I'm in. Great idea.
It would appear that many here need to get off the sauce, yours truly included! Here's a way that we can all offer each other some back slappin' support and arse kickings without a whole bunch of 12 step garbage and pushing a new religion.
IMO alls it would take is some help from some of us like minded muscle heads who are all holding up our own personal progress through a common bad habbit that many of us seem to be sharing.
Lemme know if you're own board. Cheers!
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I'm in. Great idea.
Not a huge drinker myself, but have struggled with other somewhat obsessive tendencies. Happy to offer support to all that need it.
Drink, DRINK, DRINK, DRINK, DRINK, DRINK!
It doesn't matter how you find the pot of gold, so long as you beat the leprechauns.
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I don't need to "get off it", because I'm macho enough to handle it. Savage style.


here's an idea. how about the assholes with no support to lend stay out of threads like this in open chat? you can tell who the trolling punks are simply by the respect they fail to show other members.
Don't look back ~ You're not going that way!




wastes space and drives decent people away. the internet is like any other gathering place so any pools with too many douchebags will end up the last place non douchebag people want to hang out. i come here a lot less than i used to because you can't have a single conversation here anymore without some cunt you don't want to hang out with in your face like a loud obnoxious drunk at a bar. it ruins the experience. and don't say block them because the same little shit gets banned and springs up as someone else here to keep getting his mad on. it's ridiculous.
Don't look back ~ You're not going that way!



Well from the rep I got I guess my post was a bit out of line. I apologize, it was meant light-heartedly. I'm not trolling. I wish people who suffer from alcoholism the best of luck. It is a terrible disease. Walker
For the most part dry drugs are less detrimental for bodybuilding than alcohol. For what it's worth.
Cumming day and night.
yea, I could probably slow down on the booze.. not gonna lie...
Im with you. It might get your mind to think clearer "GINGRICH/PAUL 2012!!!" Come on!!!!! Are you serious?! Your logical mind will be able to see w/o the blind sauceIm messing with you.
For me I havent had a drink since Jan '11 because the orals I dont want to inflict even more damage and now I dont even care for the taste anymore.
A big plus from taking drinking out of the equation is less empty cals and carbs. It'll make you learner and meaner!![]()
It doesn't matter how you find the pot of gold, so long as you beat the leprechauns.
TJTJ is fictional character and purely theoretical.


^ dickface, i think he has a problem.
Your advice is "hey, its empty cals and carbs" or "Think about all the DMZ you'll be able to abuse once you quit".. ?
No addict wants to hear that shit!
You're a fucking douchebag. He needs help, possibly detox.
Granted this isnt the platform to ask for help because were all gonna make fun of him and what have you. Myself included![]()
But seriously, McGilf...Theres nothing wrong with asking for help....Just not on IM.
You dont have to accept the higher power non-sense to get a grip on this thing.
AA/NA is for fucking scumbags. no offense to anyone who goes...I attended a couple of meetings during my spiral (Benzos, alcohol) a few months back. What a motley crew. I felt like i really had my shit together seeing those people. Im not judging them but it made me realize i am not that far gone and i can do this on my own.
No idea what worked for me. I substituted for other things i suppose. Food, more gears, LHJO, impulse killings, etc
I obviously wasnt physically addicted, thankfully.
I mean, I can go weeks without a drink sometimes and im amazed at myself.
If the will is there, the body will follow inevitably.
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Actually, bro. I don't need detox. My problem is drinking out of boredom. I've also gotten ahold of benzos lately. That is scary indeed. I went thru 25 benzos and 14 beers last night. Yet, I still felt fine in the am and SFW with no probs. But, I know that takes a tole on your health. Fortunately, I'll be out of the benzos with not further acces after tomorrow. I don't experience any withdraws the next day, just the desire. I have no excuses. It's just a matter of personal responsibility. I AIN'T got any excuses. But, it sure is friggin fun.
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What does suck is that when you make up your mind that you want to quit. No one wants to believe you, nor do they have any reason to believe it for the 99999999999th time. lol
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It was over about 10 hours. The benzos would begin to wear off, so I'd pop 3-4 more and chase with a beer. I'm a large cat also at 240. Everytime I've ever taken xanax or estazolam, it's always had a very mild effect. But, the next morning, I was pretty wobbly. lol
Needless to say, I caught quite a bit of shit from the wife when when she noticed what was missing the next day.
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I can relate. You are so right about the benzo stuff being scary. I've been through benzo withdrawal, and it is very nasty, and it took awhile. I hope you are right and that you can avoid any withdrawals. Sad to say, but by the time I finally quit I'd been through the cold turkey deal with multiple substances. Maybe the 100000000000th time is the one for you. I'll do anything I can to help. Hang in there.
Thanks bro. Benzos have never really been an issue for me. I've always been more of a beer head. Benzos have always been more of a rare treat ( thank god). I have always heard that withdraw from a real benzo addiction is living hell. I hope I never have to experience it. I only have access because my wife's mom will occasionally send over some estazolam tabs from China. It will last the wife a month, yet I'll run through a box in a coupla days, coupled with beer for the added euphoria. Then I won't see anymore for months.
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Ya those always fucked with me, I would be so fucked up and feel like I was fine and not really that high. But you never said, what MG were they? If you don't know that what color and shape? I can see taking 25 .5 MG but the bars would have probably coma'd that ass haha.
Bottom line is, just think how much moar productive we'd all be without these struggles.
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What I've been taking is estazolam. It's very similar to xanax.. It's normally used for insomnia. But, it';s really more of an antianxialitic, like xanax. I really can't tell the diff b/w it and xanax. When you combine it with alc, it's exactly like xanax and alc. It comes in a 1mg tab. I take them 3-4 at a time. It produces one helluva euphoria and you sleep like a baby with no hangover.... unless you pound a shitload of beer.
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Thank god I can sleep late tomorrow.I'm fraid the euphoria is overridding the guilt. I reckon if it's just the weekend, it's not too much of a sin. ;(
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Yo, y'all might wanna join my social group. It's all fun getting effed up on benzos and brewhaha. But, I think we all ultimately want to get jerked and tan and accomplish other things besides ending up in detox. Check it out and maybe we can swap some other ideas besides how to get blasted offa beer and benzsos Hey, just a thought. No one ultimately skoars tailpipe by getting fucked up on a regular basis.
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