
I'm a warmonger like the next guy, but how can we sustain infinite wars abroad and declare war on the most taxed sector of our society the middle class. STOP THE WARS, PROTECT OUR BOARDERS, DEFEND THE MIDDLE CLASS!!!!!

So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
about another group that actually does something
to improve their lives.


funny I don't remember a democrat or liberal spreading supply-side economics which has pretty much fucked up the global economy, that was all Reagan. there is not one higher learing institution in the world that teaches supply-side economics, must be a reason for that...
but to be fair to Ronnie, as all presidents he was simply a tool used to put into place the economic policy's that the wealthy wanted at that time after all the social reform, etc. that occurred in the 60's and 70's. Obama was obviously selecting being a progressive in hopes to slow down the direction the US is headed in.
the reality is you don't know jack squat about your political party or economics at all if you think the markets are free here are some examples of "free markets" in the US:
ALL COMMODITIES - imports and exports are regulated by the government this means the jobs associated with these markets are also regulated.
auto industry - imports and exports are regulated by the government this means the jobs associated with these markets are also regulated...
medical field & education fields - there is only so many Dr's, teachers, etc. that the US government allows to enter the country for work, these jobs are regulated.
State licensing boards - at first glance they appear to be there to insure quality but the main reason is to limit the people from states that can do work in other states, these jobs are regulated..
the ONLY jobs that are not regulated in the US are low-skilled labor jobs...so please just STFU when it comes to this topic because you don't know jack, and it's painfully obvious by your posts...
to be technical in order for the markets to truly be free all corporations, patents and copy rights would have to be nullified and/or voided...
Last edited by LAM; 04-11-2011 at 07:32 PM.
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
Damn LAM, you've got a bigger hardon for ole Ronnie than John Hinckley did. You do realize he hasn't been in office for over 20 years, don't you?
Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???


all the economic data points to the economic policy's started under Reagan...
they economists over the world have been righting about it for the past 20 years easy.
the first graph shows incomes from Post WWII 1945 to 1982. Reagan was elected in 81 this allows one year for some of his economic policy's regarding taxes, banking, etc. to take effect.
Home | State of Working America
the second graph shows incomes from 1982 to 2008
Home | State of Working America
* I rest my case about "supply-side economics"
Last edited by LAM; 04-11-2011 at 08:03 PM.
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

Lam is a complete Moron when it comes to Politics. He's a far left socialist left wing liberal that probably thunks Barry is a God or something withoiut a doubt.Its people like him that ruin this country with there ideology there beliefs when there all trash and America is a right wing country.


Last edited by LAM; 04-14-2011 at 09:28 AM.
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.


Last edited by LAM; 04-14-2011 at 08:53 AM.
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

New to politics? The two sides differ drastically, so there will be a debate about every issue (e.g. "This War is Lost"). The Republicans routed the Dems in the last election because of the spending was out of control. They have an obligation to cut spending. It's not a matter of just doing everything President Soetoro wants, its about containing a HUGE spender.
I am not sure where you are going with this. What is your idea of an utopian society? What scale does it slide under - Communist? Socialist? Democracy? What I see you leaning towards from reading many of your posts is between socialist/communist. If thats your thing, then fine, be proud of it I guess. You know what else comes with those perks you seem to want - the devil is in the details.


that is your take...I know that you can not apply economic theory from the 1700-1800's to the year 2011 when the "free markets" are no longer free but the exact opposite...
I know that in the works of any classical economist they do not take into account what happens when company's stop working for their consumers and change the focus to pleasing shareholders.
nor do any of the classical economists take into account the human condition, greed or when company's become more powerful than governments...
nor do they address monetary policy...what happens when those making low skilled-labor wages longer lose purchasing power..remember people that make labor wages do not earn a profit on these wages
I also know that if the government in collusion with corporations cause American citizens to lose wealth and jobs the government has to help rectify the problem that they helped cause..
Last edited by LAM; 04-14-2011 at 03:15 PM.
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
Jesus christ.. there you go in another thread about corporations directly responsible for the woes of the republic and the little people. Hey, just to let you know, my corporation that reaps evil profits pays my salary and many thousands of others. You said the government is in 'collusion' with corporations. Ok, I can understand that. The government is in collusion with other foreign governments. The government is in collusion with unions. The government is in collusion with their own (polititions, generally). The government is in collusion with fringe groups. The government is in collusion with the U.N. The government is in collusion with lobbiests that represent every goddamn thing that can be represented including NAMBLA. Something is the same.. can't put my finger on it though.
Why are you going into economic theories of the 1700's and 1800's. I would rather talk about the advantages of hot women dressed school uniforms that act naughty and want spankings. It's better than 200 yr old economics.
Let's just change the thread to this subject. Less stress and A+ eye candy.
And once again you point out the fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals. We both agree the government caused the problem. But liberals think the government is the fix while conservatives think the government getting out of the way is the fix. We'll probably never agree.
P.S. Except about school girls. If we can't agree about school girls we should just launch all the nukes now.
Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???


that's were you are mistaken...liberals do not think that government is the fix we know that it HAS to be part of the solution because it helped cause the problem. human history combined with the results of the American Jobs Creation Act of 2004 proves that company's will not make the changes unless they are forced to...letting a bunch of sociopathic CEO's and hedge fund managers determine the fate of the American people isn't even a viable option...
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

You are retarded thats all Liberals beleive is that Gov is the fix more Gov more Gov,spend more. One day soon you will have to take your tounge out of Barrys assthat's were you are mistaken...liberals do not think that government is the fix
Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???


the government is no different than any other organization it can function at high or low levels of efficiency depending on how it's run. when it is run by a bunch of self serving sociopaths you end up with what we have today.
by saying that government is the problem you are also saying that corporations are the problem as they were created by the government...neither one can function with out the other and the government is the only thing that protects the people from corporations.
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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