Thread: would you stay in America if........??????

I have been contemplating getting out of here for the last couple years. It has nothing to do with communism or socialism, it has to do with corporatism, and it's ruining the country. If it weren't so cold in Canada I would already live there. Europe would be great since you get like 6 weeks vacation every year, Mexico is a non-starter because their medical system is shit. This past weekend I watched a guy drown in a pool down in Playa Del Carmen. When he came to he couldn't really talk (He actually passed out in the pool from drinking), but the paramedics refused to take him without an ID AND a credit card. They also had him in an arm bar submission trying to take his pulse.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I have been contemplating getting out of here for the last couple years. It has nothing to do with communism or socialism, it has to do with corporatism, and it's ruining the country. If it weren't so cold in Canada I would already live there. Europe would be great since you get like 6 weeks vacation every year, Mexico is a non-starter because their medical system is shit. This past weekend I watched a guy drown in a pool down in Playa Del Carmen. When he came to he couldn't really talk (He actually passed out in the pool from drinking), but the paramedics refused to take him without an ID AND a credit card. They also had him in an arm bar submission trying to take his pulse.

Go to places like costa rica, panama or belize etc.which have excellent medical care and cheap. ( they have a national health insurance and doctors practice privately) Remember, even rush limbaugh wanted to go there for their excellent medical care. I am in the process of buying property in Belize or costa rica, ( I can by property overlooking the ocean in belize for half the price of what some chintzy McMansions ) in belize, english is the official language so I can technically continue to practice medicine but I am finally learning spanish.

He estado apprendiendo espanol por cinco meses usando una programma llamada Claro Inititiative. In other words, I plan on becoming proficient in a 7th language through a phenomenol course paid for by the AMA called the Claro inititiative ( it costs 3 grand) . Five hours a week on the computer and 1 hour of one on one skype tutorial with a native speaker doing only conversation for 10 months. They gaurantee 90% verbal fluency in 10 months.

These countries have many expats who are doctors like myself who have nothing but rave reviews for their quality of medical care.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

Go to places like costa rica, panama or belize etc.which have excellent medical care and cheap. ( they have a national health insurance and doctors practice privately) Remember, even rush limbaugh wanted to go there for their excellent medical care and it is cheap. I am in the process of looking to buy property in Belize or costa rica, in belize, english is the official language so I can technically continue to practice medicine but I am finally learning spanish.

He estado apprendiendo espanol por cinco meses usando una programma llamada Claro Inititiative. In other words, I plan on becoming proficient in a 7th language through a phenomenol course paid for by the AMA called the Claro inititiative ( it costs 3 grand) . Five hours a week on the computer and 1 hour of one on one skype tutorial with a native speaker doing only conversation for 10 months. They gaurantee 90% verbal fluency in 10 months.

These countries have many expats who are doctors like myself who have nothing but rave reviews for their quality of medical care.

Hmmm, just wikipedia'd it. Sounds like an awesome place, doesn't sound like a place where my services would fare very well in providing me cashflow.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Hmmm, just wikipedia'd it. Sounds like an awesome place, doesn't sound like a place where my services would fare very well in providing me cashflow.

Even in the age of telecommunication? Not sure what your profession is. I'm lucky since an American trained physician is universally highly coveted in most parts of the world.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

Even in the age of telecommunication? Not sure what your profession is. I'm lucky since an American trained physician is universally highly coveted in most parts of the world.

I'm sort of a personal trainer, but more holisitic, I guess. My primary goal is to monitor and optimize autonomic nervous system tone to make my clients healthier, sick less, more energy, happy, stress-free, etc.. I also do tons of corrective exercise because I've found a pretty good correlation with poor posture and allostatic load. If you can think of a name for what I do that would be great, because I hate calling myself a personal trainer as I think it doesn't really describe what I do.

Originally Posted by Vick

Minorities make up most of the prison because Americans would rather pay less for an illegal than an american that knows the employment laws.

Illegal immigration has little to do with the prison population, which is largely black, and many of the incarcerated hispanics are actually American citizens.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with culture which is loosely approximated by race. There is a subculture in America that doesn't value education or hard work or self-reliance, and doesn't respect the institution of marriage or the criminal justice system. This subculture includes people from every race, albeit in different percentages. This is a phenomenon that we created by a welfare system which, up until about 1995, had no time limits for receipt of benefits and provided incentives for people to have children that they couldn't support. We turned the social safety net into a hammock, and then act surprised when people are content to lay in it indefinitely and leach off the productive segment of society. Our current President is on record saying he would have opposed Clinton's bipartisan welfare reform of 1995.

Originally Posted by clemson357

Illegal immigration has little to do with the prison population, which is largely black, and many of the incarcerated hispanics are actually American citizens.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with culture which is loosely approximated by race. There is a subculture in America that doesn't value education or hard work or self-reliance, and doesn't respect the institution of marriage or the criminal justice system. This subculture includes people from every race, albeit in different percentages. This is a phenomenon that we created by a welfare system which, up until about 1995, had no time limits for receipt of benefits and provided incentives for people to have children that they couldn't support. We turned the social safety net into a hammock, and then act surprised when people are content to lay in it indefinitely and leach off the productive segment of society. Our current President is on record saying he would have opposed Clinton's bipartisan welfare reform of 1995.

I do believe the slave trade was illegal immigration
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Originally Posted by clemson357

Illegal immigration has little to do with the prison population, which is largely black, and many of the incarcerated hispanics are actually American citizens.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with culture which is loosely approximated by race. There is a subculture in America that doesn't value education or hard work or self-reliance, and doesn't respect the institution of marriage or the criminal justice system. This subculture includes people from every race, albeit in different percentages. This is a phenomenon that we created by a welfare system which, up until about 1995, had no time limits for receipt of benefits and provided incentives for people to have children that they couldn't support. We turned the social safety net into a hammock, and then act surprised when people are content to lay in it indefinitely and leach off the productive segment of society. Our current President is on record saying he would have opposed Clinton's bipartisan welfare reform of 1995.

Yes, they're called Republicans.

If you don't want to stay in America you can always move to Portugal...

I'll change places with any one

Originally Posted by Robalo

If you don't want to stay in America you can always move to Portugal...

I'll change places with any one

Really man.my wife wants to go there, she's from Brazil and can become a citizen there but I can't. I'll trade identification with ya lol

Originally Posted by Vick

Really man.my wife wants to go there, she's from Brazil and can become a citizen there but I can't. I'll trade identification with ya lol

Well, to become a european citizen and go to other places in Europe is a good move, but if it is to stay here, just don't do it for the next ten years because the shit is hitting the fan and this is all going down

watching John Stossel's program on Fox News right now and how they explained Hong Kong it's sounding very enticing to move there......i need to do more research

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I'm sort of a personal trainer, but more holisitic, I guess. My primary goal is to monitor and optimize autonomic nervous system tone to make my clients healthier, sick less, more energy, happy, stress-free, etc.. I also do tons of corrective exercise because I've found a pretty good correlation with poor posture and allostatic load. If you can think of a name for what I do that would be great, because I hate calling myself a personal trainer as I think it doesn't really describe what I do.

You're a witch doctor, they love them down in South America.....

Originally Posted by Robalo

Well, to become a european citizen and go to other places in Europe is a good move, but if it is to stay here, just don't do it for the next ten years because the shit is hitting the fan and this is all going down

Yeah I heard Portugal and Greece are bankrupt, no jobs. Wish you the best man, maybe you can start an exporting business