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    I need a new truck

    I went to get a tire patched last week and was informed that I am driving a hazard wagon.

    I had to sign a waiver before I left because the guy told me it was unsafe for him to let me leave because I could sue them.

    My ball joints are bad; which is true but I think he exaggerated slightly.

    My hazard wagon has 150k and is 10 yrs old.

    Should I replace the joints, 800 bucks or just get a new/used ride.
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    is that fabio in your avatar?

    get a jeep. i have an old shitbucket '88 jeep that didn't cost me hardly anything and it starts even in the coldest maine weather. i think i could shoot it and it would still run. i love it.

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    also get a son in law that's really good with fixing vehicles.

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    fix your balls, a new truck will just feel like someone else's balls.

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    my balls do need fix'n.

    the need lubed up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
    is that fabio in your avatar?
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    If the front end is shot at a 150k it must be a dodge. I had a toyota that I put 275k on and it ran perfect when I sold it. BTW, 800 bucks is cheaper then a new car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoe65 View Post
    If the front end is shot at a 150k it must be a dodge. I had a toyota that I put 275k on and it ran perfect when I sold it. BTW, 800 bucks is cheaper then a new car.
    ford exploder. the front is 100% gone.

    It's reliable as far as engine and the AC is kick ass. Body is dinged up pretty good.

    i'm just gonna fix it. Not because I think the fucking wheels are gonna fall off like douche bag told me but because i don't like the squeaking when i turn or hit bumps.

    its about 180 per joint, so probably less than 400 for the front. I think the back is fine. You can't trust these chain mechanics. They always trying to sell something.

    driving an older beat up ride is kinda my style anyway. It conveys an attitude of, I don't care what you think and driving around a car with a 700 a month payment doesn't make you dick longer
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROID View Post
    ford exploder. the front is 100% gone.

    It's reliable as far as engine and the AC is kick ass. Body is dinged up pretty good.

    i'm just gonna fix it. Not because I think the fucking wheels are gonna fall off like douche bag told me but because i don't like the squeaking when i turn or hit bumps.

    its about 180 per joint, so probably less than 400 for the front. I think the back is fine. You can't trust these chain mechanics. They always trying to sell something.

    driving an older beat up ride is kinda my style anyway. It conveys an attitude of, I don't care what you think and driving around a car with a 700 a month payment doesn't make you dick longer
    I have two buddies who got out of mechanic work because it's so damn dishonest. If they just fix the things that need it, then they'll go broke. New cars are for pussies. Get a socket set, a manual for your vehicle, and get your hands dirty like a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by withoutrulers View Post
    New cars are for pussies. Get a socket set, a manual for your vehicle, and get your hands dirty like a man.
    In other words for people with money....
    Fuck working on my car I busted my knuckles enough to know what a treat it is when I bring my BMW in for it's free maintenance and they give me a loaner for a few days then I don't have to worry about fixing my ride in one long session, I don't have to worry about rushing to put it back together for the next day to go to work and then tearing it apart that evening...
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    Quote Originally Posted by withoutrulers View Post
    New cars are for pussies. Get a socket set, a manual for your vehicle, and get your hands dirty like a man.

    Fuck that shit! Car maintenance is as fun as getting kicked in the nuts. I'll pay a reputable professional who will do the job in a fraction of the time, and do it properly.

    If I didn't have just one ride, I might would think differently, but when you only have one, it better damn well be dependable. I have an Impala with 190K miles on it. I currently have a parasitic power drain somewhere. My fix has been to take the battery terminal off at night. Solves the problem, and I don't have to spend $500.000 and/or 4 weekends worth of time fixing it.

    I'll do this until I have enough money to buy another used car outright. Car payments are for chumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    Fuck that shit! Car maintenance is as fun as getting kicked in the nuts. I'll pay a reputable professional who will do the job in a fraction of the time, and do it properly.

    If I didn't have just one ride, I might would think differently, but when you only have one, it better damn well be dependable. I have an Impala with 190K miles on it. I currently have a parasitic power drain somewhere. My fix has been to take the battery terminal off at night. Solves the problem, and I don't have to spend $500.000 and/or 4 weekends worth of time fixing it.

    I'll do this until I have enough money to buy another used car outright. Car payments are for chumps.
    Do like my dad did to our Griswold Station Wagon, he wired a dc light switch mounted to the dash to break the battery connection. Knowing what I know now about DC and battery amperages it wasn't smart but it was funny to have a house style switch in our car...

    I miss that green beast, I must have found 10 candy bars worth of loose change in the seat cushions. We'd spend whole trips shoving our arms elbow deep to grab coins....that's the great thing about those type of sloping bench seats and 1980's clothing with shallow pockets.....
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    That power drain could easily be a battery that's damn near shot. If it can't hold a charge over night it's pretty much history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROID View Post
    I went to get a tire patched last week and was informed that I am driving a hazard wagon.

    I had to sign a waiver before I left because the guy told me it was unsafe for him to let me leave because I could sue them.

    My ball joints are bad; which is true but I think he exaggerated slightly.

    My hazard wagon has 150k and is 10 yrs old.

    Should I replace the joints, 800 bucks or just get a new/used ride.
    I would get it fixed because why have to make payments on a new car ...
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    Depends on your commute, if your 10 minutes here 10 minutes there, ride that bitch into the ground. if you cover a good distance and you can afford it buy a two year old vehicle for 50% of the original sale price. new cars are for suckas... or just rich people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    In other words for people with money....
    Fuck working on my car I busted my knuckles enough to know what a treat it is when I bring my BMW in for it's free maintenance and they give me a loaner for a few days then I don't have to worry about fixing my ride in one long session, I don't have to worry about rushing to put it back together for the next day to go to work and then tearing it apart that evening...
    that's what i said, pussies with money. Not impressed by your beemer, or the claim to have busted your knuckles. Just cause you can afford to pay someone else to do it doesn't mean you have to. Everybody is so quick to give away their money and perpetuate division of labor. You don't just get a fixed car, you also get experience and the confidence that you can depend on yourself if need be. I doubt roids has a warranty giving him free maintenance and a loaner, rich kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by withoutrulers View Post
    . I doubt roids has a warranty giving him free maintenance and a loaner, rich kid.
    I guess i'll just have it fixed. spark plugs, oil, brakes I can do but this is too big of a job for me.

    I don't think manic was always a rich kid. He had to earn the BMW. He is still a fag because He won't give me a job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    That power drain could easily be a battery that's damn near shot. If it can't hold a charge over night it's pretty much history.
    My car eats a battery every year or so. I have gone through 3 batteries in 4 years. The autoparts store battery checker tested everything about my car and determined that the battery was good, but the battery had a 2 amp draw on it even with the car not running and everything turned off. Like I said, as long as I take the battery terminal off the battery when I'm not using the car, I haven;t had a problem. If I leave the terminal on overnight, I have to jump start the car.

    I was actually considering doing Manics idea. Sounds like a good fix until my car burns down from a short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by withoutrulers View Post
    that's what i said, pussies with money. Not impressed by your beemer, or the claim to have busted your knuckles. Just cause you can afford to pay someone else to do it doesn't mean you have to. Everybody is so quick to give away their money and perpetuate division of labor. You don't just get a fixed car, you also get experience and the confidence that you can depend on yourself if need be. I doubt roids has a warranty giving him free maintenance and a loaner, rich kid.
    Let me tell you about growing up so poor we had a car with plexi-glass windows because the neighborhood I lived in was so bad anyone with a car was considered rich so they'd break into them all the time. We are talking only half of the stalls in the complex parking lot were ever used because most of the tenants walked or rode the bus. I used to help my dad fix his cars all of the time starting at 6 years old, by the time I was 12 I was rebuilding motorcycle engines on scrappers we'd find at junk yards. I've left my share of knuckle meat on greasy bolts to build a burger. I've helped pull engines, replace trannies, built gaskets out of cereal boxes, installed glass packs on friends trucks and then blew them out by hosing them down after riding hard.....

    The reason I bought a BMW, because I like well engineered things that are built sturdy. I look at these Japanese and American cars and they are built with cheap parts, everything feels loose and hollow, things rattle in the doors and the trunk, door handles are loose and floppy, buttons fall off. I get in my 128 and it is solid, the steering wheel is tight, the leather is tight and form fitting, the gas pedal is stiff with no play I slap the dash board and it gives a thud not a hollow wonk, I pull the door shut and the handle feels like it's welded to the door frame, I start it up, hit the gas and zip away when I hit the rough patch of road there is a slight vibration and a light rumble, in my Nissan the same patch would toss me side to side and the doors and trunk would sound like charging samurais in laquered plated armor, same when I had my Ford Ranger and Escort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by withoutrulers View Post
    that's what i said, pussies with money. Not impressed by your beemer, or the claim to have busted your knuckles. Just cause you can afford to pay someone else to do it doesn't mean you have to. Everybody is so quick to give away their money and perpetuate division of labor. You don't just get a fixed car, you also get experience and the confidence that you can depend on yourself if need be. I doubt roids has a warranty giving him free maintenance and a loaner, rich kid.

    Division of labor is a good thing. I don't like working on cars. It is fucking boring to me. I like it as much as doing my own lawn work. I could cut my grass or pay or pay a land scaper to do it for me. My time is worth more to me than the money I save doing shit myself. It provides me opportunity to better myself in areas that are more lucrative or en enjoyable.

    I drive an old clunker that has been dependable as hell. I credit much of that to having a good mechanic. A car is just my ride, it isn't my hobby.
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    roid shop around thats very high price for 2 ball joints. i payed 120.00 for one, on a truck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    My car eats a battery every year or so. I have gone through 3 batteries in 4 years. The autoparts store battery checker tested everything about my car and determined that the battery was good, but the battery had a 2 amp draw on it even with the car not running and everything turned off. Like I said, as long as I take the battery terminal off the battery when I'm not using the car, I haven;t had a problem. If I leave the terminal on overnight, I have to jump start the car.

    I was actually considering doing Manics idea. Sounds like a good fix until my car burns down from a short.
    Look up a battery switch from somewhere like Summit Racing. It's made for use on a car battery and to be switched on a daily basis.

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    I get a new vehicle every 3 years I look at a car payment as a forever ending debt. I know, it's bad but I don't want to deal with car problems.

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    Kelj, We have a Blue Seas On/Off with removable key for $15.00 you can install it inline and then you just have to open the hood, turn the key and you're done.....

    One thing in older cars the cigarette lighter plug stayed powered even after the key was turned off, if you have a cellphone charger plugged into it it can bleed power slowly like a transformer plugged into a house outlet. Even if the phone isn't plugged in it still draws power...

    Another option for daytime is a small battery maintainer, a small solar panel to trickle charge the battery..about $30 at most Auto parts stores.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by unclem View Post
    roid shop around thats very high price for 2 ball joints. i payed 120.00 for one, on a truck.
    yeah, i was mistaken. I didn't know that there are two per side.

    The guy told me he could do all 4 for 700.

    He said you have to do both on each side because they are attached or something like that. I really have no clue when it comes to these things on a vehicle.
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    i didnt know that until u just told me lol. but now i know. i used to work on cars but fuck that its a pain now. the old cars are easier, trucks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by unclem View Post
    i didnt know that until u just told me lol. but now i know. i used to work on cars but fuck that its a pain now. the old cars are easier, trucks.
    It may not be like that in every vehicle. I'm gonna go somewhere else and see what they tell me. I don't trust these chain mechanic shops.

    I had someone tell me about a year ago that it would only cost 180 per side and that it wasn't the ball joints it was something called a push bar ??

    Bro, it seems like every month we have some major expense come up.

    Houses are getting very cheap down here right now. I would like to put back some money and work toward purchasing a home.

    A guy sara knows just payed 200k for a 500k home. We're not looking to get a 500k home but a small two bedroom would be nice. Better than throwing away money on rent every month
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    Quote Originally Posted by withoutrulers View Post
    that's what i said, pussies with money. Not impressed by your beemer, or the claim to have busted your knuckles. Just cause you can afford to pay someone else to do it doesn't mean you have to. Everybody is so quick to give away their money and perpetuate division of labor. You don't just get a fixed car, you also get experience and the confidence that you can depend on yourself if need be. I doubt roids has a warranty giving him free maintenance and a loaner, rich kid.
    You sound a tad grumpy, WOR -- or maybe just hungry, You begrudge a man for having a nice car? I hope that doesn't apply to women, homes, jobs, hair, shoes, children, guns, boats and wristwatches, too. Shouldn't those things, to which we aspire, be an individual choice? Or maybe that pinko cast to your avatar isn't accidental. Huh, huh? What about it. . . comrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Let me tell you about growing up so poor we had a car with plexi-glass windows because the neighborhood I lived in was so bad anyone with a car was considered rich so they'd break into them all the time. We are talking only half of the stalls in the complex parking lot were ever used because most of the tenants walked or rode the bus. I used to help my dad fix his cars all of the time starting at 6 years old, by the time I was 12 I was rebuilding motorcycle engines on scrappers we'd find at junk yards. I've left my share of knuckle meat on greasy bolts to build a burger. I've helped pull engines, replace trannies, built gaskets out of cereal boxes, installed glass packs on friends trucks and then blew them out by hosing them down after riding hard.....

    The reason I bought a BMW, because I like well engineered things that are built sturdy. I look at these Japanese and American cars and they are built with cheap parts, everything feels loose and hollow, things rattle in the doors and the trunk, door handles are loose and floppy, buttons fall off. I get in my 128 and it is solid, the steering wheel is tight, the leather is tight and form fitting, the gas pedal is stiff with no play I slap the dash board and it gives a thud not a hollow wonk, I pull the door shut and the handle feels like it's welded to the door frame, I start it up, hit the gas and zip away when I hit the rough patch of road there is a slight vibration and a light rumble, in my Nissan the same patch would toss me side to side and the doors and trunk would sound like charging samurais in laquered plated armor, same when I had my Ford Ranger and Escort.
    I admire you for learning how to fix things at such a young age but isnt a 1 series BMW a little faggy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    You sound a tad grumpy, WOR -- or maybe just hungry, You begrudge a man for having a nice car? I hope that doesn't apply to women, homes, jobs, hair, shoes, children, guns, boats and wristwatches, too. Shouldn't those things, to which we aspire, be an individual choice? Or maybe that pinko cast to your avatar isn't accidental. Huh, huh? What about it. . . comrade?
    we've already discussed my politics you and i. I've stated quite frequently that i'm an anarchist. You suggesting that i'm a communist isn't really an insult to me. Lots of anarchists refer to themselves as "libertarian socialist". I'm not grumpy, just disgusted by everyone's lack of frugality. I don't particularly hold it against mandingo for having a beemer, but i am a leftist and get a little irritated by flagrant bragging about possessions.
    Manic's story of extreme poverty is sad, but probably exaggerated. He's a writer after all. Till we all can have beemers VIVA la resistance COMRADE

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