Thread: British government wants all porn filtered out of the web

Those Limey bastards!

Originally Posted by Prince

British government wants all porn filtered out of the web, all fun sucked out of life

By Vlad Savov posted Dec 20th 2010 4:52AM
You can't be surprised at developments like these when you elect a political party whose very name is Conservative, but it's still rather sad to hear that the current UK government is putting pressure on ISPs to "protect children" by universally blocking access to porn websites. It's not outright censorship, you'll be able to "opt in" and restore your freedom to explore adult content (or anything else that's been inadvertently blocked), though it's all a rather misguided effort in our eyes. Claire Perry, one of the leading voices behind this push, cites stats noting that 60 percent of nine- to 19-year olds have found pornography online, yet she fails to elaborate on what's been so traumatizing or debilitating about the experience -- or why violent content is getting a free pass. We still think good parenting -- say, by using the local controls built into your OS or search engine -- is a much cheaper option than some complex censorship wall, but that won't prevent the Conservatives from pursuing legislation over the next couple of years if broadband providers don't figure out blocking mechanisms of their own. For shame, Britain.

British government wants all porn filtered out of the web, all fun sucked out of life -- Engadget

that reduces the functionality of the Internets by about 80%

I see no problem with this.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I see no problem with this.

why am I not surprised?

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I see no problem with this.

You're shitting me?!

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I see no problem with this.

Ok, I'll list a few off the top of my head:

1. Can't be done.
2. Fucking expensive has hell!
3. Customers will end up paying for this.
4. Single people shouldn't be financially burdened to protect the vigin eyes of you little after birth.
5. Porn is mostly harmless in the first place.
6. Non-pornography will end up being accidentally blocked in the process.

That's just what I thought up in a few seconds. Seriously, it can't be done. An enterprising young man with baby batter on the brain will figure out how to bypass security to see some tits. When I was 11, I figured out how to reprogram my parent's satellite dish to get black and white porn with no sound.

This is fucking retarded. Not just from an ethical point of view, but from a technical point of view. You just end up bogging down in bullshit, and you don't even achieve what you set out to do.

Originally Posted by KelJu

Ok, I'll list a few off the top of my head:

1. Can't be done.
2. Fucking expensive has hell!
3. Customers will end up paying for this.
4. Single people shouldn't be financially burdened to protect the vigin eyes of you little after birth.
5. Porn is mostly harmless in the first place.
6. Non-pornography will end up being accidentally blocked in the process.

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I actually agree with your list in everything, but the idea that porn is mostly harmless in the first place. I totally don't agree with that.

I honestly don't think its possible to completely block porn, and in many cases unrealistic to do so. I do however feel that steps can be taken to make those that produce porn more responsible for keeping it out of the hands of those who shouldn't be viewing it. right now any kid with an internet connection can get porn. its like back when cigarettes where sold in vending machines.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I actually agree with your list in everything, but the idea that porn is mostly harmless in the first place. I totally don't agree with that.

I honestly don't think its possible to completely block porn, and in many cases unrealistic to do so. I do however feel that steps can be taken to make those that produce porn more responsible for keeping it out of the hands of those who shouldn't be viewing it. right now any kid with an internet connection can get porn. its like back when cigarettes where sold in vending machines.

its not really the same, internet access is a paid service and you have to be 18 to get it, otherwise your parents are paying for it, if parents provide internet service to their kids the parents are responsible for installing software to block certain sites, a great free program I used before my son was 18 is K9. http://www1.k9webprotection.com

now if we're talking about free wi-fi at Starbucks then the business providing that service is responsible for content filtering.

There was a group out there that wanted to start all porn sites with xxx.whatever instead of the normal www.whatever. when my kid was like 12 he was always looking for cheat codes for his x-box game and got more porn sites than his dad knew about. And that stuff is a little messed up.

if you have cable TV or satellite you can buy XXX vids, however its the responsibility of the parents to lock this feature down, I see the internet porn no differently.
but honestly, how in the hell could all porn EVER be blocked on the internet?

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I actually agree with your list in everything, but the idea that porn is mostly harmless in the first place. I totally don't agree with that.

I honestly don't think its possible to completely block porn, and in many cases unrealistic to do so. I do however feel that steps can be taken to make those that produce porn more responsible for keeping it out of the hands of those who shouldn't be viewing it. right now any kid with an internet connection can get porn. its like back when cigarettes where sold in vending machines.

Porn was sold at the gas station by my house on the normal magazine racks back when I was a kid, one of my friends used to steal one every now and then, or dive in the dumpster when they threw out old issues....we'd invite each other over when our parents were away and sneak into our parents movie stashes....I think internet porn is safer because it's easier to block and monitor....I showed my gf's daughter how I could view the log of all websites she went to and that kept her from going to the adult only sites....I told her our new router didn't log sites when she was 16, even though it did, all she ever looked up were nude male celebs or buff nude men, never anything overly vulgar....When I was 14 my friends brother rented Faces of Death....that shit was more scarring to my mind than any of the hustlers I jerked to....

but honestly, how in the hell could all porn EVER be blocked on the internet?

Hopefully there is no way to do it. Free porn is the bomb.

Originally Posted by Prince

if you have cable TV or satellite you can buy XXX vids, however its the responsibility of the parents to lock this feature down, I see the internet porn no differently.
but honestly, how in the hell could all porn EVER be blocked on the internet?

Be like China and control all content coming into the country is the only way and that doesn't seem very democratic......

Originally Posted by maniclion

Be like China and control all content coming into the country is the only way and that doesn't seem very democratic......

I thought of that on the way home from work. But, even China can't block all of the data they don't want being seen in the country. The main reason China is marginally successful is their population is too scared to go searching out subversive information in the first place.

On the other hand, seeing some T&A is worth a major beating to a young boy. You can't block the majority of porn. Networks don't work that way. The second you try to block various addresses and subnets with a firewall, someone is going to write a program that tunnels through it. Companies with servers in other countries would make a killing hosting VPN services.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I actually agree with your list in everything, but the idea that porn is mostly harmless in the first place. I totally don't agree with that.

I honestly don't think its possible to completely block porn, and in many cases unrealistic to do so. I do however feel that steps can be taken to make those that produce porn more responsible for keeping it out of the hands of those who shouldn't be viewing it. right now any kid with an internet connection can get porn. its like back when cigarettes where sold in vending machines.

It IS mostly harmless. Millions of people jerk off to porn. Only a very very small group of people have ever claimed that it caused them harm. The same could be said about video games, gambling, or even going to church. Self control was their issue, not porn. Had it not been porn, it would have been something else, or a number of other things.

Also, why are producers of porn responsible for what parent's allow their children to have access to? That doesn't make any sense. Have you ever heard the saying that ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law? If a parent goes out of town without locking the liquor cabinet, and their child throws a party where someone goes to the hospital for alcohol poisoning, the parents would be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Porn is no different.

If parents were so fucking concerned about their children, then they would have no problem with a new law being passed. They should legislate a law called contributing to the perversion of a minor that carried heavy fines. That would shut parents the fuck up.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I actually agree with your list in everything, but the idea that porn is mostly harmless in the first place. I totally don't agree with that.

I honestly don't think its possible to completely block porn, and in many cases unrealistic to do so. I do however feel that steps can be taken to make those that produce porn more responsible for keeping it out of the hands of those who shouldn't be viewing it. right now any kid with an internet connection can get porn. its like back when cigarettes where sold in vending machines.

It isn't up to the parents to be parents?

That will be fucking right !



She thinks a 14 year old kid is not going to lie when asked if they are 18.............

Originally Posted by Prince

K9. http://www1.k9webprotection.com

I used that on a couple of internet access PCs for hotels, great filtering software.

Filtering, is a bit of a failed idea. I think on some level it shows a level of distrust, telling the people that yet one more thing will corrupt their minds. It makes it sound like government is also trying to define what is morally correct with sexuality and that sounds like religion.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I see no problem with this.

So we'll all be forced to beat off over the lingerie section in K-Mart catalogues once again.

These are the first steps (IMO) of government around the world (to varying degrees) trying to filter ALL information that us lowly citizens have access to.

Because of the internet,

Common ordinary citizens have access to more information than ever, including alternative sources to the mainstream media which is tightly controlled and censored.

I'm talking about the entire industrial Western, World.

Another example of nanny govt deciding what adults should or should not have access to. If I were a Brit and the govt forced me to go back to playboy, I would probably end up like Timothy McVeigh.

The government should not decide what people do or don't watch.

In addition as Kelju said, good luck ever filtering this. Ever hear of TOR? There's an easy, free way around this. VPN in a different country. Direct IP address access rather than going through hostname (assuming they're blocking on the basis of matched hostnames). Hell, BitTorrent - you'll never successfully block that, and there's ungodly amounts of porn on there.

I wouldn't worry about it to much.
Only some snobby bitch who was disgusted because her husband suggested anal.

Originally Posted by danzik17

The government should not decide what people do or don't watch.

In addition as Kelju said, good luck ever filtering this. Ever hear of TOR? There's an easy, free way around this. VPN in a different country. Direct IP address access rather than going through hostname (assuming they're blocking on the basis of matched hostnames). Hell, BitTorrent - you'll never successfully block that, and there's ungodly amounts of porn on there.

You know this, I know this and so do a lot of other people. But there will always be the sheep that don't have a problem being spoon fed the swill the government wants you to see.

Originally Posted by blazeftp

I wouldn't worry about it to much.
Only some snobby bitch who was disgusted because her husband suggested anal.

Tell me about it. Even if she let's you do it once or twice, you never stop getting bitched out about it.