Thread: Control

Originally Posted by ROID

How come it seems that on a weekly basis the law makers are coming up with new laws ? It's like every year we have less control over how we live out lives. Why do they feel the need to keep coming up with new laws.

I don't think someone should be forced to wear a seatbelt if they dont want to. It does save lives but if an adult doesn't want to wear one then why should he have to ?

I'm watching the news right now and in canada, they are proposing a law that makes it illegal to smoke in a car with occupants less than 16 yrs old. I agree smoking is horrible for your health but to pass a law telling people when or where they can smoke. If cigarettes are that bad then why not just ban the cigarette ?

Because the tobacco companies are giving the politicians money, and as long as they get paid they don't care if it's good for you or not.

However, I don't think telling someone they should not smoke in a car with children in their is a bad idea, at all!

Control of our behavior is just an excuse. All these well meaning (on the surface) laws come with fines. Control of our money is the real goal. Tax hikes are wildly uppopular, fines are easier to hide.

1984
brave new world
farenheit 451

Roid I am with you all the way on this one. It makes no sense. Just one more way to control the people.

Originally Posted by ROID

How come it seems that on a weekly basis the law makers are coming up with new laws ?

Because you let them. You vote for them. You do not communicate with them on a regular basis.

Do your state representative and state senator both know you by face and name? If not, then you are not doing your civic duty.

If not you, then who?

It is an important question.

Serious suggestion here - call your state representative's office, "Hi, this is ROID, I am Representative so and so's constituent, and we have never met. I would like to take him to lunch and introduce myself."

Get to know people like that, make a new friend, and you will be shocked at the results. You can bring up the seatbelt thing, or just become acquainted.

Few people do this, thinking it is somebody else's responsibility or in somebody else's control. Not in this country. It is up to you.

Originally Posted by ROID

How come it seems that on a weekly basis the law makers are coming up with new laws ? It's like every year we have less control over how we live out lives. Why do they feel the need to keep coming up with new laws.

I don't think someone should be forced to wear a seatbelt if they dont want to. It does save lives but if an adult doesn't want to wear one then why should he have to ?

I'm watching the news right now and in canada, they are proposing a law that makes it illegal to smoke in a car with occupants less than 16 yrs old. I agree smoking is horrible for your health but to pass a law telling people when or where they can smoke. If cigarettes are that bad then why not just ban the cigarette ?

some laws make more sense than others. in terms of operating a motor vehicle there are many laws most of them to either increase public safety or decrease traffic accidents, etc. which helps to keep insurance premiums lower. maybe there should be some sort of waiver, so if you are in an accident or cause one were seat belts could have prevented then the person has to incur the costs of that accident.

In a perfect world the gov would be able to force big tobacco to remove the carcinogens from their products or if not then make them illegal. but as you know EVERYTHING in the US is about money and the tobacco lobbyists are some of the most powerful in D.C

Driving is a priviledge not a right. That is why they control it.

Originally Posted by malfeasance

Because you let them. You vote for them. You do not communicate with them on a regular basis.

Do your state representative and state senator both know you by face and name? If not, then you are not doing your civic duty.

If not you, then who?

It is an important question.

LMAO! yeah that's it, do you seriously believe in the illusion that we the citizens actually have any say in anything? they want us to think that, but we have no control...and voting is a joke.

Originally Posted by Prince

LMAO! yeah that's it, do you seriously believe in the illusion that we the citizens actually have any say in anything? they want us to think that, but we have no control...and voting is a joke.

No, he believes that he should post 21 times so that he can PM for sources or maybe send spam.

Originally Posted by Prince

LMAO! yeah that's it, do you seriously believe in the illusion that we the citizens actually have any say in anything? they want us to think that, but we have no control...and voting is a joke.

Yes, I truly do believe it. The post was not written as a joke. I used to have the same attitude, until I decided to go out and change a few things that were extremely important to me. Experience has taught me that, yes, citizens actually have a say in most everything, that is, at least the ones who take the time to make the effort - kind of like training, you will get out of it what you put into it.

Originally Posted by DOMS

No, he believes that he should post 21 times so that he can PM for sources or maybe send spam.

I was absolutely attempting to get the post count up, but I also believed wholeheartedly what I wrote.