Thread: Group collects signatures to gain approval to legalize medical marijuana in Arkansas

MJ can't remain schedule I for much longer!

Problem is I have heard that those that get the prescriptions for it, the insurance companies drop their coverage on that person. Not sure if true or not.

Originally Posted by otis332

Problem is I have heard that those that get the prescriptions for it, the insurance companies drop their coverage on that person. Not sure if true or not.

that wouldn't surprise me but actually you would think they would increase the premium vs being cancelled. I know when I got my term life policy with state farm in 2000 they put me in with the smokers because I test + for THC. The agent actually took a swab right there in the office.

the US is the only country held hostage by a health care system..fuking ridiculous. I though for profit company's were supposed to work for their customers not the share holders.

Originally Posted by LAM

that wouldn't surprise me but actually you would think they would increase the premium vs being cancelled. I know when I got my term life policy with state farm in 2000 they put me in with the smokers because I test + for THC. The agent actually took a swab right there in the office.

the US is the only country held hostage by a health care system..fuking ridiculous. I though for profit company's were supposed to work for their customers not the share holders.

Wait, you mean for profit health insurance companies don't care about their customers? Surely you jest.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Wait, you mean for profit health insurance companies don't care about their customers? Surely you jest.

Dale take a look at the graphs below:

Originally Posted by LAM

Dale take a look at the graphs below:

Even if they removed the for-profit nature of our healthcare system, people still don't take good enough care of themselves to cause a significant dent in our healthcare costs. How much money do you think could be saved by the individual AND whoever is providing the insurance if the individual cuts out processed/sugar and exercises now rather than going on Metformin, getting bariatirc surgery, having a stroke/heart attack in 10-20 years? The way we practice medicine is horrible. We are taught that we don't have to take care of ourselves, we just need to take a pill and it's business as usual. Then you die at 62 of diabetes. But, I do agree that this is a socioeconomic thing as well. People in the middle/lower classes don't have access to good care and go in to a big hole when they get sick, typically too big to climb out of. In addition, if you take a look at the Whitehall Study that looked at socio-economic determinants of health, holding nearly everything else constant (Including healthcare), people lower on the rungs get sicker more, experience cardiovascular disease and a 3x higher mortality rate. If you factor in the lesser care you get from being middle/lower class in the states, I would expect it to be much higher. Still, IMO you are your first line of defense in living a healthy life, and whether insurance is provided by the gov or for-profit companies is a much smaller factor than what you put in your body and your activity level.

Whitehall Study - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

The way we practice medicine is horrible. We are taught that we don't have to take care of ourselves, we just need to take a pill and it's business as usual. Then you die at 62 of diabetes. But, I do agree that this is a socioeconomic thing as well. People in the middle/lower classes don't have access to good care and go in to a big hole when they get sick, typically too big to climb out of. In addition, if you take a look at the Whitehall Study that looked at socio-economic determinants of health, holding nearly everything else constant (Including healthcare), people lower on the rungs get sicker more, experience cardiovascular disease and a 3x higher mortality rate. If you factor in the lesser care you get from being middle/lower class in the states, I would expect it to be much higher. Still, IMO you are your first line of defense in living a healthy life, and whether insurance is provided by the gov or for-profit companies is a much smaller factor than what you put in your body and your activity level.

Whitehall Study - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

below are some numbers from a Gallup pole in 2008:

Approximately 6 in 10 Americans indicate they regularly engage in moderate exercise (59% in 2007); about half as many regularly engage in vigorous exercise (32%); and about half as many as that report doing regular weight training (15%).

Personally I think those numbers are inflated. I also know that the majority of people that do are not exercising at high enough levels of intensity to ever reap the benefits. for those that are heart healthy, exercise isn't supposed to be easy.

It surely doesn't help when they have reduced Phys Ed in primary to 1-2 hrs a week in many areas. When I was in elementary school there was literally one fat kid and one fat girl in our grade. now you see packs of these little heifers wobbling around and they all have rolls and bulges.

Originally Posted by LAM

Dale take a look at the graphs below:

Those last two, especially the last one pisses me off. The second to last, glad to see the tuition hikes. This is absurd - just to get a higher education, we are bent over a barrel bigtime. The last one, you and I both know that the life expectancy and related cost hikes do not compute in a country infested with cheeto eating fatasses. If I had to justify the extra costs (big if), it's making new drugs and performing procedures just to keep them from keeling over by age 50. Just saying.

Originally Posted by LAM

below are some numbers from a Gallup pole in 2008:

Approximately 6 in 10 Americans indicate they regularly engage in moderate exercise (59% in 2007); about half as many regularly engage in vigorous exercise (32%); and about half as many as that report doing regular weight training (15%).

Personally I think those numbers are inflated. I also know that the majority of people that do are not exercising at high enough levels of intensity to ever reap the benefits. for those that are heart healthy, exercise isn't supposed to be easy.

It surely doesn't help when they have reduced Phys Ed in primary to 1-2 hrs a week in many areas. When I was in elementary school there was literally one fat kid and one fat girl in our grade. now you see packs of these little heifers wobbling around and they all have rolls and bulges.

If you regularly engage in moderate or vigorous exercise 7 hours a week, way more than most, that still leaves 161 hours of laying on your ass.

if they ever reversed the laws on MDMA i'd become a psychiatrist so i could study it!!!

Originally Posted by phosphor

The second to last, glad to see the tuition hikes. This is absurd - just to get a higher education, we are bent over a barrel bigtime.

considering that wages in most markets have been stagnant for decades, the unemployment rate for college graduates is 10% right now and student loan default rates have been increasing the past decade, the college degree for many is not an investment anymore but a loss. since our economy has shifted to being service oriented and away from manufacturing "educated" people are in less demand.

NCAA brackets are also based on tuition rates which just adds fuel to the fire.

Check out the doc that I attached it's from the 2010 Census Report on Capital Spending. Basically there has been almost no investment in the US over the past decade.