you don't work and pay in, you get nothing out in the form of employments benefits. So how does this turn into paying lazy people to sit at home. also, these benefits are pathetic in comparison to what you were making previously.


For instance, in Alabama when a friend of mine was laid off from one of the closing plants, he was making $2,500 a month. The maximum unemployment benefits in Alabama is $800.00 a month. That's not exactly living high up on the hog. It is piddly shit in comparison to tax cuts for the rich only a few years ago.

Originally Posted by KelJu

I have heard the whole "why pay money to lazy people" bit before. You do realize that your benefits are determined by how much taxes you paid in during the previous fiscal quarter? If you don't work and pay in, you get nothing out in the form of employments benefits. So how does this turn into paying lazy people to sit at home. also, these benefits are pathetic in comparison to what you were making previously.


For instance, in Alabama when a friend of mine was laid off from one of the closing plants, he was making $2,500 a month. The maximum unemployment benefits in Alabama is $800.00 a month. That's not exactly living high up on the hog. It is piddly shit in comparison to tax cuts for the rich only a few years ago.

where in bama? I'm from mississippi. I'ma ride over. You got a daughter?

Originally Posted by ceazur

where in bama? I'm from mississippi. I'ma ride over. You got a daughter?

I moved from Mobile, Alabama to Louisiana almost two months ago. I don't have any kids, but I have a first cousin with downs syndrome that we could have a blast with.

Originally Posted by KelJu

I moved from Mobile, Alabama to Louisiana almost two months ago. I don't have any kids, but I have a first cousin with downs syndrome that we could have a blast with.

I am (fortunately) employed.

Yes, some people milk unemployment, but I think most of the long-term unemployed have debts and its hard to get by.

I believe the max is 72 weeks?

Extended for some of the long term unemployed is OK by me.

Look at how much money the government wastes in these empire expansion wars, and aid to foreign countries around the world.

Best to take care of our own first, especially in these economic times. But I don't think unemployment benefits should be indefinite, and they payments should not be high enough to discourage people from finding a job.

Makes me wish I was unemployed so I could work on my writing for as long as I wanted to.....I wouldn't make as much money, but then I think of how much money I waste going to work....Gas, mega-doses of coffee and breakfast, lunch money, dry cleaning some of my work shirts, extra load of laundry for the other shirts and pants, car maintenance, and whatever else expenses come about....

Originally Posted by maniclion

Makes me wish I was unemployed so I could work on my writing for as long as I wanted to.....I wouldn't make as much money, but then I think of how much money I waste going to work....Gas, mega-doses of coffee and breakfast, lunch money, dry cleaning some of my work shirts, extra load of laundry for the other shirts and pants, car maintenance, and whatever else expenses come about....

i saw a show once where a financial advisor actually put on paper for this couple how they'd save money if the wife didn't work. the woman cried. of course they were paying for daycare too.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

i saw a show once where a financial advisor actually put on paper for this couple how they'd save money if the wife didn't work. the woman cried. of course they were paying for daycare too.

I had my first public viewing of a poem last night, a friend commissioned me to write one for thank you cards at his party, it was ocean themed here is what I wrote:

On one of those nights when the sea writhed with undulant breaths,
Moonlight rippling through the cascade of twinkling plankton
as seahorses stampeded through the ocean range,
Friends gathered for feast and folly upon the shore,
with moonlit backdrop while stars cataracted into their eyes
and children chased each other on the grass,
Two places one moment just as magical...


It was on cards placed at each seat, got a lot of compliments on the imagery and wording....

Originally Posted by KelJu

I have heard the whole "why pay money to lazy people" bit before. You do realize that your benefits are determined by how much taxes you paid in during the previous fiscal quarter? If you don't work and pay in, you get nothing out in the form of employments benefits. So how does this turn into paying lazy people to sit at home. also, these benefits are pathetic in comparison to what you were making previously.

Actually, It has ZERO to do with what taxes you paid in any quarter. Benefits are determined by the laws in the state you file in. The general formula is 50 percent of the employee's weekly wage, not to exceed a statutory cap on amount paid. The cap is based on a percentage of the state's average weekly wages for all workers. benefits are normally paid for 26 weeks however they have been extended by the govt.
State Unemployment Insurance Benefits, Employment & Training Administration (ETA) - U.S. Department of Labor

Originally Posted by twarrior

Actually, It has ZERO to do with what taxes you paid in any quarter. Benefits are determined by the laws in the state you file in. The general formula is 50 percent of the employee's weekly wage, not to exceed a statutory cap on amount paid. The cap is based on a percentage of the state's average weekly wages for all workers. benefits are normally paid for 26 weeks however they have been extended by the govt.
State Unemployment Insurance Benefits, Employment & Training Administration (ETA) - U.S. Department of Labor

Yes, I know I over simplified the explanation. But my point stands that what you get paid out is determined by what you paid in along with other factors such as what state you live.

If you don't pay in, you get nothing out.

It's fun to blast unemployment benefits until you need them yourself.

I saw on the new some Ahole in cali was saying this was the best thing that happen to him ever..he's 24 a surfer andhe said he surfs all day and partys all night all on unemployment nice..

That's the guy that gets the headlines. The guy spending the hours of a full time job seeking employment and/or improving his skills to find employment doesn't get mentioned because he isn't making a fuss for the camera. He's doing what he needs to do to survive. That isn't news worthy, it doesn't grab the viewer's attention.

Originally Posted by KelJu

I moved from Mobile, Alabama to Louisiana almost two months ago. I don't have any kids, but I have a first cousin with downs syndrome that we could have a blast with.

Alabama sure sounds fun

My buddy gets 430$/week. That is with the taxes taken out.

So what is it now? 156 weeks? Heard they just extended it...again.

I know a company that just fired 3000 people in NC and moved operations to Ireland. Those people aren't lazy. They just got outsourced. The unemp ins gives them at least some funds to tread water until they can uproot and move to a different area where they can find work in their profession but the economy is in the shitter so it takes more time for expansion to provide such positions.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

I know a company that just fired 3000 people in NC and moved operations to Ireland. Those people aren't lazy. They just got outsourced. The unemp ins gives them at least some funds to tread water until they can uproot and move to a different area where they can find work in their profession but the economy is in the shitter so it takes more time for expansion to provide such positions.

There is a lot of that happening right now.

I know a guy who got laid off in September of 2009. He is still collecting, no job interviews, sits at home when he is not working for someone else under the table. Now he will continue that for another year. Thanks partly to Obama

Originally Posted by Doublebase

There is a lot of that happening right now.

I know a guy who got laid off in September of 2009. He is still collecting, no job interviews, sits at home when he is not working for someone else under the table. Now he will continue that for another year. Thanks partly to Obama

Yeah I just don't think most Americans are lazy asses. I think most of us base our egos on our ability to earn a living and get shit done. Hopefully I'm right and the lazy asses are the minority. All my friends work their balls off.

Originally Posted by Doublebase

There is a lot of that happening right now.

I know a guy who got laid off in September of 2009. He is still collecting, no job interviews, sits at home when he is not working for someone else under the table. Now he will continue that for another year. Thanks partly to Obama

Holy shit! The guy you know riding it out means they're all doing it! Write a letter to congress, bring in the national guard, shoot the neighbor's cat! Because, Martha, if one guy is doing it they're all doing it!

On a serious note, since the whole story behind that guy you know being out of work is not known, at least not here, it's impossible to draw a conclusion about why he's still on unemployment and apparently not looking for a job. No interviews doesn't necessarily mean he isn't looking. It means places he has gone to aren't hiring or aren't interested in him. Somebody working under the table like that doesn't make him a bad guy, it just means he's doing what he needs to do or all that he can do to survive. If you can live and support a family on just unemployment more power to you.

I think if people get paid to sit on their asses at home they'll never get a job. Fucking lazy bums

The one time I had to file for unemployment only lasted for two weeks. Looking for a job became my job. Spent nearly forty hours a week looking until I found one.

And back then jobs were FAR more plentiful.

Originally Posted by Doublebase

Are you happy or not happy that they extended it?

I personally think it is complete bs. I'm sick of paying for these lazy people who just sit home and collect. I know everyone is not like this but I know a lot of people on it and they are non-motivated and have no work ethic. What are your thoughts? Do you think this helps the economy or is it just enabling people to sit home for 30 more weeks or whatever.

I am fortunate that I'm working and have been working.

Yes, some people are milking it. And I am also reminded of the $9 Trillion, yes Trillion with a "T" that the fed used to bailout the big boys. At the same time, working stiffs eat dirt.

Yes, some milkers are out there, but how many are milking the UE benefits?

Most Americans (at least statistically) have debts and mortgage payments. Add children, and UE payments are low enough to motivate many to look for work.

The one catch is.....there are a large number of Americans that are basically unemployable. Meaning, at over 50, they may never truly enter the labor force again.

Yes, they can mop floors or get a service sector job, but that may be their only prospects.

IMO, this is becoming an issue for these "99ers" to do any job you can get, and not refuse it.

As for their mortgages, ability to pay rent, pay for car insurance, and such, when the UE bennies run out, they will have to stay with family or they will fall through the cracks.

Personally, I would take any job I could get to pay the rent on a small studio/efficiency apartment and live a spartan lifestyle.

These extension cannot, and will not, go on forever.

Originally Posted by TheGreatSatan

I think if people get paid to sit on their asses at home they'll never get a job. Fucking lazy bums

I make more in 4 hours than unemployment compensation pays me for an entire week. there are many white collar folks in the same position as I. only those on the lower end of the wage scale does unemployment compensation just about equal regular earnings.

Let them get a god damn job anywhere at Mcdonalds if they have to. People have been on unemployment for years now just milking the Gov its sick. You can get a job but peole dont want to work at a gas station or home depot or a fast food rest.Work 2-3 god damn jobs if you have to support your family. But no now they can bum off the gov a little longer.

Companies are firing and laying off workers for the specific purpose of replacing them with people that they can pay less. The man on top needs a bigger yacht and wants to keep his private jets.