Thread: Don't Smoke Crystal Meth

Everytime I did it I had a blast. Great sex, great times. Those idiots give drugs a bad name and are the perfect symbols for government propaganda.

You could do the same in regards to alcohol.

This is the perfect time for a sorry for partying comment. If only I didn't swear that off months ago...

You got me.

You've tried crystal meth? sarcasm, yes?

Smoked, snorted and injected

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

Smoked, snorted and injected

I always add a gram or two of meth to my homebrewed gear.

come on ??? how bad can meth be ?

ok

I have smoked and snorted shit piles of it, but never injected. I consider myself to be in an elite class of drug users who can do whatever I wanted as hard as I wanted, but have the strength of will to walk away once it stopped being fun. But, meth grabbed me by the balls and didn't stop squeezing until I beat it off of me with a stick. That meant moving to another city and leaving my druggy friends and druggy bitch girlfriend without even saying bye.

What can I say, meth is my achilles heel.

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

Smoked, snorted and injected

Same, and the only friends and family who ever found out were the ones I trusted enough that I could tell without them judging me. Apart from that they would have never known otherwise and I've got a close family.
Some people are able to learn their limits or at least realise their limits when it becomes apparent and some cannot stop nomatter where it leads them.
I don't do drugs much anymore however when I do I enjoy it a lot.

"I've had good times on drugs, that's a fact. I've had bad times on drugs, too, ok? But I've had good and bad relationships...and I'm not giving up pussy." ~ Bill Hicks

Originally Posted by KelJu

I have smoked and snorted shit piles of it, but never injected. I consider myself to be in an elite class of drug users who can do whatever I wanted as hard as I wanted, but have the strength of will to walk away once it stopped being fun. But, meth grabbed me by the balls and didn't stop squeezing until I beat it off of me with a stick. That meant moving to another city and leaving my druggy friends and druggy bitch girlfriend without even saying bye.

What can I say, meth is my achilles heel.

I first learned of this drug in the 80's when one of my best friends dropped out of HS and started working at a pizza shop, the guys there were very bad influences on him. back then we called it crank and it was almost never found in the crystal form where it resembles "glass", I don't remember anyone ever smoking it back then

it has a great effect on dopamine in the brain

you can get a surprising amount of work done on meth and in high quality, pretty much the exact opposite effects of crack cocaine.

I got attached to those Adderall. Like Lam said, your boss will give you a raise for the amount of work you can get done on the stuff. Its cheap too.

Originally Posted by LAM

I first learned of this drug in the 80's when one of my best friends dropped out of HS and started working at a pizza shop, the guys there were very bad influences on him. back then we called it crank and it was almost never found in the crystal form where it resembles "glass", I don't remember anyone ever smoking it back then

it has a great effect on dopamine in the brain

you can get a surprising amount of work done on meth and in high quality, pretty much the exact opposite effects of crack cocaine.

I aced my Masters Thesis methed out of my mind

why would you try this stuff

because it is a fun activity shumnuts

I'd never try it, just for it's reputation.
I have done cocaine and addy.

But my dad has a bad addiction back in his day to this shit... ended up weighing 135lbs @ 6'2".
Yikes.

Oh good ol glass, tina,crystall, whatever its called now..god I had great times with that dirty bitch..sex is amazing. Meth really gets you doin freaky shit in the bedroom..plus you can get a weeks worth of work done in a day or two...

What what I have seen, it is a harsh yet quick way to lose weight.

Yeah, if you're going to do it inject it.

Done a shitload myself. Why you ask? Because I was a dumb fuck, period. Got that motherfucker off my back years ago, hardest thing I ever did.

My Thai girlfriend and I got on the meth once and she sucked my dick for 12 hours straight, no joke.

















It was one of the worst nights in my life.

the only time in my life that I had a multiple orgasm was on meth..dam it!

I will do amphetamines, but I have seen people drop out of life on meth, same with opiates, I can do any of them and not get hooked, but I have seen people get lost in heroin. But I also don't like doing any drug that puts me out of my mind except psychedelics and when I used to drink, now I need functionality and to be able to handle my responsibilities the next day.

Also people I have known who got into meth turned into complete assholes, you don't want them around when they are high cause they are annoying and stupid....

Originally Posted by jhud25

why would you try this stuff

I have always been a "calculated risk" taker when it comes to taking drugs, etc. I've never put anything in my body w/o doing sufficient research on that specific substance. even in HS when my buddies decided we were going to try shrooms for the first time the upcoming weekend, I spent 3 days in the library (no Internets in the early 80's) after school that week doing research and actually handed out a 2 page paper on it's short/long term effects that Friday to them.

from my own person experiences with drugs and alcohol over many years I have come to find out that those with self-discipline problems do not do very well "trying" out either of these things.

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

"I've had good times on drugs, that's a fact. I've had bad times on drugs, too, ok? But I've had good and bad relationships...and I'm not giving up pussy." ~ Bill Hicks

William Melvin "Bill" Hicks (December 16, 1961 – February 26, 1994) died of pancreatic cancer at the age of 32.

From Wikipedia

Which leads me to the question...

What causes pancreatic cancer?

While it is virtually impossible to tell what caused a specific person to develop pancreatic cancer, there are some important principles of cancer biology that can help us understand why pancreatic cancer develops, and large population-based studies help us understand the many risk factors for this disease.

Pancreatic cancer is fundamentally a disease caused by damage to the DNA (mutations). These mutations can be inherited from mom or dad, or they can be acquired as we age. First, let us look at the inherited mutations. Remember that we have two copies of each gene - one copy we inherit from mom, the other copy we inherit from dad. Most individuals with an inherited cancer syndrome inherit one mutant copy (let us say from dad) and one intact (normal) copy (let us say from mom) of a cancer associated gene. As they age, some of these people will damage the good copy of the gene (the copy they got from mom) in a cell in their pancreas. That cell will have two bad copies of the gene, and, as a result, that cell in the pancreas will grow into a cancer. It doesn’t mean that everyone with an inherited predisposition will get cancer, it means that since they only have one copy of the gene, they are more likely to get cancer.

I like to think of it using the analogy of the space shuttle, with the shuttle standing in for a person, and computers on the space shuttle standing in for genes. Normally the shuttle goes into space with a computer and a back-up for that computer. Only if both computers break is there a problem. For people with a genetic predisposition to pancreatic cancer, it is like going up into space with one good computer and one bad computer. If something goes wrong with the one good computer, they are in trouble.

The second way we can damage our DNA is with our behavior. The carcinogens in cigarette smoke can damage our DNA. If the carcinogens damage a key cancer-associated gene in a cell in the pancreas, then that cell may grow into a cancer. Simply put, don’t smoke! The third way our DNA gets damaged is by chance. This is probably the least satisfying explanation, but it is true. Every cell in our body (and there are trillions of them!) contains a 23 chromosomes and these 23 chromosomes contain 3 billion base-pairs of DNA.

Every time a cell divides it has to copy all of that DNA (so that it can make a daughter cell with a full complement of DNA). The DNA copying machinery in cells is pretty darn good, but it is not perfect. Occasionally mistakes are made. On one hand, this is good from a population or species perspective, because these mistakes allow for evolution to occur (if we copied our DNA perfectly we would not evolve!). If one of these chance errors in copying (DNA mutations) damage a key cancer-associated gene in a cell in the pancreas, then that cell may grow into a cancer.

To summarize, pancreatic cancer is caused by DNA mutations, and there are three ways that we can damage our DNA. We can be born with a DNA mutation inherited from mom or dad, we can do something, like smoke, that damages our DNA, or our DNA can be damaged by chance.

The second way to answer the question about what causes pancreatic cancer is to ask what are the risk factors for pancreatic cancer? Some of the risk factors include:

1. Cigarette smoking: Smoking doubles the risk of pancreatic cancer. Smoking is also associated with early age at diagnosis, and, very importantly, the risk of pancreatic cancer drops close to normal in people who quit smoking. Simply put, cigarette smoking is the leading preventable cause of pancreatic cancer. In fact, some scientists have estimated that one in four, or one in five cases of pancreatic cancer are caused by smoking cigarettes.
2. Age: The risk of developing pancreatic cancer increases with age. Over 80% of the cases develop between the ages of 60 and 80.
3. Race: Studies in the United States have shown that pancreatic cancer is more common in the African American population than it is in the white population. Some of this increased risk may be due to socioeconomic factors and to cigarette smoking.
4. Gender: Cancer of the pancreas is more common in men than in women. Men are more likely to smoke than women.
5. Religious background: Pancreatic cancer is proportionally more common in Ashkenazi Jews than the rest of the population. This may be because of a particular inherited mutation in the breast cancer gene (BRCA2) which runs in some Ashkenazi Jewish families.
6. Chronic pancreatitis: Long-term inflammation of the pancreas (pancreatitis) has been linked to cancer of the pancreas.
7. Diabetes: Diabetes is both a symptom of pancreatic cancer, and long-standing adult-onset diabetes also increases the risk of pancreatic cancer.
8. Obesity: Obesity significantly increases the risk of pancreatic cancer.
9. Diet: Diets high in meats, cholesterol fried foods and nitrosamines may increase risk, while diets high in fruits and vegetables reduce risk. Folate may be protective.
10. Genetics: As mentioned earlier, a number of inherited cancer syndromes increase the risk of pancreatic cancer. These include inherited mutations in the BRCA2, FAMMM, PalB2 or Peutz-Jeghers genes.

From What Causes Pancreatic Cancer?

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

Everytime I did it I had a blast. Great sex, great times. Those idiots give drugs a bad name and are the perfect symbols for government propaganda.

You could do the same in regards to alcohol.

IDK, when you see how many people have ruined their lives with it, why try it in the first place? I tried coke a few times in my early 20s. But, I could see how easily someone could get hooked on in, in the way it keeps you awake all night and makes you want moar to keep going. So, after a coupla fun all niters, I said "fuck that." There's really nothing fun about going to bed at 2am and staring at the ceiling all nite until the birds start chirping.

I know a lot of drug users and smokers and I'm yet to meet a single person who died at such a young age (excluding overdoses). Bill had quit drugs for many years previously and his only vice was cigarette smoking. He smoked a lot however he had managed to quit smoking for some time before he got diagnosed with cancer.

Another thing was that Bill was often speaking out against the banning of drugs such as marijuana and mushrooms. Drugs that clearly do not pose a threat to society if used responsibly.

Thanks for the post Curt. I miss Bill and it makes sad that he was taken at such a young age. He really did have a lot more to offer, especially post 9/11.

I wouldn't touch it. But, I'm past those experimenting days. My only drug of choice these days is bruhaha. That's more than enough to deal with.

Originally Posted by Curt James

While it is virtually impossible to tell what caused a specific person to develop pancreatic cancer, there are some important principles of cancer biology that can help us understand why pancreatic cancer develops, and large population-based studies help us understand the many risk factors for this disease.

these questions and others will come in the future as the study of epigenetics devlops and more data is collected. lifestyle choices in exercise, the diet, stress and environmental factors (air pollution rural vs metro), etc. all effect brother & sister,(siblings) from the same parents/DNA differently.

this is why I have never had much empathy for those that claim the "fat gene" etc. is responsible for massive weight gain/high body fat, etc. while one's DNA may be hardcoded to cause one to have a slower than normal say BMR the lifestyle choices in diet, exercise, etc. can supersede that.