Thread: Gas tops $3.90 nationwide

Originally Posted by PreMier

paid 4.47 a gallon for premium/non ethanol here

Ya, I just paid $3.94 the other day for 94, but it has jumped 10 cents since then because someone in the middle east sneezed.

Originally Posted by hoyle21

Funny how the big push was "save a tree use a plastic bag", wait just a fucking moment, we can plant more trees. You can't make more oil.

True, though I have been using fabric bags since the 1990s because when I was an analytical chemistat the time , I was on a team in charge trying to find ways to minimize the use of petroleum products in making plastic bags or medicine bottles etc. This is why COSTCO is brilliant in not using plastic bags ( when you shop there no plastic bags) they save hundreds of millions of dollars. In this sense, going green is actually cost saving, unlike some other measures. As for running out, we are and no free market gimic is going to make more oil, only come up with ways not to use it.

Op-Ed: International Energy Agency says oil supplies really drying up

But IEA chief economist Fatih Birol says the world's crude oil production peaked in 2006.
He says oil prices are likely to rise 30 per cent over the next three years.
"The existing fields are declining so sharply that in order to stay where we are in terms of production levels in the next 25 years, we have to find and develop four new Saudi Arabias," he said.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/articl...#ixzz1L7msPbDz

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

True, though I have been using fabric bags since the 1990s because when I was an analytical chemistat the time , I was on a team in charge trying to find ways to minimize the use of petroleum products in making plastic bags or medicine bottles etc. This is why COSTCO is brilliant in not using plastic bags ( when you shop there no plastic bags) they save hundreds of millions of dollars. In this sense, going green is actually cost saving, unlike some other measures. As for running out, we are and no free market gimic is going to make more oil, only come up with ways not to use it.

Op-Ed: International Energy Agency says oil supplies really drying up

being that the US consumes 25% of the world's crude oil (for now, China will surpass the US soon). I wonder how much of that is used in the manufacturing of plastics, etc.?

remember , ethane and propane are "cracked" into ethylene and propylene. We have plastics in cars, computers and with OSHA standards, many many medical packaging, supplies, hospital sterility measures such as seals, etc. WHen I was a chemist I was told it was 10% of all imported petroleum, I'm sure with disposable packaging exponentially rising, etc. it is much more but I don't know how to look it up.