Thread: 38% of Americans Believe...

If these stats are statistically valid and sound, it's a bit disturbing.

Remember the earthquake and tsunami in 2004 that hit Indonesia and Phuket Thailand, killing over 220,000?

Local Imam in Aceh Indonesia said the Tsunami happened because people in Aceh were not being "good muslims."

Every time there is a natural disaster - which have been occurring for millions of years - it's from.....god.

I'm a little confused.

That's one of the good things about us demon spawn athiests, we attribute natural disasters for what they are, tragic occurrances. Once you stop swaddeling human tragedy in the blanket of religiosity, take away any "supernatural agenda", human suffering and misery becomes even more palpable....

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

That's one of the good things about us demon spawn athiests, we attribute natural disasters for what they are, tragic occurrances. Once you stop swaddeling human tragedy in the blanket of religiosity, take away any "supernatural agenda", human suffering and misery becomes even more palpable....

Well said... waiting for the hateraid on this comment.

I dont know about you guys but I live my life with the motto "everything happens for a reason" none the less who are we to judge if people are being "good muslims" "good asians" etc. etc. its god himself who decides that and does things the way he does just my two cents.

Originally Posted by BIGBLUECHEVELLE

I dont know about you guys but I live my life with the motto "everything happens for a reason" none the less who are we to judge if people are being "good muslims" "good asians" etc. etc. its god himself who decides that and does things the way he does just my two cents.

If you want to attribute natural disaster to the will of God, then you have to conclude that God is a prick that likes to fuck with people on a mass scale for his own amusement. Just my two cents.

Originally Posted by KelJu

If you want to attribute natural disaster to the will of God, then you have to conclude that God is a prick that likes to fuck with people on a mass scale for his own amusement.

which seems rather petty for a "god" don't you think?

Originally Posted by KelJu

If you want to attribute natural disaster to the will of God, then you have to conclude that God is a prick that likes to fuck with people on a mass scale for his own amusement. Just my two cents.

I sometimes think if there is a god, he is a genius scientist that exists on another plane of existance, created us in his laboratory and then lost control of his creation. ( like the grid in Tron).

For the record, I distrust people who claim they know God's intent, because it usually is a reflection of their own desires and wants and morals, not God's.

Originally Posted by x~factor

that's good shit right there.

i love that movie.

the US is more religious now than it was when it was originally founded...

Religion is heading for extinction in 9 countries: The BBC article lists the soon-to-be-Godless nations as Australia, Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Switzerland.

I'd post a link, but I cant.




Here are more facts from that study originally posted

• 7-in-10 Americans see God as a person with whom one can have a relationship, and a majority (56%) say God is in control of everything that happens in the world.
• However, less than 4-in-10 (38%) believe earthquakes, floods and other natural disasters are a sign from God; and even fewer (29%) believe that God sometimes punishes nations for the sins of some of its citizens.
• The one exception to this pattern is found among white evangelical Protestants.
  
  • Nearly 6-in-10 (59%) white evangelicals also believe that natural disasters are a sign from God. Only about one-third of Catholics (31%) and white mainline Protestants (34%) believe natural disasters are a sign from God.
  • A majority (53%) of white evangelicals believe that God punishes nations for the sins of its citizens--a view held by just 1-in-5 white mainline Protestants and Catholics.
  
  

Americans are more likely to attribute the increased severity of natural disasters to global climate change than to signs of apocalyptic biblical prophecy.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

I sometimes think if there is a god, he is a genius scientist that exists on another plane of existance, created us in his laboratory and then lost control of his creation. ( like the grid in Tron).

agreed. It's gonna be possible for humans to create alternate universes in the laboratory very soon. There's a nearly infinite amount of parallel universes floating around and they don't displace any of the other ones. We're just another universe.

ha! i wonder how they polled the populace. did they stand outside of the old folks home and randomly ask the geriatrics? do they also think that most people are out to scam them and think that the old days are better?

i cant see how this survey could be accurate.

Originally Posted by Diesel618

agreed. It's gonna be possible for humans to create alternate universes in the laboratory very soon. There's a nearly infinite amount of parallel universes floating around and they don't displace any of the other ones. We're just another universe.

Wow.

Where's Death Match on this one? His only source of information is polls.
Lol.

For some reason religion rises and becomes more powerful at the times of economical recessions, not just USA similar thing happened in Iran back in the day and its happening in my country, poor becomes more religious in the hope for feeling better.
I guess it is the easiest way out and blame something else other than the reality...

Originally Posted by Imosted

I guess it is the easiest way out and blame something else other than the reality...

Something tells me Obama would concur, with all he's gone through.

god works in mysetrious ways i guess
i personally blame it on the HAARP project which control the weather

non of this will matter when the aliens who put us here as their "ant farm" experiment come back next dec 21.......we will all be slaves then.....so get what you can now because now of it matters next year!!!

Originally Posted by irish_2003

non of this will matter when the aliens who put us here as their "ant farm" experiment come back next dec 21.......we will all be slaves then.....so get what you can now because now of it matters next year!!!

they aren't aliens they are reptilians and they live in the center of the earth. They have already integrated within the human population. Obama is CLEARLY one of them. What other explanation could there be for his missing birth certificate? Duh! wake up people!!! David Icke is your salvation! knowledge is power! the resistance starts now!!!!

Originally Posted by irish_2003

non of this will matter when the aliens who put us here as their "ant farm" experiment come back next dec 21.......we will all be slaves then.....so get what you can now because now of it matters next year!!!

I'm American but the majority of Americans are bloody retarded...

Originally Posted by KelJu

If you want to attribute natural disaster to the will of God, then you have to conclude that God is a prick that likes to fuck with people on a mass scale for his own amusement. Just my two cents.

I concur.

Originally Posted by UA_Iron

the US is more religious now than it was when it was originally founded...

• 7-in-10 Americans see God as a person with whom one can have a relationship, and a majority (56%) say God is in control of everything that happens in the world.
• However, less than 4-in-10 (38%) believe earthquakes, floods and other natural disasters are a sign from God; and even fewer (29%) believe that God sometimes punishes nations for the sins of some of its citizens.
• The one exception to this pattern is found among white evangelical Protestants.
  
  • Nearly 6-in-10 (59%) white evangelicals also believe that natural disasters are a sign from God. Only about one-third of Catholics (31%) and white mainline Protestants (34%) believe natural disasters are a sign from God.
  • A majority (53%) of white evangelicals believe that God punishes nations for the sins of its citizens--a view held by just 1-in-5 white mainline Protestants and Catholics.

Americans are more likely to attribute the increased severity of natural disasters to global climate change than to signs of apocalyptic biblical prophecy.

I don't see how this is possible - since church attendence is in the toilet (higher only after disasters, such as 9/11). What I find disturbing is the fanatical leadership, especially in Iran, claiming the imminent arrival of their messiah to lead them to victory against any non-muslims in 2012 - and by their actions and the middle east in chaos, I see some big shit happening soon based solely on religious beliefs. I am not a huge fan of religion - especially one that knowingly brings misery to others.

Originally Posted by KelJu

If you want to attribute natural disaster to the will of God, then you have to conclude that God is a prick that likes to fuck with people on a mass scale for his own amusement. Just my two cents.

I deal with these arseholes weekly on my You Tube channel and they are usually American folk. They sit in the comfort of their own homes, in the country they happened to be lucky enough to be born in and judge the aids infected, starving, poverty stricken children from around the world and claim that they brought it all upon themselves. Kids that die of cancer at a young age, molestered by pedophiles, cerebral palsy sufferers, floods, earthquakes, cyclone ect. They all think that their God's apparent punishment is justified and warranted due to human sin.

Volcanos, quakes, cyclones, lightning storms all happen throughout the Universe on most planets. However when it happens here on Earth it is God's way of getting angry.

To these people that think everything happens for a reason. Why do these same environmental conditions occur on many other planets throughout the Universe? Is God just having fun? Is he practising his torture skills?

This apparent God is quick to punish yet he's the master of hide and seek.

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

I deal with these arseholes weekly on my You Tube channel and they are usually American folk. They sit in the comfort of their own homes, in the country they happened to be lucky enough to be born in and judge the aids infected, starving, poverty stricken children from around the world and claim that they brought it all upon themselves. Kids that die of cancer at a young age, molestered by pedophiles, cerebral palsy sufferers, floods, earthquakes, cyclone ect. They all think that their God's apparent punishment is justified and warranted due to human sin.

Volcanos, quakes, cyclones, lightning storms all happen throughout the Universe on most planets. However when it happens here on Earth it is God's way of getting angry.

To these people that think everything happens for a reason. Why do these same environmental conditions occur on many other planets throughout the Universe? Is God just having fun? Is he practising his torture skills?

This apparent God is quick to punish yet he's the master of hide and seek.

I think it was Lewis Black who said that according to the old testament, God isn't really such a loving and kind God, but more akin to raging alcoholic.

Originally Posted by Imosted

For some reason religion rises and becomes more powerful at the times of economical recessions, not just USA similar thing happened in Iran back in the day and its happening in my country, poor becomes more religious in the hope for feeling better.
I guess it is the easiest way out and blame something else other than the reality...

There is a direct correlation between political disempowerment and high religiosity. The more politically disempowered a population becomes, the more the population will turn to a higher power to solve their problems, and or offer console in the form of a better life promised after the lousy one they currently live. A god sits at the top of a sociological heirarchy. "King of kings" and "Lord of lords". This god-king ultimately drops the first turd downhill. snowball effect: poor people live shitty lives. Believing in a god just empowers and emboldens corrupt governments. Horizontal distribution of power is the cure for what ails us.
Atheist= without belief
Anarchist= without rulers

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

That's one of the good things about us demon spawn athiests, we attribute natural disasters for what they are, tragic occurrances. Once you stop swaddeling human tragedy in the blanket of religiosity, take away any "supernatural agenda", human suffering and misery becomes even more palpable....

I've been an agnostic since my teens, and have slowly (not consciously) shifted from that spectrum to atheism in the sense that I don't belive the [i]Abrahamic god(s) exist.

I feel the same way (that this/these god(s)) of the Indigenous peoples, Roman gods, Greek gods and Hindu gods don't exist and were created by humans.

These disaster are tragic. But they have been happening for millions of years, and will continue to happen millions of years after we are dead.

Originally Posted by withoutrulers

There is a direct correlation between political disempowerment and high religiosity. The more politically disempowered a population becomes, the more the population will turn to a higher power to solve their problems, and or offer console in the form of a better life promised after the lousy one they currently live. A god sits at the top of a sociological heirarchy. "King of kings" and "Lord of lords". This god-king ultimately drops the first turd downhill. snowball effect: poor people live shitty lives. Believing in a god just empowers and emboldens corrupt governments. Horizontal distribution of power is the cure for what ails us.
Atheist= without belief
Anarchist= without rulers

How do you explain Russia. Their rate of atheism is extremely high and the people have full knowledge that they have very little political involvement. How do you explain highly religious tribes with no form of actual government. While there are links between goverment and religion in some ways, I fail to see your point regarding disempowerment.