Thread: Drugs, Inc.

Its because it leads to doing other drugs. Alot of people will try that first, or alcohol, and then move on to something else. Id assume the smoke pot, instead of drink, but you cant inhale to be president. lol

I dont know man..I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you.. "Speedballs" are what I have for breakfast, but weed!!?? Oh man that shit will kill ya..

Originally Posted by Brandibeth

Its because it leads to doing other drugs. Alot of people will try that first, or alcohol, and then move on to something else. Id assume the smoke pot, instead of drink, but you cant inhale to be president. lol

Marijuana is NOT a gateway drug, that is a myth the government and other anti-marijuana groups perpetuated, they did quite well because people still come back with that every time. Just because you drink does not mean you will do any other drugs, and its the same with MJ, obviously there are many that start with MJ and move to harder drugs, but that does not mean they would not have done them if they never smoked MJ. There are tens of thousands of people that smoke MJ every day and do not use ANY other drug, including alcohol.

Prince,

your points are well spoken.

My interests with this drug...are by those that wish not to smell it or be affected by it. The concern I have with this drug and all other smoking type drug is the affects that can be brought forth by the second hand smoke. If there is scientific proof to prove otherwise, be it not a carcin agent or a mind altering effect then, so be it. for it would put me at rest in regards for others, as well myself...but I still hate the smell.

I don't even like cigarettes, they make me sick the smelly people that use them, have not the slightest clue just how "BAD" they smell.

As for the Reagan, he also was one that had not a single memory, at the end of his life, when all hell hit the fan, being the debt. As the media doesn't help matters either...I mean, years ago as well... he also was the one who said it was a button away. I'll never forget this crazy ass man coming on the TV and telling everyone that with a push of the button we'd be better off, toward all the enemies....what happen, the button disappear....hello, what the hell 911? Such lies that the media brings forth by allowing these crack pots to talk to our kids and make us believe is appalling!

Now we've got a broad running for Governor(CA elections) that is not paying legal taxes but tell us to improve the state of California, we need to spend up money through taxes. WTF?

thanks for the topic

I agree, I hate second hand smoke, I am not saying that it should be legal to smoke MJ in public places, it would be just like alcohol, there would be coffee bars and designated areas where it could be used so that others are not affected or can make the choice to go into a smoke shop, or just keep it legal to use in the privacy of your own home.

whats new? the government lies?... the sky is blue and more than likely the sun will rise in the morning. It's about as assured as anyone of those things.

Not that I have the solution to all of lifes problems and answers, but they sure dont either

It's not dangerous. Our government just don't make as much money off of it as they do the other drugs. End of story.

Originally Posted by Brandibeth

Its because it leads to doing other drugs. Alot of people will try that first, or alcohol, and then move on to something else. Id assume the smoke pot, instead of drink, but you cant inhale to be president. lol

I drank, then did LSD followed by Ecstasy and then opiates before I got into smoking ganja....

Originally Posted by Prince

I was watching Drugs, Inc. last night and it was another Marijuana episode, they had a clip of Ronald Reagan from the 80's in what appeared to be some type of public address, anyway here is what he said:

"Marijuana is the most dangerous drug in America".

Wow, really? I would say Alcohol, Coke, Meth, Crack, Heroine - just to name a few dangerous drugs that kill people daily.

Not one death has EVER occurred from the use of MJ, yet it's the most dangerous drug? Why is it okay to make such a blanket lie like this with not one once of scientific backing?

So, if you don't think our government leads us and persuades us with fear and ignorance I can't give a better example than that one.

Wait there is more than one episode of each drug? I saw the marijuana one where they went to dispensaries for medical MJ and then Amsterdam....is there another one?

these were great episodes/series......i did laugh though at the british coke dealer and his prices acting like he's one of the biggest hookups around.......the sad truth is that he's very low level dealer and ripping people off with shorting them and ridiculous overpricing......then again the value of the dollar/pound has dropped

Originally Posted by Brandibeth

Its because it leads to doing other drugs. Alot of people will try that first, or alcohol, and then move on to something else. Id assume the smoke pot, instead of drink, but you cant inhale to be president. lol

I've been smoking pot since I was 14 years old, and I just turned 19. Since then I have met/known quite a few people that do shit like coke and acid and piles of different pills. The worst I've ever done is taken a vicodin for a backache, and most of the people I know who I hang out with and smoke with regularly, don't touch, never have touched, and never will touch anything other than some pot.

It is ignorance like this that makes it so hard for people that aren't hurting anyone, or using it for medicinal purposes to go about their lives.

Originally Posted by prince

i agree, i hate second hand smoke, i am not saying that it should be legal to smoke mj in public places, it would be just like alcohol, there would be coffee bars and designated areas where it could be used so that others are not affected or can make the choice to go into a smoke shop, or just keep it legal to use in the privacy of your own home.

+1


If you don't want to breathe in pot smoke you probably shouldn't be standing next to somebody who's smoking a joint.

I think the effects of second hand smoke with pot are probably A LOT less harmful than that of cigarettes. A little unfiltered nature never killed anyone.

Originally Posted by Prince

I agree, I hate second hand smoke, I am not saying that it should be legal to smoke MJ in public places, it would be just like alcohol, there would be coffee bars and designated areas where it could be used so that others are not affected or can make the choice to go into a smoke shop, or just keep it legal to use in the privacy of your own home.

these are where problems are: this being for some in their homes, for others there or reside, and the idea of designated areas seem like a dream come true, but for some it is never to be a reality, because of their sickness being the main issue and their inability to move or get there. When we dealt with cancer patients, the use of it was cooked and increased by the consumption for the use of making or inducing the appetite.

What I am interested in the use of smoke versus some other means.
Someone express the use of jelly capsule and the inability to being able to swallow them.
I like the idea, with bars and such.

Prince, your point taken! thank you!

Originally Posted by Prince

Marijuana is NOT a gateway drug, that is a myth the government and other anti-marijuana groups perpetuated, they did quite well because people still come back with that every time. Just because you drink does not mean you will do any other drugs, and its the same with MJ, obviously there are many that start with MJ and move to harder drugs, but that does not mean they would not have done them if they never smoked MJ. There are tens of thousands of people that smoke MJ every day and do not use ANY other drug, including alcohol.

Prince, Dont take this the wrong way, but yes it is.
Its coming from a daughter of a drug dealer. My dad sold pot and other things for the last 45 years. And what I have seen is yes, it can and has been a gateway drug. Im not saying everybody does this, but ALOT of the kids and people Ive seen try this first, and get it into their mind that pot isnt so bad so the other stuff might not be either. And that goes for alcohol too. I GREW UP around alot of people on different kinds of drugs, and unfortunetly this is what they would try first.

Originally Posted by SYN

I've been smoking pot since I was 14 years old, and I just turned 19. Since then I have met/known quite a few people that do shit like coke and acid and piles of different pills. The worst I've ever done is taken a vicodin for a backache, and most of the people I know who I hang out with and smoke with regularly, don't touch, never have touched, and never will touch anything other than some pot.

It is ignorance like this that makes it so hard for people that aren't hurting anyone, or using it for medicinal purposes to go about their lives.

Again, Not everybody is the same. But in my experience it has lead others to do more.

I watched about 30 minutes until those stupid cops raided that field then I turned the channel. I'm like, are you people that stupid? They're so proud to go and chop down some poor old Mexican's crop and steal they're Ramen noodles. The war on marijuana will never be stopped, never. It will be legalized, and it will take some before it happens.

Originally Posted by Brandibeth

Prince, Dont take this the wrong way, but yes it is.
Its coming from a daughter of a drug dealer. My dad sold pot and other things for the last 45 years. And what I have seen is yes, it can and has been a gateway drug. Im not saying everybody does this, but ALOT of the kids and people Ive seen try this first, and get it into their mind that pot isnt so bad so the other stuff might not be either. And that goes for alcohol too. I GREW UP around alot of people on different kinds of drugs, and unfortunetly this is what they would try first.

Caffeine is the number one gateway drug, kids get zipped on caffeine and realize that chemicals can enhance them so they start looking for other boosts and highs....the start with soda and next thing they know their drinking 4 cups of coffee just to get by in the morning....

Originally Posted by 240PLUS

I watched about 30 minutes until those stupid cops raided that field then I turned the channel. I'm like, are you people that stupid? They're so proud to go and chop down some poor old Mexican's crop and steal they're Ramen noodles. The war on marijuana will never be stopped, never. It will be legalized, and it will take some before it happens.

"Time is the great legalizer, even in the field of morals." Mencken

Originally Posted by Prince

I was watching Drugs, Inc. last night and it was another Marijuana episode, they had a clip of Ronald Reagan from the 80's in what appeared to be some type of public address, anyway here is what he said:

"Marijuana is the most dangerous drug in America".

Wow, really? I would say Alcohol, Coke, Meth, Crack, Heroine - just to name a few dangerous drugs that kill people daily.

Not one death has EVER occurred from the use of MJ, yet it's the most dangerous drug? Why is it okay to make such a blanket lie like this with not one once of scientific backing?

So, if you don't think our government leads us and persuades us with fear and ignorance I can't give a better example than that one.

"Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary."

That above all else is the god damned truth, our gov. will vilify anything to trick us into thinking we need more of their kind around to protect us...

I'm not saying that I think pot should be illegal AT ALL. In fact if more people smoked it less violence in the world. We could tax it and the us would, lol, make some money. I think its way better than counseling and beer. Haha

Originally Posted by Brandibeth

Prince, Dont take this the wrong way, but yes it is.
Its coming from a daughter of a drug dealer. My dad sold pot and other things for the last 45 years. And what I have seen is yes, it can and has been a gateway drug. Im not saying everybody does this, but ALOT of the kids and people Ive seen try this first, and get it into their mind that pot isnt so bad so the other stuff might not be either. And that goes for alcohol too. I GREW UP around alot of people on different kinds of drugs, and unfortunetly this is what they would try first.

That makes you a little biased doesn't it?
Saying that pot makes people do other drugs is ridiculous, period, weather some people who smoke do harder stuff or not. Just because somebody tries acid after smoking pot, doesn't mean they wouldn't have done it anyway.
And don't you think that maybe those people who decided to do other things were influenced by your dad, and not pot? You think he wasn't telling people, 'hey, I have some of this too, buy some'? Of course he was. If pot were legalized other things wouldn't be pushed on people while their at their dealers picking up a bag. I don't know about you but nobody's ever offered me a line of coke while at a store buying smokes.

Originally Posted by Brandibeth

I'm not saying that I think pot should be illegal AT ALL. In fact if more people smoked it less violence in the world. We could tax it and the us would, lol, make some money. I think its way better than counseling and beer. Haha

Exactly.

and alcohol is bad, mmkay.

not much to say about that, you know how I feel about Reagan....

Originally Posted by Prince

I was watching Drugs, Inc. last night and it was another Marijuana episode, they had a clip of Ronald Reagan from the 80's in what appeared to be some type of public address, anyway here is what he said:

"Marijuana is the most dangerous drug in America".
and ignorance I can't give a better example than that one.

The statement above is a very stupid one, and also a form of false propaganda.

The pot paranoia campaign started in the 1930s when the federal government hired writers, producers, and actors to make those "Reefer Madness" movies.

Seemed to die down for a while, then the paranoia and propaganda campaign started up again in the 80s.

And no, pot is not a gateway drug.

Interesting how these propagandizers never called alcohol a "gateway" drug.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

And no, pot is not a gateway drug.

cigarettes/nicotine is the #1 gateway drug but you don't hear them talk about that on the news.

Originally Posted by LAM

cigarettes/nicotine is the #1 gateway drug but you don't hear them talk about that on the news.

I wouldn't disagree with you. I don't smoke pot or cigarettes, but I'm sure cigarettes are probably worst for you. They don't put chemicals in pot.

Originally Posted by SYN

That makes you a little biased doesn't it?
Saying that pot makes people do other drugs is ridiculous, period, weather some people who smoke do harder stuff or not. Just because somebody tries acid after smoking pot, doesn't mean they wouldn't have done it anyway.
And don't you think that maybe those people who decided to do other things were influenced by your dad, and not pot? You think he wasn't telling people, 'hey, I have some of this too, buy some'? Of course he was. If pot were legalized other things wouldn't be pushed on people while their at their dealers picking up a bag. I don't know about you but nobody's ever offered me a line of coke while at a store buying smokes.

You making sound as if I think Pot is the only gateway drug. I think there are numerous things that alter a persons state of being. Alcohol, pot, pain killers, caffeine. And yes my dad could have been only a part of the problem. My statement comes directly from people that would come back and ask to try other things. To me you're making it sound that I think pot is bad as well, by stating that I think it's a gateway drug. That's incorrect as well. Syn Ive read your other posts and I think of you to be a very intelligent person. Im not completely disagreeing with what your stating, Im just stating what Ive seen while growing up where I did.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

The statement above is a very stupid one, and also a form of false propaganda.

The pot paranoia campaign started in the 1930s when the federal government hired writers, producers, and actors to make those "Reefer Madness" movies.

Seemed to die down for a while, then the paranoia and propaganda campaign started up again in the 80s.

And no, pot is not a gateway drug.

Interesting how these propagandizers never called alcohol a "gateway" drug.

Wait the Government has writer, producers,actors on their payroll for the use of their personal agendas? ***Sarcastic tone****

You go and speak about that at a barbershop or a local park, the sheeps will stone you to death buddy