Thread: One in seven Americans now on food stamps

Meanwhile, at the Fresh-Jive Supamarket:

Juanika interupts Shawnaynay, who was on the phone, "Shawnaynay, what da fuq did I jus-see yoo doo??"

Pissed off for being interupted, she replies "Whadafuck, Juanika! I was on the phone wit my baby-daddy - He is rollin to ma crib tonights! Gunna see if I can get a RAISE from the gub-ment in nine months! tehehaw!"

Juanika replies,"Well, dat is all fines and shit, but why da fuck did you just use to pay for all dat chikin and buddah?"

Shawnaynay replies, "Well, my cardsyall maxed out an shit, so I's had to use cash, bitch! What else'mi gunna use?"

Juanika, genuinely shocked, replies, "You's a dum bitch! Hawhaw! Don't you know?! Get some muthafuckin foodstamps and shit! Honey, it's all free! Let me tells you whats to do!"...

and the cycle continues to grow...

I'm glad you posted this Prince, I've been wanting to post some data that I have.

* All the numbers below are in thousands

2000 Below Poverty - Total 31,139

White 21,645
Non-Hispanic 14,366
Black 7,982
Asian & Pacifi Islander 1,258
Hispanic 7,747

Source: US Census Poverty in the United States: 2000

2009 Below Poverty - Total 43,569

White 29,830
Non-Hispanic 18,530
Black 9,944
Asian & Pacifi Islander 1,746
Hispanic 12,350

* From 2005-2009 2.2% of the population was living in poverty all 48
months.

The number of people in poverty in 2009 (43.6 million) is the largest number in the 51 years for which poverty estimates have been published.

In 1980, government transfer payments accounted for just 11.7% of all

income. Today, government transfer payments account for 18.4% of all

income.

Source: US Census Poverty in the United States: 2009

Originally Posted by Prince

In New York City, mayor Michael Bloomberg wants to fight the obesity and diabetes epidemics by banning food stamp users from buying soft drinks or other "sugar-sweetened beverages."

This is exactly what happens with socialist institutions. There's always a price to pay. The more you depend on someone the more control they have over you. If you depend on them for food they tell you what to eat. If you depend on them for housing they tell you how to live. Socialism produces comfortable slaves.

It's time to stand up for the consumer's right to eat healthy - regardless of income.

No it isn't.

What makes me shake my head in disgust is the vast number of people who think that everyone on government assistance is a low-life degenerate who doesn't want to work.

Originally Posted by Zaphod

What makes me shake my head in disgust is the vast number of people who think that everyone on government assistance is a low-life degenerate who doesn't want to work.

it's the same BS the far right has been doing since day 1. conservative ideology is basically racist, they only want white Christians to succeed in the US. you don' think they would actually take the time to look at some data then form an opinion do you? far to easy to simply talk out of your ass repeating the same rehtoric year after year with no data at all to support their bias.

Originally Posted by Zaphod

What makes me shake my head in disgust is the vast number of people who think that everyone on government assistance is a low-life degenerate who doesn't want to work.

Either side of this argument is the wrong side. It doesn't matter how much they want to work.

it's the same BS the far right has been doing since day 1. conservative ideology is basically racist, they only want white Christians to succeed in the US. you don' think they would actually take the time to look at some data then form an opinion do you? far to easy to simply talk out of your ass repeating the same rehtoric year after year with no data at all to support their bias.

The far right(laissez faire capitalism) has nothing to do ideologically with being socially conservative. However leftists need to believe and present the argument as if the two are one and the same.

There's a joke:
'What do you call a conservative who's winning an argument with a liberal?'...
'A racist'

They repeat this rhetoric because they need to, it's a crutch. They can't help themselves. Everything they oppose is labeled as being derived from either ignorance, hate or fear; or some subset - such as racism being part of hate. Typically they can't argue the principle, or even think to, so the tactic is to simply label those who hold it as evil and then correlate that to the ideology.

There is no day 1 and some of the greatest proponents of the 'right' have been atheists. The stale leftists are the ones preaching their antiquated philosophy, pushing their morality on the masses. The supposed altruists and utilitarians hopefully will soon be dispensed of with more people moving further and further away from the morality of religions that once bred it. The altruist still needs a sacrificial lamb to save the weak.

Want to know my secret? I live in a very diverse city so instead of going to the name brand commercial supermarkets I go to the 3rd world markets lol. Like Presidente , Food Giant and Sedanos are a few. These are where all the hispanic, haitian and islanders style of food is sold. Like chickens feet, cow tongue, a whole pig, pickled pigs feet and other parts of the animal that make me gag. But they do sell "normal" food too, like chicken, fish, crab, shrimp, beef, ribs and veggies. But good luck finding anyone who speaks English, but I make due.

I cant pull up the numbers of the price comparison but everything is 1, 2, even 4 dollars cheaper, depending on what you buy. I can buy a whole chicken for 2-3bucks per pound cheaper than at a name brand store. Even veggies are cheaper.

I dont worry about the quality of the meats or produce because like all restaurants, grocery stores or fast food joins they all need to follow USDA and FDA sanitary food handling rules and regulations. Such as temp handling and cross meat contamination (I know the FDA is all fucked up lets not get off topic here. They do at least try to keep the food from killing us) So what I do is buy a shit load of meats, pop it in the freezer it and make it last.

Another way is to go like BJs or Costco. But I can only find a few items that are eatable and worthy of the bulk price.

Originally Posted by Prince

One in seven Americans now on food stamps
May 07, 2011 by: M.K. Tyler...14.3 percent of the population still needs assistance in order to put dinner on the table.

That's and a huge percentage and pretty fucked up! Not even mentioning how many of those families with children.
That right there is a HUGE RED flag. We're in deep shit.

Good post Prince.

Originally Posted by troubador

The stale leftists are the ones preaching their antiquated philosophy, pushing their morality on the masses.

you may want to actually look up the definition of conservative before you talk about an antiquated philosophy or belief system. your failed neo-liberal economic policies have ruined the country but yet you insist they will also save it, despite all empirical data and US economic history showing the exact opposite.

Originally Posted by Zaphod

What makes me shake my head in disgust is the vast number of people who think that everyone on government assistance is a low-life degenerate who doesn't want to work.

You exaggerate to make your point. I do not think everyone on food stamps is a low-life degenerate - but the majority are. They all spread the freebie information of a new program around to their friends and family like it's the gospel. I worked around the low life losers enough of all colors to know the truth of it. The people that set them up on the free services encourage them every step of the way to take as much as possible and encourage them to spread the word as well.

Living in your bubble doesn't make the problem go away. Just go on and keep shaking your head.

"I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer."
— Benjamin Franklin

Originally Posted by LAM

it's the same BS the far right has been doing since day 1. conservative ideology is basically racist, they only want white Christians to succeed in the US. you don' think they would actually take the time to look at some data then form an opinion do you? far to easy to simply talk out of your ass repeating the same rehtoric year after year with no data at all to support their bias.

I am sure you can pull a stat out your ass to show that conservatives only want white christians to succeed? - or are you pulling that statement out of your ass? Sounds like the same 'conservatives are racists' rhetoric you and your buddies parrot year after year. Keep slinging mud, year after year, eventually it will stick, right?

Originally Posted by phosphor

You exaggerate to make your point. I do not think everyone on food stamps is a low-life degenerate - but the majority are.

The vast majority of poor (not just in the USA) deserve to be poor. They do nothing to improve their station. At most, they complain about how unfair life is. Some, mostly blacks, also feel a sense of entitlement based on that belief.

Originally Posted by LAM

you may want to actually look up the definition of conservative before you talk about an antiquated philosophy or belief system. your failed neo-liberal economic policies have ruined the country but yet you insist they will also save it, despite all empirical data and US economic history showing the exact opposite.

I'm not conservative. I didn't insist my policies will save anything. Again you illustrate the inability of the senile left to see past their imaginary opposition.

even if the government wanted to tell shaniqua and shanaynay to go fuck themselves they won't because the kids in the situation will suffer. the government should say hey you want a car, a stereo etc buy American or go without. THAT would create jobs and money that actually stays here. it might also make it so our citizens can actually make better shit than they do in some 3rd world sweat shop. too bad no politician has the balls to actually do anything big.

when i was little they didn't have food stamps and i remember the government handing out really shitty food to the needy, which we sometimes were. nasty ass canned pork etc. IF the jobs are there to lift people out of poverty THEN the government goes back to passing out horrid food instead of letting people buy frozen pizza etc it just might inspire people to work. but i can't see ragging on people for not working when everything we buy gave someone across the big water a job and not an American.

sometimes it's whole towns at once that end up in need. I moved away from Millinocket after the mills went under. i saw people who never took a dime of charity have to or starve. people were used to making big money there and then it was just gone. they had homes and property but who can sell that in a dead town? you could buy a great house for ten grand. retired people saw thier kids and grandkids move away to areas were they could find work... it's not always the don't want to work people that end up needing help. somehow it's sadder when it hits a man that worked his ass off most of his life just to get fucked in the ass.

when those mills went under and were sold people lost their insurance too. my stepdad worked his whole life to have what he has and then my mom's illness has made hanging onto it a bitter struggle. fucking sucks.

Originally Posted by phosphor

I am sure you can pull a stat out your ass to show that conservatives only want white christians to succeed? - or are you pulling that statement out of your ass?

when one chooses to discredit or disregard all of the economic data from the past 40-50 years what would be the logical explanation for that?

Originally Posted by Little Wing

I moved away from Millinocket after the mills went under. i saw people who never took a dime of charity have to or starve.

I had a buddy in the Navy that was from east millinocket he said the town was so small the high school didn't have a cafeteria and everyone walked home to eat lunch. is that true?

There is a famous entertainment lawyer here in atlanta named lovett that went from attending the grammy's in a limousine to requiring food stamps for his family and putting his two kids on medicaid so they could have health insurance, ( and no, he is not black). The irony is he is still practicing law out of his basement but still needs food stamps. It is sad because I have patients who swore they would never go on them, now accept the fact that they have to ( and hopefully it will be temporary)

Originally Posted by troubador

I'm not conservative. I didn't insist my policies will save anything. Again you illustrate the inability of the senile left to see past their imaginary opposition.

yea it's so imaginary the FRB writes reports on the subject....

Metropolitan vs. Non-Metropolitan Trends in Earnings Inequality and Education
Research Division - Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
http://research.stlouisfed.org/berg/wheeler.pdf

Originally Posted by LAM

I had a buddy in the Navy that was from east millinocket he said the town was so small the high school didn't have a cafeteria and everyone walked home to eat lunch. is that true?

maybe at the time but it has one now. according to local folklore East Millinocket is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as
the only town in the United States, perhaps even the world, built entirely on one side of the main thoroughfare.

What's interesting is the high level of food stamp use in the south and appilacheans where the anti-government/anti safety net politcians elected by its citizens is out of sync with how people really live — and how most are willing to accept government help if they need it.

generally metropolitan areas carry the outlying rural areas and the northern states carry the southern states. with the exception of texas all the US global 500 company's are located in the North.

Originally Posted by phosphor

You exaggerate to make your point. I do not think everyone on food stamps is a low-life degenerate - but the majority are. They all spread the freebie information of a new program around to their friends and family like it's the gospel. I worked around the low life losers enough of all colors to know the truth of it. The people that set them up on the free services encourage them every step of the way to take as much as possible and encourage them to spread the word as well.

Living in your bubble doesn't make the problem go away. Just go on and keep shaking your head.

"I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer."
— Benjamin Franklin

Come on now, there is no way you could know that a majority of people on food stamps are slackers. If 1 in 7 are on food stamps, and there are 300 million people in the US, that would mean 45 million are on food stamps. Even if you knew 1000 people who were scamming the food stamp program in whatever backward ass shit town you live in, that's still only .002% of the population scamming the system. I know people scam the system, but I would bet it's less than 5-10%. I do agree with your quote, though.

Originally Posted by LAM

yea it's so imaginary the FRB writes reports on the subject....

That's a mess of a sentence. Clearly there is opposition to the left. That opposition just isn't in the form the left likes to imagine it is.

Originally Posted by LAM

generally metropolitan areas carry the outlying rural areas and the northern states carry the southern states. with the exception of texas all the US global 500 company's are located in the North.

Wal-mart is in the one spot. The only two companies the US has in the top 10 are based in the south.

P.S. I'm preemptively stating I'm not interested in your next post in which you will ignore your blatant mistake and attempt to give another example.

Originally Posted by troubador

Wal-mart is in the one spot. The only two companies the US has in the top 10 are based in the south.

P.S. I'm preemptively stating I'm not interested in your next post in which you will ignore your blatant mistake and attempt to give another example.

lol...sorry I forgot about wallmart being located in Arkansas, who in the fuk thinks about Arkansas? the median income there is like 47-48th in the nation.

Global 500 2010: Countries - U.S. - FORTUNE on CNNMoney.com

go conservative southern schools!

44 million on food stamps and climbing.

Hope and change you suckers can believe in.

Originally Posted by Big Pimpin

44 million on food stamps and climbing.

Hope and change you suckers can believe in.

It's going to continue this way until we abolish the Fed. Reserve, do away with wallstreet, and reign in our spending overseas.

This isn't going to happen until we have a huge crash in the next couple of years, and it will be worse than the great depression in my opinion.

People are dumber and more sloth-like than ever, and will resort to violence and looting before civility.
Shit's gonna go hard. I'm ready to fuck up anyone that tries to get over me and mine.