Thread: Trump Sends Investigators to Hawaii

none of this will matter 12/21/12......

also the illuminati must be stopped!!!

Originally Posted by irish_2003

none of this will matter 12/21/12......

Unfortunately, I think it WILL matter. Trump is a pretty straight forward guy who doesn't tap dance around issues. He's got some no nonsense ideas I could get behind. But he's going to trivialize himself if he keeps up with this foolishness. Just let it go and concentrate on the task at hand, getting that shit bag out of the Oval Office.

Originally Posted by Prince

Trump Sends Investigators to Hawaii, Gains in GOP Presidential Primary Poll

WASHINGTON -- Real estate tycoon Donald Trump said Thursday he has real doubts about whether President Obama was born in the United States and has sent investigators to Hawaii looking for answers.

The "Celebrity Apprentice" star has shot up in the polls as a potential GOP nominee, in part on his questions about whether Obama is constitutionally allowed to be president if he doesn't prove he is a natural born citizen of the United States.

"I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding," Trump told NBC's "Today" show on Thursday.

Officials in Hawaii have certified Obama's citizenship, but a segment of society -- labeled "birthers" in the vernacular -- have demanded additional proof. Trump said when he started seriously considering a presidential bid a few weeks back, he thought the president was native-born, but now he's not so sure.

"His grandmother in Kenya said he was born in Kenya, and she was there and witnessed the birth. He doesn't have a birth certificate or he hasn't shown it. He has what's called a certificate of live birth. That is something that's easy to get," Trump said, arguing that Obama has spent $2 million in legal fees "to get away from this issue."

Calling it potentially one of the biggest scams in the history of politics, Trump said he'd like Obama to show his birth certificate.

"And to be honest with you, I hope he can," he told "Today."

Trump, who placed second in an NBC/ Wall Street Journal poll of potential 2012 Republican candidates, said he will decide by June whether to run, and if he is the GOP nominee, "I'd like to beat him straight up," not on the basis of the question of where Obama was born.

In the poll, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney leads the would-be group of contenders with 21 percent of Republican primary voters surveyed followed by Trump and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 17 percent each. The Republican primary poll was taken as part of a March 31-April 4 survey of 1,000 adults, but the sample survey of Republican primary voters polled was only 238.

In the poll, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich garnered 11 percent while former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin earned 10 percent support. Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty earned 6 percent, Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann got 5 percent, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum won 3 percent and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour received 1 percent support.

Asked in the interview how genuine his presidential ambition is, Trump, who would have to hand over the reins of his international empire in order to run the country, said, "I always take things seriously, but I've never taken it seriously like this. I wish I didn't have to do it."

But speaking on ABC News, New Jersey Republican Gov. Chris Christie, who is insistent he personally is not a candidate for president in 2012, said he wasn't sure his friend Trump would be either.

"Donald's a really good friend of mine, I don't know that Donald really wants to be president," Christie said in an interview that aired Wednesday night. Christie: I don't know that he wants that in particular. ... We've spoken about it and all I could say to you is, I’ll believe it when I see it."

Back on NBC, Trump said he wants Obama to do well but the presidency is not going that direction.

"I love this country, but this country is going to hell. ... The world laughs at us. They won't be laughing if I'm elected president," he said.

Trump accused Obama of conducting a confusing policy on the civil war in Libya, saying "nobody knows what's happening, and now it looks like (Libyan strongman Muammar) al-Qaddafi is going to beat the United States."

"I'm only interested in Libya if we get the oil," Trump said. He said Obama "doesn't have a doctrine (on foreign affairs.) Foreign affairs is, we take care of ourselves first."

I think this says it all.
Trump 2012!!

Trump does have a chance in hell, just like that little Texan billionaire Ross Perot, it takes a lot more than being rich.

What's the difference between a millionaire elitist like Obama and millionaire elitist like Trump?

Neither one give a shit about you or me so why defend either?

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Unfortunately, I think it WILL matter. Trump is a pretty straight forward guy who doesn't tap dance around issues. He's got some no nonsense ideas I could get behind. But he's going to trivialize himself if he keeps up with this foolishness. Just let it go and concentrate on the task at hand, getting that shit bag out of the Oval Office.

i'm looking forward to Trump as candidate for the right.....if you notice though i'm referring to the world ending 12/21/12!!!

Originally Posted by Big Pimpin

What's the difference between a millionaire elitist like Obama and millionaire elitist like Trump?

Neither one give a shit about you or me so why defend either?

As far as being elected the difference is Obama has a political career background (3 terms in the Senate), and a law degree from Harvard, and Trump has neither.

Originally Posted by irish_2003

i'm looking forward to Trump as candidate for the right.....if you notice though i'm referring to the world ending 12/21/12!!!

no one will take Trump serious, he is just blowing his money, but I guess he has enough money to blow, and he needs to continue feeding that huge ego.

The only thing I'll give trump credit for, is being a better choice than palin!

Wow, even the Supreme Court would except the certificate currently viewable by anyone. Sure you can get a Certificate of Live Birth in Hawaii, but they put where you were born in the spot the says Hawaii on Obama's and there has to be some proof that you were born in the place you say you were born, but that doesn't negate the fact that Officials here have seen the complete birth records and verified he was born at Kapiolani Med. The same privacy laws that protect you and I also protect our President....

Originally Posted by Prince

As far as being elected the difference is Obama has a political career background (3 terms in the Senate), and a law degree from Harvard, and Trump has neither.

And we see how bad he's fucking things up. We all seem to agree that politicians are the problem. Why don't we give a non-politician a try?

Originally Posted by Big Pimpin

What's the difference between a millionaire elitist like Obama and millionaire elitist like Trump?

Neither one give a shit about you or me so why defend either?

It's probably the biggest joke the government has ever perpetrated on the people of this country. What makes it worse is that so many can't see it even when it's staring them in the face and slapping them with a penis.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Unfortunately, I think it WILL matter. Trump is a pretty straight forward guy who doesn't tap dance around issues. He's got some no nonsense ideas I could get behind. But he's going to trivialize himself if he keeps up with this foolishness. Just let it go and concentrate on the task at hand, getting that shit bag out of the Oval Office.

believe it or not he is actually 2nd in some very reputable polls among 2012 contenders for gop slot.

people seem to like that he does not mince words like the "typical" politician.

I can see it now in the victory speech...

President Obama...youre FIRED! lol

Originally Posted by Zaphod

It's probably the biggest joke the government has ever perpetrated on the people of this country. What makes it worse is that so many can't see it even when it's staring them in the face and slapping them with a penis.

Listen Beeblebrox, the gov. does not joke, they are very serious about making sure the people of this Nation are taken care of, if if it means standing on Party Lines and yelling Red Rover Red Rover send your next Bill Over and then clothes-lining it in the neck, every once in a while a bill breaks through but you know you "can't hate the players just the game" Richard Nixon said that I think.......

Trump is a pretty straight forward guy who doesn't tap dance around issues.

Nah, his attention-whoring tactics have gotten out of hand.

Trump can't go a decade with out declaring bankruptcy, some businessman...lol

Originally Posted by LAM

Trump can't go a decade with out declaring bankruptcy, some businessman...lol

Don't mention that. We'll just ignore that little bit and pretend he's the greatest thing since Chill's mom had her tubes tied. A little too late, but at least it's done.

Originally Posted by LAM

Trump can't go a decade with out declaring bankruptcy, some businessman...lol

Again, compared to the monkeys currently controlling the purse strings he's done quite well. Instead of continually going deeper and deeper in debt, he restructures and comes out ahead.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Again, compared to the monkeys currently controlling the purse strings he's done quite well. Instead of continually going deeper and deeper in debt, he restructures and comes out ahead.

Did you just call Obama a monkey? For shame!!!!

Originally Posted by LAM

Trump can't go a decade with out declaring bankruptcy, some businessman...lol

Last I heard Trump landed on his feet and is a billion aire... once again. So far we know that, at least the man knows how to run a business. Nothing on Obama's or Bush's resume would indicate that either of them could run a supermarket, much less the federal government. Our current president won his first state senate election by having his opponents taken off the ballet through technicalities and was elected unopposed, then ran for his US senate seat against an unelectable candidate. After two years of voting "present", he runs for president. But, of course a guy like Trump, with real world success couldn't possible do better than Obama. lol Yes, we definitely need another cookie cutter politician to solve all of our problems.

Originally Posted by maniclion

Did you just call Obama a monkey? For shame!!!!

Fair is fair

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

Last I heard Trump landed on his feet and is a billion aire... once again.

not hard to do when you "start off" with Billions from daddy...a self made man Donald Trump is not

Originally Posted by ALBOB

And we see how bad he's fucking things up. We all seem to agree that politicians are the problem. Why don't we give a non-politician a try?

because we the people don't choose our president, its just an illusion. we are basically given two choices and even that is rigged. remember how all of the Florida votes were mysteriously lost and Bush won, and it just so happened that Bush's brother was the governor of Florida at the time? Al Gore beat Bush, but still did not win the election.

do you really think that a black man got the Democratic nomination because he was the most qualified? LMAO, the powers that be wanted a black (or half black) president in office, I don't know all of their reasons, but its what they wanted.

everyone in this country needs to get it thru there heads that there are a group of very rich and powerful people (the elite) that control everything, vote all you want its a waste of time, the outcome is already known.

Originally Posted by Prince

because we the people don't choose our president, its just an illusion. we are basically given two choices and even that is rigged. remember how all of the Florida votes were mysteriously lost and Bush won his second term, and it just so happened that Bush's brother was the governor of Florida at the time? Al Gore beat Bush, but still did not win the election.

do you really think that a black man got the Democratic nomination because he was the most qualified? LMAO, the powers that be wanted a black (or half black) president in office, I don't know all of their reasons, but its what they wanted.

everyone in this country needs to get it thru there heads that there are a group of very rich and powerful people (the elite) that control everything, vote all you want its a waste of time, the outcome is already known.

There's the problem: People are too boneheaded to realize what's going on.

Originally Posted by Prince

everyone in this country needs to get it thru there heads that there are a group of very rich and powerful people (the elite) that control everything, vote all you want its a waste of time, the outcome is already known.

Like religion it gives them security, you can't take away an adults security blanket as easily as you can a childs....

Originally Posted by Prince

everyone in this country needs to get it thru there heads that there are a group of very rich and powerful people (the elite) that control everything, vote all you want its a waste of time, the outcome is already known.

kind of like the markets being "free"...I guess government legislation that regulates imports and exports doesn't count. nor does monetary policy from the Fed...lol at the term "free markets"

technically free markets only exist for the micro-businessman/woman....

Originally Posted by Prince

because we the people don't choose our president, its just an illusion. we are basically given two choices and even that is rigged. remember how all of the Florida votes were mysteriously lost and Bush won his second term, and it just so happened that Bush's brother was the governor of Florida at the time? Al Gore beat Bush, but still did not win the election.

do you really think that a black man got the Democratic nomination because he was the most qualified? LMAO, the powers that be wanted a black (or half black) president in office, I don't know all of their reasons, but its what they wanted.

everyone in this country needs to get it thru there heads that there are a group of very rich and powerful people (the elite) that control everything, vote all you want its a waste of time, the outcome is already known.

Tinfoil hat or not, I vote. Does my vote make a difference? I have no idea, but I still do it. And I cast my vote for the candidates who most closely match my beliefs.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Tinfoil hat or not, I vote. Does my vote make a difference? I have no idea, but I still do it. And I cast my vote for the candidates who most closely match my beliefs.

I don't, I have much better things to be doing with my time, and in the end I know it does not matter anyway. Politics is run by big corps, like the real real wealthy guys, they get the laws passed that are in their best interest of big business and their lobbyists make it happen in Washington.