Thread: Cigars

I enjoy a cigar now then, only a couple times a year though, or even less now that I think about it. It is kind of a tradition with one of my buddies.

that's how I got started smoking cigarettes a few parties in a row smoking cigars with the men and I found out I like the way my imagination works under nicotines influence....

I don't have a humidor as I usually just buy one once a month or so. The last one I have was a Havana Honey Corona Del Sol Honey. It was pretty good.

I got started smoking them in the Navy with the first Captain of my ship, me the supply officer, my friend in the radio shack and he would buy each other some and share them every now and then on the fantail after dinner while on exercises....

this is worth a read...

From Beyond, Mark Twain Lets Loose : NPR

a bit from
Excerpt: 'Who Is Mark Twain?'
Conversations with Satan

by Mark Twain









... We are a vain and thoughtless race. In criticising in this large and arrogant way other people's tastes in the matter of tobacco I was satirizing myself, without for the moment being conscious of it. For it has been my habit to look down in a superior way upon persons who were so low in the scale of intelligence as to believe such a thing possible as the establishing of a standard of excellence in tobacco and cigars. Tastes in this matter seem to be infinite. Each man seems to have a standard of his own, and he also seems to be ashamed of the next man's taste and hostile to his standard. I think that no one's standard is steadfast, but is at all times open to change. When we travel, and are obliged to go without our favorite brand and take up with the cigar of the country we chance to be in, we presently find ourselves establishing that cigar as our standard. In Venice we are at first too good to smoke those cheap black rat-tail "Virginias" that have a straw through them, but a fortnight's familiarity with them changes all that and we adopt the Virginia as our standard. In Florence and Rome we are sorry for a people who are condemned to smoke the cheap menghettis and trabucos, but soon we prefer them to any other cigars. In Germany, France and Switzerland we take less kindly to the native cigars; but in India we quickly come to believe that the Madras two-cent cigar is much better than the Cuban cigar which costs twenty cents in New York. I must not claim to speak fairly and justly about high-priced cigars, for I have never bought any myself, and have not smoked other people's when I could substitute a cheap one of my own without being discovered; for to my mind there is no cigar that is quite so vile and stenchy and inflammable as a twenty-cent Havana. This is probably a superstition; for I am well satisfied that all notions, of whatever sort, concerning cigars, are superstitions — superstitions and stupidities, and nothing else. It distresses me to hear an otherwise sane man talk about "good" cigars, and pretend to know what a good cigar is — as if by any chance his standard could be a standard for anybody else.
We have all noticed this — and it tells its own story: that when we go out to dine at another man's house, we privately carry along a handful of cigars as a protection. We know that the chances are that his standard and ours will differ. We take his cigar, but we manage a substitution furtively. From long habit — backed by prejudice and superstition — I dread those high-priced Havanas with a fancy label around them; a label which costs the hundredth part of a cent, and augments the price of the cigar twenty-seven degrees beyond its value. I have accepted tons of those; and given them to the poor. It is not that I hate the poor, for I do not; but only because I cannot bring myself to waste anything, even a fancy-labeled execrable cigar.
Not more than two persons in eight hundred thousand know even their own cigars when they are outside of the box; they think they do, but that is another superstition. Years ago several friends of mine used to come to my house every Friday night to play billiards. They patiently smoked my cheap cigars and never said a wounding word about them. With one exception. That was a gentleman who thought he knew all about cigars, and whose opinion was like the rest of the world's — not valuable. He had a high-priced brand of his own, and he did not like my cheap weeds. He tried to smoke them, but he growled all the time, and always threw the cigar away after a few whiffs, and tried another and another and another. He did that all one winter. The truth was, that they were his own cigars, not mine. By request, his wife sent me a couple of dozen every Friday afternoon. He may not believe this when he sees it in print, but the other witnesses are there yet, and they will confirm the truth of my statement.
And I have another case. One winter, along in those years, I heard that the "long nine" of fifty years ago was being manufactured and marketed again, and I was glad, for I had smoked them when I was a lad of nine or ten and knew that twelve or fifteen of them could be depended upon to make a day pass pleasantly at light cost. I sent to Wheeling and laid in a supply, at 27 cents a barrel. They were delightful. But their personal appearance was distinctly against them; and besides they came in boxes that were not attractive; boxes that held a hundred each and were made of coarse blue pasteboard; boxes that were crazy, and battered, and caved in, and ugly and vulgar and plebian, and looked like the nation. Just the aspect of the box itself would make anybody sea-sick but me; with the burnt-rag aspect of its homely contents added, the result was truly formidable.
I could not venture to offer these things, undisguised, to my friends, for I had no desire to be shot; so I put fancy labels around a lot of them, and kept them in a polished mahogany box with a perforated false bottom that had a damp sponge under it; and gave them a large Spanish name which nobody could spell but myself and no ignorant person could pronounce; and said that these cigars were a present to me from the Captain General of Cuba, and were not procurable for money at any price. These simple devices were successful. My friends contemplated the long nines with the deepest reverence, and smoked them the whole evening in an ecstasy of happiness, and went away grateful to me and with their souls steeped in a sacred joy.
I carried the experiment no further, but dropped it there. A year later these same men were at my house to discuss a topic of some sort — for it was a social club, and its members met fortnightly at each other's houses in the winter time, and discussed questions of the day, and finished with a late supper and much smoking. This time, in the midst of the supper, the colored waiter came to me, looking as pale as amber, and whispered and said he had forgotten to provide proper cigars, and there was no substitute in the house but the vulgar long nines in the blue pasteboard boxes — what should he do? I said pass them around and say nothing — we could not help ourselves at this late hour. He passed them.
It was usual for these people to smoke and talk an hour and a half. But this time they did not do that. They looked at the battered blue box dubiously, and in turn took out a long nine hesitatingly, and lit it. Then an uncanny silence fell upon the company; conversation died. Then, after five minutes, a man excused himself and left — had an engagement, he said. In a couple of minutes, another man lied himself out. Within ten minutes the whole twelve were gone and I was alone; and it was not yet eleven o'clock.
In the morning at breakfast the colored man asked me how far it was from the front door to the upper gate. I said it was a hundred and twenty-five feet. Then he said, impressively, "Well, sir, you can walk the whole way, and step on a long nine every time."
What an exposure of human nature it is. Those were the same cigars that had lifted those people into heaven a year before. They had smoked all their lives, yet they knew nothing about cigars. The only way that they could tell a fine cigar from a poor one was by the label and the box; and the great majority of men are just like them. The wine merchant and the cigar dealer have an easy chance to get rich, for it is merely a matter of knowing how to select the right labels.
In the continental States, tobacco is a government monopoly, and the tobacco used is native — almost altogether. In Vienna there is but one shop where importations can be had. But it keeps no endurable brands of English or American smoking tobacco. When I speak of English tobacco I mean American tobacco manufactured in England. America has many brands of good smoking tobacco; and could have good and cheap native cigars, I suppose. In fact we had good native cigars fifteen years ago, but none now, so far as I know. I am not hard to please, but to my mind the American native cigar is easily the worst in the world — and it costs from seven to ten cents, too. The trabuco cigar, furnished by the Austrian government, suits my taste exactly, comes up to my strictest standard, and even a little above it; and it costs just 40 cents a hundred. The best native American cigar cannot compare with it. Perhaps it is our high protection that has degraded our tobacco. There being no foreign competition, we can compel ninety-nine Americans in the hundred to smoke any rubbish we please, since he cannot afford the imported article; and as a result we are the only considerable nation in the world which smokes supremely villainous cigars.
Possibly my approval of the Austrian cigar pays it but a doubtful compliment, but I do not think so. For I am one of the sixteen men now alive in the world who estimate a cigar by its personal qualities, not by its name and its price.
Excerpted from Who Is Mark Twain? by Mark Twain

My friend got me started rolling j's with pipe tobacco mixes and herbs like cloves you mix it right no one can tell your smoking mj....we were 30 feet from the waikiki police sub-station enjoying our "hand-rolled cigs" after lunch on the beach last april....

Tough to follow Little Wings post-but I love a good cigar. Lived in Mexico doing the foreign-exchange deal back in college, and got hooked on all the fantastic cheap cigars. Damn things got all popular in this country, now the prices are outta sight. Got a bi-monthly poker game a few miles away, and the cigars alone are worth the cost of the trip and buy-in.

there are horrible flies on the lakes and ponds when you fish up here and men smoke cigars because the bugs don't like it. in the open air the occasional whiff is nothing at all like a cigarette and can be quite nice.

Cigar Quotes

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A Collection of Witty Remarks and Unquestionable Truths about the cigar.

There aren’t too many bad habits that can inspire such amusing quotes.
And while you may not recognize many of the names, what you will find is their words reflect the love and appreciation of a great cigar.
We had fun collecting these cigar quotes; we hope you find the same joy in reading them.

Best quote ever
Of course, he most famous cigar quote comes from King Edward VII of England. During the reign of Queen Victoria, smoking was frowned upon and not allowed at court. That changed when Edward VII came to the throne at the beginning of the 20th Century, and after dinner pronounced, "Gentlemen, you may smoke."

Our top 10 quotes
"My boy! Smoking is one of the greatest and cheapest enjoyments in life, and if you decide in advance not to smoke, I can only feel sorry for you."
-- Sigmund Freud - to his young nephew, Harry, after he declined a cigar

"Cigar smoking knows no politics. It's about the pursuit of pleasure, taste, and aroma."
-- Anonymous

"A good cigar is like tasting a good wine: you smell it, you taste it, you look at it, you feel it - you can even hear it. It satisfies all the senses."
-- Anonymous

"He who has money smokes cigars but he who has no money smokes paper."
-- an old Spanish saying

"Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar."
-- Mark Twain

"If I cannot smoke in heaven, then I shall not go."
-- Mark Twain

"The best cigar in the world is the one you prefer to smoke on special occasions, enabling you to relax and enjoy that which gives you maximum pleasure."
-- Zino Davidoff

"Given the choice between a woman and a cigar, I will always choose the cigar."
-- Groucho Marx

"A good Cuban cigar closes the door to the vulgarities of the world."
-- Franz Liszt, Composer

More unforgettable and remarkable quotes
"Pull out a Montecristo at a dinner party and the political liberal turns into the nicotine facist."
-- Martyn Harris

"But when I don't smoke I scarcely feel as if I'm living. I don't feel as if I'm living unless I'm killing myself."
-- Russell Hoban

"The Germans are the most philosophical people in the world, and the greatest smokers: now I trace their philosophy to their smoking...Smoking has a sedative effect upon the nerves, and enables a man to bear the sorrows of his life (of which everyone has his share) not only decently, but dignifiedly."
-- George Burrow

"There's nothing quite like tobacco: it's the passion of decent folk, and whoever lives without tobacco doesn't deserve to live."
-- Moliere Don Juan

"For undemocratic reasons and for motives not of State, They arrive at their conclusions largely inarticulate. Being void of self-expression they confide their views to none; But sometimes in a smoking room, one learns why things were done."
-- Rudyard Kipling

"There are men here and there to whom the whole of life is like an after-dinner hour with a cigar; easy, pleasant, empty, perhaps enlivened by some fable of strife to be forgotten before the end is told - even if there happens to be any end to it."
-- Joseph Conrad

"There's peace in Larranaga, there's calm in Henry Clay,
And a woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke."
-- Rudyard Kipling

"A woman is just a script, but a cigar is a motion picture."
-- Samuel Fuller

"After a truly good meal, an outstanding cigar is still the most satisfying after-dinner activity that doesn't involve two human beings."
-- Brad Shaw

"A cigar has '... a fire at one end and a fool at the other.'"
-- Horace Greely

"Women are jealous of cigars... they regard them as a strong rival."
-- William Makepeace Thackeray

"If I paid $10 for a cigar, first I'd make love to it, then I'd smoke it."
-- George Burns

"If a woman knows a man's preferences, including his preference in cigars, and if a man knows what a woman likes, they will be suitably armed to face one another."
-- Colette

"Every cigar goes up in smoke."
-- Brazilian proverb

"If the birth of a genius resembles that of an idiot, the end of a Havana Corona resembles that of a 5-cent cigar."
-- Sasha Guitry

"Where there's a good smoke there's a cigar smoker."
-- Cuban saying

"Smoking is indispensable if one has nothing to kiss."
-- Sigmund Freud

"Do not ask me to describe the charms of reverie, or the contemplative ecstasy into which the smoke of our cigar plunges us."
-- Jules Sandea

"A good cigar is as great a comfort to a man as a good cry to a woman."
-- E.G. Bulwer-Lytton Darnley

"Earth ne'eer did breed such a jovial weed."
-- Barten Holyday

"He who has money smokes cigars but he who has no money smokes paper."
-- an old Spanish saying

"He walked on sucking his cigar, and apparently in as abstracted a mood as Mr. Cargill himself."
-- Sir Walter Scott

"What this country needs is a good 5-cent cigar."
-- Thomas Marshall

"Would you want to drink a good wine with a straw?"
-- Zino Davidoff

"You kissed my trembling hand and on my finger you slipped an eighteen-carat cigar band."
-- "You'll be Reminded of Me", song lyric from the movie Vivacious Lady

"Light me another Cuban."
-- Rudyard Kipling

"Cigar smoking actively encouraged."
-- sign in a London restaurant

"Remember, commander, no cigars before launch."
-- a Cuban doctor's orders to an astronaut at Cape Canaveral

"Darling, you must choose between me and your cigars."
-- Rudyard Kipling

"Cigars after dinner are delightful, smoking before breakfast is unnatural."
-- Bernard Shaw

"I do not seek for fame A general with a scar; A private let me be, So I have my cigar...
Some sigh for this or that, My wishes don't go far; The world may wag at will, So I have my cigar."
-- Thomas Hood

"Lastly (and this is, perhaps, the golden rule), no woman should marry a man who does not smoke."
-- Robert Louis Stevenson

"Lady Bracknell: Do you smoke?
Earnest: Well, yes, I must admit I smoke.
Lady Bracknell: I am glad to hear it. A man should always have an occupation of some kind."
-- Oscar Wilde

"In the future all men will be able to smoke Havanas."
-- Herr Doktor Schutte

"Here, have a cigar. Light it up and be somebody."
-- from the film Pete Kelly's Blues

"To smoke is human; to smoke cigars is divine."
-- Unknown

"By the cigars they smoke, and the composers they love, ye shall know the texture of men's souls."
-- John Galsworthy

"Gentlemen, you may smoke."
-- King Edward VII

"Now here's Bud Scott
And his old guitar,
Always smoking his big cigar."
-- Louis Armstrong

"Cognac and cigars... it's like finding the perfect woman. When you've got her, why go chasing after another?"
-- Michael Nouri, Actor

"There was a young man of Herne Bay who was making some fireworks one day: but he dropped his cigar in the gunpowder jar. There was a young man of Herne Bay."
-- Ogden Nash

"The Christians met on the way many people who were going to their towns, women and men, with a firebrand in the hand, and certain weeds whose smoke they inhale which are dry weeds stuffed into a certain dry leaf in the form of a muset made of paper, like the ones the children make on the day of the Holy Ghost; and burning a part of it, from the other part they suck or absorb or admit the smoke with breathing."
-- Christopher Columbus

"The most futile and disastrous day seems well spent when it is reviewed through the blue, fragrant smoke of a Havana Cigar."
-- Evelen Waugh

"There are two things a man never forgets - his first love and his first cigar."
-- John Bain

"That's close, but no cigar."
-- common Carnival Barker's quip

"Tobacco is a dirty weed, I like it. It satisfies no normal need, I like it. It makes you thin, it makes you lean, It takes the hair right off your bean It's the worst damn stuff I've ever seen
I like it."
-- Graham L. Hemminger

"They had no good cigars there, my lord; and I left the place in disgust."
-- Alfred Lord Tennyson

"The cigar is the perfect complement to an elegant lifestyle."
-- George Sand

"Any cigar smoker is friend, because I know how he feels."
-- Alfred de Musset

"...the eternal attributes of prestige, success, and savoir faire."
-- Italo Calvino

"Cigarettes are for chain-smoking, cigars must be smoked one at a time, peaceably, with all the leisure in the world. Cigarettes are of the instant, cigars are for eternity."
-- G. Cabera Infante

"This blessed gift of smoking!"
-- H.G. Wells

"A handmade cigar is a rebellion against frenzy and insanity; it means supporting contemplation over rash impulse, and represents a civilized revolution."
-- Steve Worthington

"The cigar is a great resource. It is necessary to have traveled for a long time on a ship to understand that at least the cigar affords you the pleasure of smoking. It raises your spirits. Are you troubled by something? The cigar dissolves it. Are you subject to aches and pains (or bad temper)? The cigar will change your disposition. Are you harassed by unpleasant thoughts? Smoking a cigar puts one in a frame of mind to dispense with these. Do you ever feel a little faint from hunger? A cigar satisfies the yearning. If you are obsessed by sad thoughts, a cigar will take your mind off of them. Finally, don't you sometimes have some unpleasant remembrance or consoling thought? A cigar will reinforce this. Sometimes they die out, and happy are those who do not need to relight too quickly. I hardly need to say anything more about the cigar, to which I dedicate this little eulogy for past services rendered."
-- The Duc de la Rochefoucauld-Liancourt

"I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form."
-- Winston Churchill

"Ah, if only I had brought a cigar with me! This would have established my identity."
-- Charles Dickens

"I smoke in moderation. Only one cigar at a time."
-- Mark Twain

"I pledged myself to smoke but one cigar a day. I kept the cigar waiting until bedtime, then I had a luxurious time with it. But desire persecuted me every day and all day long. I found myself hunting for larger cigars...within the month my cigar had grown to such proportions I could have used it as a crutch."
-- Mark Twain

"I ordinarily smoke fifteen cigars during my five hours' labours, and if my interest reaches the enthusiastic point, I smoke more. I smoke with all my might, and allow no intervals."
-- Mark Twain

"Cigars served me for precisely fifty years as protection and a weapon in the combat of life... I owe to the cigar a great intensification of my capacity to work and a facilitation of my self-control."
-- Sigmund Freud

"That's why I write in so many cigar-smoking heroes and villians who chomp their cigars."
-- Orson Welles

"If I had taken my doctor's advice and quit smoking when he advised me to, I wouldn't have lived to go to his funeral."
-- George Burns

"When they saw me walking down the street smoking a cigar, they'd say, 'Hey, that 14-year-old kid may be going places.' Of course it's also a good prop on the stage... When you can't think of what you are supposed to say next, you take a puff on your cigar until you do think of your next line."
-- George Burns

"The only way to break a bad habit was to replace it with a better habit."
-- Jack Nicholson

"I started smoking these little Italian cigars just so there was some of that smell in the air."
-- Francis Ford Coppola

"To fully appreciate fine cigars, it's important to recognize the various types of cigars. There are two basic categories of cigar. The lit and unlit."
-- P. Martin Shoemaker

"'Dear Mr. Shoemaker: I'd like to enjoy cigar smoking on a regular basis but I find that they burn my tongue. What can I do? Next time try putting the other end in your mouth."
-- from the comic strip Shoe

"On a cold winter morning a cigar fortifies the soul."
-- Stendhal

"A cigar numbs sorrow and fills the solitary hours with a million gracious images."
-- George Sand

"...I promised myself that if I ever I had some money that I would savor a cigar each day after lunch and dinner. This is the only resolution of my youth that I have kept, and the only realized ambition which has not brought disillusion."
-- Somerset Maugham

"The true smoker abstains from imitating Vesuvius."
-- August Barthelemy

"A cigar ought not to be smoked solely with the mouth, but with the hand, the eyes, and with the spirit."
-- Zino Davidoff

"Two cigars on top of each other reveal an obsession or a brutality of the soul."
-- Eugene Marsan

"There is nothing more agreeable than having a place where one can throw on the floor as many cigar butts as one pleases without the subconscious fear of a maid who is waiting like a sentinel to place an ashtray where the ashes are going to fall."
-- Fidel Castro

"What is the difference between a $10 and a $2 cigar? Eight bucks."
-- Lew Rothman

"It has been my experience that folks who have no vices, have very few virtues."
-- Abraham Lincoln

"As you approach thirty, you have a thirty ring gauge; as you approach fifty, you have a fifty ring gauge."
-- Cuban saying

“A Hoyo de Monterrey double corona is my favourite Cuban since Desi Arnaz.”
-- Bill Cosby, American actor and comedian

I like the cheapy macadamia-chocolate ones they have out here over plain expensive ones, Hula Girl, royal hawaiian and Havana Honey's oh and Kahlua I used to carry a few of their cigarillos for rare times for quick tokes with someone I ran into...

How did Bill Clinton know Monica Lewinsky was mad at him?

His cigar tasted like shit.

Originally Posted by Little Wing

this is worth a read...

From Beyond, Mark Twain Lets Loose : NPR

a bit from
Excerpt: 'Who Is Mark Twain?'
Conversations with Satan

by Mark Twain

Good read, Little Wing; thanks for sharing!

In regards to Mark Twain's message, I agree to an extent. I remember smoking some cheap cigars with some buddies outside of a bar a few years back when we were approached by a self-proclaimed cigar aficionado, who wanted to buy an extra off of my friend. My friend told him we were smoking expensive (insert made up name here) from Nicaragua and that he couldn't afford it. So the guy coughed up $25 for one. I thought for sure we were exposed, until the guy exclaimed how good it was. There are a lot more of these than there are of those who can really tell quality in a cigar (I don't claim to be there yet). I don't believe that quality is always correlated with price, though often times I find myself preferring the pricier ones.

There are a lot of really good "cheap" (inexpensive) cigars. I am hunting for them. I think I've found one in the Sancho Panza Double Maduro (granted, I only give these out, as I'd prefer to smoke my other cigars when the opportunity presents itself). A good place to get "leads" are in cigar reviews for premium cigars, where you will find the occasional comment that the cigar was nearly identical to a much cheaper brand and line. I don't smoke that often, but when I'm out of what I've got, there are a few others I'd like to try.

Cigar pricing in itself is pretty strange to me. You can buy a "premium cigar" online for half the price you would find in a shop. Anybody have a favorite site? Any favorite inexpensive cigar lines?

Originally Posted by KentDog

Good read, Little Wing; thanks for sharing!

In regards to Mark Twain's message, I agree to an extent. I remember smoking some cheap cigars with some buddies outside of a bar a few years back when we were approached by a self-proclaimed cigar aficionado, who wanted to buy an extra off of my friend. My friend told him we were smoking expensive (insert made up name here) from Nicaragua and that he couldn't afford it. So the guy coughed up $25 for one. I thought for sure we were exposed, until the guy exclaimed how good it was. There are a lot more of these than there are of those who can really tell quality in a cigar (I don't claim to be there yet). I don't believe that quality is always correlated with price, though often times I find myself preferring the pricier ones.

There are a lot of really good "cheap" (inexpensive) cigars. I am hunting for them. I think I've found one in the Sancho Panza Double Maduro (granted, I only give these out, as I'd prefer to smoke my other cigars when the opportunity presents itself). A good place to get "leads" are in cigar reviews for premium cigars, where you will find the occasional comment that the cigar was nearly identical to a much cheaper brand and line. I don't smoke that often, but when I'm out of what I've got, there are a few others I'd like to try.

Cigar pricing in itself is pretty strange to me. You can buy a "premium cigar" online for half the price you would find in a shop. Anybody have a favorite site? Any favorite inexpensive cigar lines?

Try the Momona from Kauai Cigar Co., one of my favorites, but the Havana Honey's are worth a try...

Originally Posted by maniclion

Try the Momona from Kauai Cigar Co., one of my favorites, but the Havana Honey's are worth a try...

Yes!

Originally Posted by maniclion

Try the Momona from Kauai Cigar Co., one of my favorites,

Seems to be a hard one to find.. the brand is not on any of my favorite cigar sites. Is it native to Hawaii?

Nope, don't smoke them.

I'd rather just have a cigarette or some sheesha...and I can't stand cigar smoke

Oh yeah, you forgot the options for:
"Cigar smoke taste like ass. "
"Cigars are a trendy fashion statement."

I gave up cigarettes 18 years ago but enjoy a good cigar every now and then. Can't beat soaking in the jacuzzi with a glass of whiskey in one hand and a mild smoke in the other. Macanudo Duke of York Cafe is my choice.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

I gave up cigarettes 18 years ago but enjoy a good cigar every now and then. Can't beat soaking in the jacuzzi with a glass of whiskey in one hand and a mild smoke in the other. Macanudo Duke of York Cafe is my choice.

The imagery is overwhelming.

Originally Posted by DaMayor

The imagery is overwhelming.

Well if you'd quit fantasizing about me (Like I've told you a hundred times) that wouldn't be a problem.

Originally Posted by KentDog

Seems to be a hard one to find.. the brand is not on any of my favorite cigar sites. Is it native to Hawaii?

Yeah they sell them at all the cigar shops, even one of the grocers carries them, but this grocer's owner loves finer things so he has buyers who bring in fancier than normal stuff, they have rarer wines, cheese, olive oils, beers, fresh pastas, cigars, liquors (they had absinthe last time I was there), kobe-style beef....

Smoking one now. A CAO gold torpedo.

I really enjoy smoking little filtered cigars but I don’t have too much money at the moment and I wood like to find something that tastes good is less than 10$ per pack .

filtered cigars

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