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  1. 09-13-2010, 12:40 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by busyLivin View Post
    While that's all true, crowds equal votes. If she runs (which she obviously will), I don't doubt that the Republicans electorate will nominate her.

    I'd still vote for her against Obama (easy choice), but I'd rather see Romney or Gingrich go up against him.
    Electoral votes wins presidential elections the popular vote is meaningless. Look at "all" the electoral votes that McCain got..you seriously think Palin would fare better? lol at Palin winning the electoral votes from WA, OR, IL, MI, OH, PA, FLA or CA, not in this lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    Electoral votes wins presidential elections the popular vote is meaningless. Look at "all" the electoral votes that McCain got..you seriously think Palin would fare better? lol at Palin winning the electoral votes from WA, OR, IL, MI, OH, PA, FLA or CA, not in this lifetime.
    I'm talking about party nomination. I think Palin can be nominated, but I don't think she'd stand a chance of winning the general election.
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    Palin has a lot of "support" on tv....people showing up to see her speak and sign books, etc. doesn't transfer to senior GOP leaders giving a thumbs up for a presidential nomination that doesn't even hold a current office.
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    Palin has a lot of "support" on tv....people showing up to see her speak and sign books, etc. doesn't transfer to senior GOP leaders giving a thumbs up for a presidential nomination that doesn't even hold a current office.
    She's going to run...i think we can all agree on that. Now if she gets the votes to be the nominee, I don't see how the Republican establishment can do anything to stop it. What are you suggesting they would do? Deny republicans the candidate they chose? Wouldn't happen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    Palin has a lot of "support" on tv....people showing up to see her speak and sign books, etc. doesn't transfer to senior GOP leaders giving a thumbs up for a presidential nomination that doesn't even hold a current office.
    and "support on tv" is the what got Obama elected. He was a nobody before he ran for President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by busyLivin View Post
    and "support on tv" is the what got Obama elected. He was a nobody before he ran for President.
    TV support was a by-product of his popularity gained through underground and grass roots organizations. At the time, he was cool, because he wasn't a Washington insider. He wasn't some old rich white guy in the pockets of lobbyist. He was young and fresh. I am of coarse speaking only of the atmosphere at the time and not my personal beliefs.

    He got my vote damn near on the premise alone that Obama/Biden was the only alternative to McCain/Palin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    At the time, he was cool, because he wasn't a Washington insider
    How is a senator not a Washington insider?

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    He wasn't some old rich white guy in the pockets of lobbyist
    No, he was in the pocket of Unions, and he paid (or should I say "stimulated") them back graciously
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    Quote Originally Posted by busyLivin View Post
    and "support on tv" is the what got Obama elected. He was a nobody before he ran for President.
    you are missing the point about political power...Palin has nobody on the GOP that can do anything for the Democrats in any of their key states, thus they get no electoral votes in them.

    getting voters to the polls has nothing at all to do with the electoral college and the process of actually "obtaining" electoral votes.
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Situation View Post
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    The number of people in the U.S. who are in poverty is on track for a record increase on President Barack Obama's watch, with the ranks of working-age poor approaching 1960s levels that led to the national war on poverty.
    Has little/nothing to do with the President - it's about the structure of the US economy not about the cyclical aspect.

    Meaning, the core foundation of the US economy is the cause.
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