Thread: Obama's Cyber ID

This is a good thing. Now more people will venture outside, and rediscover happiness.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Obama is not only backing a cyber ID (good bye anonymity), but he's putting the Department of Commerce in charge of it.

Yeah, I'm sure this will no way be abused by the government and their MPAA/RIAA bed-buddies.

So, for all you Obama followers, keep sucking that black cock.

Come on, this is old news, the government has wanted this for 10 years now, stop blaming Obama.


ACLU Calls on President Bush to Disavow New Cyber-Spying Scheme That Seeks to Put Every American Under Scrutiny
November 14, 2002

WASHINGTON - The American Civil Liberties Union today called on President Bush to disavow a new system being developed at the Pentagon that would be able to track every American's activities.

"Smile, you're on virtual candid camera," said Laura W. Murphy, Director of the ACLU's Washington National Office. "If the Pentagon has its way, every American - from the Nebraskan farmer to the Wall Street banker - will find themselves under the accusatory cyber-stare of an all-powerful national security apparatus."

The Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency is developing the system, which it has dubbed "Total Information Awareness," in its Information Awareness Office. That office is directed by former Reagan Administration official John Poindexter, who once said that it was his duty as the national security advisor to withhold information from Congress.
The Total Information Awareness program will be -- by Poindexter's own public admission -- the infrastructure for what the government hopes will be the most extensive electronic surveillance system in history. That vision is encapsulated in the logo for Poindexter's office: the all-seeing eye and pyramid (prominent also on the one dollar bill) spying from above on the entire world. The office's motto is Scientia Est Potentia, Latin for "Knowledge is Power."

The ACLU concerns are somewhat similar to those expressed today by "card-carrying conservative" New York Times columnist William Safire that the program is a "supersnoop's dream."

The Total Information Awareness program would use the technology called data-mining - which is totally untested in the national security context -- to ostensibly detect terrorist threats before they occur. Data-mining, currently used by private industry to track buying habits and target telemarketers, among other things, involves the computerized scrutiny of vast amounts of unrelated information in the hope of finding patterns that can predict future behavior.

But the Total Information Awareness program goes further than any corporate cyber-snooping: it would link a huge number of commercial and governmental databases, both in America and overseas. These databases could presumably range from student grades to mental health histories to travel records.

"Just as he scaled back the program that would have had neighbors spying on neighbors, President Bush must stop the Total Information Awareness program now," said Katie Corrigan, an ACLU Legislative Counsel. "And if he refuses to act, Congress should step in quickly and pull the plug on this dangerous idea."

ACLU Calls on President Bush to Disavow New Cyber-Spying Scheme That Seeks to Put Every American Under Scrutiny | American Civil Liberties Union

Originally Posted by Prince

Come on, this is old news, the government has wanted this for 10 years now, stop blaming Obama.

Oh, sure. Just because his "open", "no special interest groups", "respecting the people" administration is still pushing it forward in no way reflects on him and absolves him of everything.

Right...

Originally Posted by DOMS

Oh, sure. Just because his "open", "no special interest groups", "respecting the people" administration is still pushing it forward in no way reflects on him and absolves him of everything.

Right...

No, I am just pointing out that this was not Obama's idea, they were pushing for it over 10 years ago.

Originally Posted by Prince

Come on, this is old news, the government has wanted this for 10 years now, stop blaming Obama.

the right can't get over the civil war Prince anything that has to do with government is bad, with the exception of corporations which of course were the creation of government...

regarding the ID, it will be voluntary and the originally purpose was to fight online theft, reduce id theft, etc.

the fact that the dept of commerce indorses it scares me, because they also support outsourcing jobs, etc. which tells me it's bad for most they way it will probably be used...

If this is all it is then I don't think its that bad of an idea actually.

"We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy, and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

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I'm pretty pissed off about it. Obama didn't start it, but he sure as hell doesn't seem to be doing anything about it either. I hoped that when I voted for him to get away from the type of government that wanted to be all up in my fucking business. You could say the patriot act was to stop terrorism, but wasn't until secure email systems started being compromised in order to hunt down UG steroid labs that people started to understand how those policies would be abused.

Regarding this thread topic, all you conservative Obama bashers can suck a bag of assorted black AND white cocks, because you didn't have a fucking problem with invasion of privacy when Bush started steaming rolling civil liberties and privacy with the patriot act. Now that Obama is doing more of the same, now it is a big fucking deal to you.

Fucking self delusional assholes! It's your fucking fault! I could go back 6 years digging through my previous posts and find where I warned about this shit, but NOOOOOO, everybody was too fucking busy waving their fruity ass flags and singing songs about freedom to see the direction that shit was going.

Originally Posted by Prince

If this is all it is then I don't think its that bad of an idea actually.



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It's a good thing the government never pervert "I don't think its that bad of an idea[s]". Ever.

Just like how SSN numbers weren't meant to track individuals. It's a good thing that never did that.

Obama also gave a firm directive to the DEA to stop busting marijuana growers, and they continued doing it despite his orders, does Obama (or any president) really have any power? Obama also said the federal government does not need to be wasting time, money and resources fighting steroids in sports, its not a federal government issue according to him. But again that has not stopped anything or any government agencies either.

Originally Posted by KelJu

Regarding this thread topic, all you conservative Obama bashers can suck a bag of assorted black AND white cocks, because you didn't have a fucking problem with invasion of privacy when Bush started steaming rolling civil liberties and privacy with the patriot act. Now that Obama is doing more of the same, now it is a big fucking deal to you.

Fucking self delusional assholes! It's your fucking fault! I could go back 6 years digging through my previous posts and find where I warned about this shit, but NOOOOOO, everybody was too fucking busy waving their fruity ass flags and singing songs about freedom to see the direction that shit was going.

It's almost like your sucking your own cock. "Look how great is it. Mrrrphfr."

I'm a conservative and have never backed the Patriot Act. I didn't back GWB's attempt to take away American rights and I don't support Obama either.

Originally Posted by Prince

Obama also gave a firm directive to the DEA to stop busting marijuana growers, and they continued doing it despite his orders, does Obama (or any president) really have any power? Obama also said the federal government does not need to be wasting time, money and resources fighting steroids in sports, its not a federal government issue according to him. But again that has not stopped anything or any government agencies either.

What he says he will do is often different from what he actually does.

Originally Posted by DOMS

What he says he will do is often different from what he actually does.

I am sure I can find articles to back up those two issues I posted about MJ and AAS, he specifically told the DEA to back off and they pretty much said fuck you.

Originally Posted by Prince

I am sure I can find articles to back up those two issues I posted about MJ and AAS, he specifically told the DEA to back off and they pretty much said fuck you.

If he actually said that, great, but he's done so many other things to rob citizens of their rights. With the exception of skin color and speaking ability, he pretty much is GWB.