Thread: Can somebody explain to me why Wikileaks is a bad thing?

Would you care to display your dirty laundry for us?

Sure.

- I guess I've glanced at other peoples tests on occasion in school but apparently I'm not alone in doing that

David Callahan: Do Colleges Care About Student Cheating?

- I've never cheated on my girlfriend but she broke up with me last year around Christmas time and on New Years Eve, I got a blow job in a bathroom from a fat chick with a gorgeous face who in my drunken state I was smitten for. When we got back together, I told her that I made out with somebody at midnight that I didn't do anything else, which is clearly stretching the truth. I feel bad about telling a white lie, but I sort of think she's not being 100% truthful with her accounts of our month apart either, so I'm able to justify it.

- I smoke excessive amounts of pot mainly for self medicating purposes like going asleep. I would imagine my Mother already knows about this, but I guess I wouldn't want her to know the extent of it.

I don't know. I'm sure I've done more wrong in my life, but I like the idea of honesty and moreso because I'm just so fucking interested in the truth. Like, if my GF hadn't given me doubt in her recollection of our month apart, I doubt I would have stretched the truth with my description of occurrences. I try not to care but curiousity gets the best of me every once in a while and I wonder whether or not I'm frequently eating a vagina that's been penetrated by another mans cock in the last year.

Sooner or later, you're going to be held accountable for everything. And quite frankly, that's the way it should be. No longer will you be able to get a beaner in the oval office. No longer will you be able to send all four inches of your cock via picture texting to Jenn Sterger behind your wifes back. No longer will you be able to have the image of a perfect family man and golf superstar while having affairs with up to 30 different women.

I'm still curious as to why it's such a bad thing. It seems pretty innovative to me and precisely where this world is heading from a journalism standpoint.

Terrorism at its finest.

Stealing classified info showing it to everyone in the world is never a good thing. If we'd had people like this cat back in WWII, all of Asia and the west coast of the USA would be speaking Jap and all of EU and parts of the US would be speaking German.

There was a time when a guy like this would have mysteriously died in a car crash. But, we're too pussified nowadays to do what needs to be done. Let's just hope the guy has been downloading copyrighted music so that the feds will actually do something about him.

Don't fool yourself into thinking that the wikileaks guy actually gives a fuck about anyone who was rightfully or wrongfully killed in Iraq. If the killed journalists above worked for NY/LA Times, Newsweek, Al Jazeera, or any other anti-US publication, it was probably just as necessary as any other counter insurgency operation, because we know who they're working for.

My gosh, every single one of us has to answer to superior in the work place, why not these malfeasant politicians, after all they supposedly work for us. These politicians should not be allowed to operate with impunity, that's how we arrived in this mess in the first place.

Both of our political parties are a pretension, one agenda, and it's going to be implemented regardless of what any of us says!

The same goddamn bird just different wings.

I like state secrets. I like us knowing that china wants to bitch slap N. Korea. I like us having black on black CIA Jason Bourne types out there murdering state enemies.

somethings need to be done behind closed doors or they are never going to be done. thats just the world we live in.

I honestly think wiki leaks is a good thing though. there should be people out there trying to expose things hidden. that way the real crazy shit that shouldn't be going on has a counter balance. and we get better at hiding the stuff that should be hidden. if some douche bag civilian can get classified documents then foreign governments can as well. we need to keep our shit tight

Originally Posted by IronAddict

My gosh, every single one of us has to answer to superior in the work place, why not these malfeasant politicians, after all they supposedly work for us. These politicians should not be allowed to operate with impunity, that's how we arrived in this mess in the first place.

Both of our political parties are a pretension, one agenda, and it's going to be implemented regardless of what any of us says!

The same goddamn bird just different wings.

What the fuck are you talking about...? Wikileaks has posted thousands of classified documents detailing military operations and locations of our stations in Afghanastan and Iraq...

Now I'm pretty sure it doesn't take a 10 year old to realize what is wrong with THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD getting their hands on said documents... Cmon now.

Originally Posted by dayday87

What the fuck are you talking about...? Wikileaks has posted thousands of classified documents detailing military operations and locations of our stations in Afghanastan and Iraq...

Now I'm pretty sure it doesn't take a 10 year old to realize what is wrong with THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD getting their hands on said documents... Cmon now.

I'm speaking of the underhanded shit that gets the wool pulled over it. And besides this one individual is not the only person to let classified info. out.(remember Bush and Cheney)!

If you believe these politicians are doing a great job and all is hunky dorry more power to you, but it's not!

If they have nothing to hide, why try to hide it!

Originally Posted by IronAddict

My gosh, every single one of us has to answer to superior in the work place, why not these malfeasant politicians, after all they supposedly work for us. These politicians should not be allowed to operate with impunity, that's how we arrived in this mess in the first place.

This Julian guy is no one's superior. He's just a foreign thug who has it in for the USA and wants to compromise our national security. In the end, it may turn out to be a good thing in that the state dept will get its shit to together so that classified info isn't so easy to intercept. The general public simply doesn't have the right to know every single thing that our military, CIA, or diplomats and their counterparts discuss behind closed doors.

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

This Julian guy is no one's superior. He's just a foreign thug who has it in for the USA and wants to compromise our national security. In the end, it may turn out to be a good thing in that the state dept will get its shit to together so that classified info isn't so easy to intercept. The general public simply doesn't have the right to know every single thing that our military, CIA, or diplomats and their counterparts discuss behind closed doors.

I understand that, but I'm speaking about you and I. You obviously can comprehend what you read so, I guess that would make you 11.lol...

And I also concur with the checks and balances that should be implemented and followed. As a person that was in the military, I understand that the public doesn't have the need to know about all things top secret.

Again, what I refer to is leaked documents alleging government and corporate misconduct.

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

Stealing classified info showing it to everyone in the world is never a good thing.

Much of this information deemed "classifed" is typical speculation and gossip about personality, temperament, and rumors of who is sleeping with who.

Let the information be read by us all.

This is not super-secret info, held by high level people in most cases.

Most of it, is a boring news story that will last for a week.

Yawn.

And why believe the mainstream media? I'd rather read this rumor and gossip B.S. - and how much of it is even accurate?

And please let me add Gerald Celente, as he sums it up better than I did above:

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

And please let me add Gerald Celente, as he sums it up better than I did above:

And bingo was his namo!

It seems great until we find out 14 years from now that wikileaks was a propaganda tool used by our government to throw our enemies into a tantrum and so that they could keep releasing more fear into the populace....until we were at 1950's scare level and they could regain control.....

Originally Posted by maniclion

It seems great until we find out 14 years from now that wikileaks was a propaganda tool used by our government to throw our enemies into a tantrum and so that they could keep releasing more fear into the populace....until we were at 1950's scare level and they could regain control.....

the drugs have done a number on you as a conspiracy guy. I like it.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

the drugs have done a number on you as a conspiracy guy. I like it.

Nah, that's the writer in me looking for another angle...they actually have creative types like that help Homeland Security come up with possible methods a terrorist might attack....

Sci-fi writers join war on terror - USATODAY.com

"The 9/11 Commission called the 2001 terrorist attacks a result of the government's "failure of imagination." For this group, Walker says, there's no such thing as an "unthinkable scenario."

I will say that I wonder if some of this was actually "stolen", rather than stolen. It's hard to imagine that state dept cables were just sitting there, wide open, on a puter that some private first class could just walk up to and plug a flashdrive into. That is a little hard to swallow. Now, the public just happened to learn that all the arab countries want the USA to take out Iran's nuke capabilities and would be quietly cheering if the Israelis were to do it. We also know now that the Chinese would be perfectly fine with N. Korea's collapse.

Did this fag that was upset over "Don't ask, don't tell" really have access to classified intel, or was he a patsy like Lee Harvey Oswald?

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

Stealing classified info showing it to everyone in the world is never a good thing. If we'd had people like this cat back in WWII, all of Asia and the west coast of the USA would be speaking Jap and all of EU and parts of the US would be speaking German.

There was a time when a guy like this would have mysteriously died in a car crash. But, we're too pussified nowadays to do what needs to be done. Let's just hope the guy has been downloading copyrighted music so that the feds will actually do something about him.

Don't fool yourself into thinking that the wikileaks guy actually gives a fuck about anyone who was rightfully or wrongfully killed in Iraq. If the killed journalists above worked for NY/LA Times, Newsweek, Al Jazeera, or any other anti-US publication, it was probably just as necessary as any other counter insurgency operation, because we know who they're working for.

There wouldn't be anything posted on wikileaks if someone who has access to that information didn't give it to him. The problem lies in who is giving the information out, not where it's being broadcasted. Shut down wikileaks and it will just pop up somewhere else.

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

I will say that I wonder if some of this was actually "stolen", rather than stolen. It's hard to imagine that state dept cables were just sitting there, wide open, on a puter that some private first class could just walk up to and plug a flashdrive into. That is a little hard to swallow. Now, the public just happened to learn that all the arab countries want the USA to take out Iran's nuke capabilities and would be quietly cheering if the Israelis were to do it. We also know now that the Chinese would be perfectly fine with N. Korea's collapse.

Did this fag that was upset over "Don't ask, don't tell" really have access to classified intel, or was he a patsy like Lee Harvey Oswald?

When I was in Radio us low ranking swabbies were the ones who manned the message printers for Flash Top Secret msgs and everything below that.....if one did come in the copier was right next to the printer....of course the computer would start screaming FLASH MSG ALERT's and the TPI would fall in place....now days it's even easier with cellphone cameras, etc... Such devices weren't supposed to be allowed in but rules are broken.....it's not like we frisked one another as we entered the keypad secured door....

Originally Posted by Zaphod

There wouldn't be anything posted on wikileaks if someone who has access to that information didn't give it to him. The problem lies in who is giving the information out, not where it's being broadcasted. Shut down wikileaks and it will just pop up somewhere else.

That's true, but then the next question is, why ?

And then the follow up should read like this. Why now, why not during the bush presidency ?

Originally Posted by IronAddict

That's true, but then the next question is, why ?

And then the follow up should read like this. Why now, why not during the bush presidency ?

That's what we would have to ask those doing the leaking.