Big dumb animal!

bekahleigh23 · 12-15-2002, 11:04 AM

On Saturday the gym I work at had a Bench Press Contest. It was pretty cool to watch, some of the women were in pretty good shape. Anywho, there was this guy that benched 635 on his 1st attempt and 2nd attempt was 650 which were all successful. Right before he went onto the stage for his 3rd attempt, he was hitting the theater door with both hands really hard. I thought he was throwing stuff. And then all of a sudden there was this huge *CRASH*. That big dumb animal hit his head against the door so hard that he left a dent the size of his forehead!

He attempted to lift 665, but i guess his heel came up slightly off the floor. So he didn't get that one.

Does anyone here think he was on something? Can a normal human being lift that much without being on something? He wasn't even that big. His chest seemed puffed up, and he had little arms. But it probably just looked like he had little arms because of his chest. I don't know, other than i know he's a big dumb animal!!!

david · 12-15-2002, 12:02 PM

On something? I think he probably consumed a protein shake!

That would be difficult to determine as passing judgement on those guys is just as bad a stating most people who workout are "Steroid heads" and "juicers". The one judgement we all hate!

I know a lot of powerlifters here in SFLA that use steroids, such as sus, deca, growth and d'bol. But on the other hand, most of them state they've used at one time or another but not currently

I think it's a STRONG possibility, Bekah! Just my opinion, though.

**Prince** · 12-15-2002, 01:57 PM

what was his bodyweight?

without seeing him it would be difficult to know if he was on drugs.

A friend of my father used to do bench press competitions on a regular basis, and that was really all he did as far as working out. He did not work legs, mainly just upper body with a focus on the bench press.

anyway he was all natural and he competed at a bodyweight of 165lbs and his competition bench press was 425lbs, and I believe his "gym max" (no judges) was around 450lbs.

Scotty the Body · 12-15-2002, 02:14 PM

I've come to the realization that anyone that can lift more than me MUST BE ON SOMETHING!!

mesomorphin' · 12-15-2002, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scotty the Body
I've come to the realization that anyone that can lift more than me MUST BE ON SOMETHING!!

Umm. . . water?

david · 12-15-2002, 02:54 PM

That's true. I almost forgot the picture thing but by the way she described him, I'm assuming he's in the high 200's.

Using 10 reps, the most I benched dumbell wise was 110.... then somehow, I increased to 135, again for 10 within 2 weeks.....

Scotty the Body · 12-15-2002, 03:08 PM

OK, davids on somthin........

sawheet · 12-15-2002, 06:22 PM

I have been working in and around atheletes for 15 years ( I would not call that individual an athelete) I rarely find a powerlifter who has not tried steroids.

**Prince** · 12-15-2002, 06:27 PM

just because you have tried steroids does not mean that you are currently on them, and that is really the only way that they're effective.

david · 12-15-2002, 06:57 PM

Prince,

Would that statement include someone who used 1 or two cycles as someone who tried steroids?

**Prince** · 12-15-2002, 07:00 PM

If you used 1 or 2 cycles of steroids 2 years ago (just an example) it's not going to have much of an effect, if any, on your size and strength today.

KataMaStEr · 12-15-2002, 07:16 PM

Yeah I think he was on creatine?

david · 12-15-2002, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
If you used 1 or 2 cycles of steroids 2 years ago (just an example) it's not going to have much of an effect, if any, on your size and strength today.

I guess because I was not on a real huge cycle consistently, as opposed to those who are, you have a very good point.

I can agree with strength and size because everything increase dramatically. After the discontinuance, I believe that it won't decrease (strength) dramatically though. On the other hand, I guess everyone's body is different.

In other words, when I was using "things", my weights (DB/BB) increased 40-60lbs. heavier with increase reps... I still have that strength! I guess I'm lucky because I stuck with it after quitting.

**I Are Baboon** · 12-16-2002, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bekahleigh23
Right before he went onto the stage for his 3rd attempt, he was hitting the theater door with both hands really hard. I thought he was throwing stuff. And then all of a sudden there was this huge *CRASH*. That big dumb animal hit his head against the door so hard that he left a dent the size of his forehead

Sounds like he was trying to psyche himself up, despite the fact that he was annoying the shit out of everyone else. Either that or he was just trying to bring attention to himself. "Me is a big strong man. Everyone watch me lift lots of weight!!" People like that piss me off.

Scotty the Body · 12-16-2002, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
If you used 1 or 2 cycles of steroids 2 years ago (just an example) it's not going to have much of an effect, if any, on your size and strength today.

I would have to disagree.
If you took two identical subjects two years ago, one took 1 or two cycles and the other didn't.
I would be willing to guarantee that the person that did the 1 or 2 cycles is bigger and more than likely stronger than the guy that didn't.
I don't believe you would loose that much unless you stopped training and your diet went to hell.

**Prince** · 12-16-2002, 11:30 AM

Scotty,what is your personal experience with steroids?

david · 12-16-2002, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scotty the Body
I would have to disagree.
If you took two identical subjects two years ago, one took 1 or two cycles and the other didn't.
I would be willing to guarantee that the person that did the 1 or 2 cycles is bigger and more than likely stronger than the guy that didn't.
I don't believe you would loose that much unless you stopped training and your diet went to hell.

Actually through a witness of another friend who did MAJOR roids and consistent cycles... he's been off for about 5 months now and he's a lot smaller and a lot less stronger as well.

But you know what, this dude still consistently works and works out hard and he still looks better than most in the gym!!!

So, the subject of that matter in this topic, I have to agree with Prince on Muscle/Strength loss and agree with STB with stopping training and diet havoc..

12-15-2002, 11:04 AM	#1
bekahleigh23 Leading a Charmed Life! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: back to the tundra of WI Posts: 608	Big dumb animal! On Saturday the gym I work at had a Bench Press Contest. It was pretty cool to watch, some of the women were in pretty good shape. Anywho, there was this guy that benched 635 on his 1st attempt and 2nd attempt was 650 which were all successful. Right before he went onto the stage for his 3rd attempt, he was hitting the theater door with both hands really hard. I thought he was throwing stuff. And then all of a sudden there was this huge CRASH. That big dumb animal hit his head against the door so hard that he left a dent the size of his forehead! He attempted to lift 665, but i guess his heel came up slightly off the floor. So he didn't get that one. Does anyone here think he was on something? Can a normal human being lift that much without being on something? He wasn't even that big. His chest seemed puffed up, and he had little arms. But it probably just looked like he had little arms because of his chest. I don't know, other than i know he's a big dumb animal!!!
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12-15-2002, 12:02 PM	#2
david EAST COAST BRAT Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waterworld, FL Posts: 25,420 Photos: 2	On something? I think he probably consumed a protein shake! That would be difficult to determine as passing judgement on those guys is just as bad a stating most people who workout are "Steroid heads" and "juicers". The one judgement we all hate! I know a lot of powerlifters here in SFLA that use steroids, such as sus, deca, growth and d'bol. But on the other hand, most of them state they've used at one time or another but not currently I think it's a STRONG possibility, Bekah! Just my opinion, though. Last edited by david : 12-15-2002 at 02:56 PM.

12-15-2002, 01:57 PM	#3
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,743 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	what was his bodyweight? without seeing him it would be difficult to know if he was on drugs. A friend of my father used to do bench press competitions on a regular basis, and that was really all he did as far as working out. He did not work legs, mainly just upper body with a focus on the bench press. anyway he was all natural and he competed at a bodyweight of 165lbs and his competition bench press was 425lbs, and I believe his "gym max" (no judges) was around 450lbs.
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12-15-2002, 02:14 PM	#4
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	I've come to the realization that anyone that can lift more than me MUST BE ON SOMETHING!!
	Cool

12-15-2002, 03:08 PM	#7
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	OK, davids on somthin........
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12-15-2002, 02:54 PM	#6
david EAST COAST BRAT Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waterworld, FL Posts: 25,420 Photos: 2	That's true. I almost forgot the picture thing but by the way she described him, I'm assuming he's in the high 200's. Using 10 reps, the most I benched dumbell wise was 110.... then somehow, I increased to 135, again for 10 within 2 weeks.....

12-15-2002, 06:22 PM	#8
sawheet JB'Os THONG Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,137 Photos: 8	I have been working in and around atheletes for 15 years ( I would not call that individual an athelete) I rarely find a powerlifter who has not tried steroids.
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12-15-2002, 06:27 PM	#9
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,743 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	just because you have tried steroids does not mean that you are currently on them, and that is really the only way that they're effective.
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12-15-2002, 06:57 PM	#10
david EAST COAST BRAT Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waterworld, FL Posts: 25,420 Photos: 2	Prince, Would that statement include someone who used 1 or two cycles as someone who tried steroids?

12-15-2002, 07:00 PM	#11
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,743 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	If you used 1 or 2 cycles of steroids 2 years ago (just an example) it's not going to have much of an effect, if any, on your size and strength today.
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12-15-2002, 07:16 PM	#12
KataMaStEr -==♠==- Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,960 Photos: 6	Yeah I think he was on creatine?

12-16-2002, 11:30 AM	#16
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,743 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	Scotty,what is your personal experience with steroids?
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