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    A.G. vows to enforce federal marijuana laws
    By Marcus Wohlsen - Associated Press Writer
    October 16, 2010

    San Francisco — Attorney General Eric Holder is warning that the federal government will not look the other way, as it has with medical marijuana, if voters next month make California the first state to legalize pot.
    Marijuana is shown for sale Friday at the San Francisco Medical Cannabis Clinic in San Francisco. Attorney General Eric Holder says the federal government will enforce its marijuana laws in California even if voters next month make the state the first in the nation to legalize the drug.

    Marijuana is shown for sale Friday at the San Francisco Medical Cannabis Clinic in San Francisco. Attorney General Eric Holder says the federal government will enforce its marijuana laws in California even if voters next month make the state the first in the nation to legalize the drug.

    Marijuana is illegal under federal law, which drug agents will “vigorously enforce” against anyone carrying, growing or selling it, Holder said.

    The comments in a letter to ex-federal drug enforcement chiefs were the attorney general’s most direct statement yet against Proposition 19 and set up another showdown with California over marijuana if the measure passes.

    With Prop 19 leading in the polls, the letter also raised questions about the extent to which federal drug agents would go into communities across the state to catch small-time users and dealers, or whether they even had the resources to do it.

    Medical marijuana users and experts were skeptical, saying there was little the federal government could do to slow the march to legalization.

    “This will be the new industry,” said Chris Nelson, 24, who smokes pot to ease recurring back pain and was lined up outside a San Francisco dispensary. “It’s taxable new income. So many tourists will flock here like they go to Napa. This will become the new Amsterdam.”

    If the ballot measure passes, the state would regulate recreational pot use. Adults could possess up to one ounce of the drug and grow small gardens on private property. Local governments would decide whether to allow and tax sales.

    The Justice Department remains committed to enforcing the Controlled Substances Act in all states, Holder said.

    “We will vigorously enforce the CSA against those individuals and organizations that possess, manufacture or distribute marijuana for recreational use, even if such activities are permitted under state law,” he wrote.

    The letter was dated Wednesday and was obtained by The Associated Press.

    Holder also said legalizing recreational marijuana would be a “significant impediment” to the government’s joint efforts with state and local law enforcement to target drug traffickers, who often distribute pot alongside cocaine and other drugs.

    The attorney general said the ballot measure’s passage would “significantly undermine” efforts to keep California cities and towns safe.

    Officials in Los Angeles County, where authorities have aggressively moved to tamp down on an explosion of medical marijuana dispensaries, vowed that they would still assist the federal government in drug investigations.

    County Sheriff Lee Baca and District Attorney Steve Cooley said at a news conference that the law would be unenforceable because it is trumped by federal laws that prohibit marijuana cultivation and possession.

    “We will continue as we are today regardless of whether it passes or doesn’t pass,” Baca said. His deputies don’t and won’t go after users in their homes, but public use of the drug will be targeted, he said.

    Both gubernatorial candidates — Democrat Jerry Brown and Republican Meg Whitman — oppose Prop 19 and declined comment Friday.

    The ex-Drug Enforcement Administration chiefs sent a letter to Holder in August calling on the Obama administration to sue California if Prop 19 passes. They said legalizing pot presented the same threat to federal authority as Arizona’s recent immigration law.

    In that case, Justice Department lawyers filed a lawsuit to block the enforcement of the law, saying that it infringed on federal powers to regulate immigration and therefore violated the U.S. Constitution. The case is now before a federal appeals court.

    Experts say the two situations are not the same.

    If Arizona wants to crack down on illegal immigration more strictly than the federal government, the U.S. can act to prevent police in the state from enforcing the law, said Robert Mikos, a Vanderbilt University law professor who studies the conflicts between state and federal marijuana laws.

    If California prevents police from enforcing the stricter federal ban on marijuana, the Supreme Court has ruled that the federal government cannot order local law enforcement to act, he said.

    It “is a very tough-sounding statement that the attorney general has issued, but it’s more bark than bite,” Mikos said.

    “The same factors that limited the federal government’s influence over medical marijuana would probably have an even bigger influence over its impact on recreational marijuana,” Mikos said, citing not enough agents to focus on small-time violators.

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    yep...definitely election season
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    Do you believe that shit!

    Man, why the fuck do we even get to cast a vote?

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    fortunately the US government will become more liberal in time once the majority of old school politicians and bible beaters types have either died or are eventually replaced by younger politicians.
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    fortunately the US government will become more liberal in time once the majority of old school politicians and bible beaters types have either died or are eventually replaced by younger politicians.

    I think they will become more liberal when they realize the amount of tax revenue (just like prohibition) they will be losing out on to the drug cartels. Most of those politicians that "thump bibles" aren't really bible folks...they pretend to so they can garnish the religious vote...until they are caught with mistress in Argentina, or a young boy intern, or an ordered guy off the internet....list goes on

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    Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
    I think they will become more liberal when they realize the amount of tax revenue (just like prohibition) they will be losing out on to the drug cartels. Most of those politicians that "thump bibles" aren't really bible folks...they pretend to so they can garnish the religious vote...until they are caught with mistress in Argentina, or a young boy intern, or an ordered guy off the internet....list goes on
    yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
    Most of those politicians that "thump bibles" aren't really bible folks...they pretend to so they can garnish the religious vote...until they are caught with mistress in Argentina, or a young boy intern, or an ordered guy off the internet....list goes on
    exactly..they all perpetrate to get votes to keep their jobs, ultimately..it's funny to watch people sell this bs and the people buy it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
    I think they will become more liberal when they realize the amount of tax revenue (just like prohibition) they will be losing out on to the drug cartels.
    I wonder if anyone has ever crunched the numbers to see what types of projected tax revenues it could generate. the cost to grow that type of crop is low so it could get wacked pretty good with even step taxes and the growers, retailers, etc. would all still make profits.
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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    I was just thinking about how we keep trying to develop our technology to be so real that it's like an hallucination....things like 3-D tvs and computer graphics to make animation look life-like, but there will always be that one step beyond that taking chemicals will produce and for that I am grateful.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    fortunately the US government will become more liberal in time once the majority of old school politicians and bible beaters types have either died or are eventually replaced by younger politicians.
    Here here!


    In face of this situation, why don't they talk on the negatives, instead of leaving such words of such actions that are to be less then evidentually means or right? I mean, if they were to say "if you are in the company of a minor child and your second hand smoke is in their lungs, and in so being that the chemicals or whatever make or impairing this person (s) be it minor or not," then I could understand, but with such causes...meaning those that are with medical needs, then so be it. WTF!?!

    Tis, crazy having folks to justify the misuse of funding on salary increases, or priority spending,(that we thought would do the job) but have no money for schools, and we are still getting more into these same F*ckers that do nodda, making rulz...then we're sunk!

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    As I've said a few times before: I don't smoke pot, but I know people who do from all backgrounds and walks of life.

    Medical or not medical, just leave people be.

    Why should the FEDERAL government intrude, spend out money, and incarcerate?

    Remember the Canadian seed seller that is doing 5 years in the US Federal prison for selling pot seeds?

    Canada sent him to the US, and caved in.

    Pathetic.

    Worthy of a thread.

    -------------------------so he had a lucrative business. So what? Big pharma, alcohol?

    10 May 2010

    Canada 'marijuana seed dealer' extradited to US
    A supporter hugs Marc Emery Marc Emery's supporters have protested against his extradition

    Canada's so-called "Prince of Pot" has been brought to the US where he is expected to plead guilty to selling marijuana seeds to US customers.

    Marc Emery allegedly sold millions of marijuana seeds around the world by post.

    He was ordered extradited by Canada's Minister of Justice Rob Nicholson on 10 May.

    Mr Emery arrived in Seattle, Washington state, on Thursday and is expected to plead guilty on Monday.

    Richard Troberman, Mr Emery's attorney, told the Associated Press news agency that his client would plead guilty to one count of conspiracy to manufacture marijuana in exchange for an agreed sentence of five years in prison.

    Entire: BBC News - Canada 'marijuana seed dealer' extradited to US
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smoothy View Post
    As I've said a few times before: I don't smoke pot, but I know people who do from all backgrounds and walks of life.

    Medical or not medical, just leave people be.

    Why should the FEDERAL government intrude, spend out money, and incarcerate?

    Remember the Canadian seed seller that is doing 5 years in the US Federal prison for selling pot seeds?

    Canada sent him to the US, and caved in.

    Pathetic.

    Worthy of a thread.

    -------------------------so he had a lucrative business. So what? Big pharma, alcohol?

    10 May 2010

    Canada 'marijuana seed dealer' extradited to US
    A supporter hugs Marc Emery Marc Emery's supporters have protested against his extradition

    Canada's so-called "Prince of Pot" has been brought to the US where he is expected to plead guilty to selling marijuana seeds to US customers.

    Marc Emery allegedly sold millions of marijuana seeds around the world by post.

    He was ordered extradited by Canada's Minister of Justice Rob Nicholson on 10 May.

    Mr Emery arrived in Seattle, Washington state, on Thursday and is expected to plead guilty on Monday.

    Richard Troberman, Mr Emery's attorney, told the Associated Press news agency that his client would plead guilty to one count of conspiracy to manufacture marijuana in exchange for an agreed sentence of five years in prison.

    Entire: BBC News - Canada 'marijuana seed dealer' extradited to US
    it's definitely a joke...a seed seller from Canada gets 5 years but drug manufactures can peddle their toxic drugs, knowingly kill hundreds and not a single person sees the inside of a prison cell, they just pay a fine and it's back to business.
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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