Thread: China is moving a 50 mile Chinese city into the US - hard to believe?

Originally Posted by DOMS

没有爱的存在。

There is no love's existance? trying to say no lost love between us?

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

There is no love's existance? trying to say no lost love between us?

Google Translator. Meh.

I was saying "There's no love there."

Originally Posted by DOMS

Google Translator. Meh.

I was saying "There's no love there."

just méiyǒu ài

有没爱

or add jiù 就 at the end

we tend to minimize words since it takes so damn long to write them.

这次谈话是平淡而枯燥

Méiyǒu měiguó, méiyǒu rén mǎi liánjià chǎnpǐn

Originally Posted by LAM

every US president and or Vice President since Carter has a direct link to the Trilateral Commission and/or the CFR. Find the strongest link between these organizations and the 2012 Presidential candidates and there is "our" next Puppet-OTUS.

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Please the trilateral commission was the konspiracy theory of the late 80s and early 90s...get with the times man

Originally Posted by DOMS

Back in the last 80s, it looked as though Japan was going to financially concur the USA. They were importing our money at an astonishing rate. They were spending that money by buying up everything in the USA. They looked unstoppable.

Then it turned out that their economy was a house of cards. It all collapsed.

And the Japanese are 1000 times more competent than the Chinese. China's economy is slowing down and they're having to raise interest rates.

If the US' economy tanks, the number of imports will drop propitiously. China's economy will go down faster than...well...a Chinese hooker.

The Historical Origins of Japan's Deflationary Trap

Japan's economy stalled b/c they played by our game...ie the game created by the US and Western Europe, free and floating currencies.

agreed on the US economy tanking=PRC tanking even faster...most folks don't really understand that if/when the US economy crumbles, we WILL take the entire world down with us for decades. There won't be a winner for quite sometime.

Originally Posted by LAM

no different than what the US has been doing to other countries for many decades. China is the largest holder of US debt in the form of T-notes. a communist country is going to have a base in a rising fascist country, makes sense to me.

the US government serves the financial elite, the rest is an illusion.

Learn Mandarin, bitches!

I Googled text from the initial article and found this additional info:

But even if you don’t consider the communist Chinese to be a military threat, you should be deeply concerned about the economic implications of what is happening.

Today, tens of millions of Americans are wondering why the economy is so bad. Well, there are a lot of reasons, but the fact that we have sent China thousands of our factories, millions of our jobs and trillions of dollars of our national wealth is a major contributing factor.

If you do not know the truth about how badly the Chinese economy is wiping the floor with the American economy then you need to read this article: "40 Signs The Chinese Economy Is Beating The Living Daylights Out Of The U.S. Economy". Beautiful new infrastructure is going up all over China today, and meanwhile many of our once great manufacturing cities are turning into rotted-out war zones.

China would not be what they are today if we had insisted that they abandon the communist system and respect basic human rights before we ever opened up trade with them. But that did not happen. Instead we enthusiastically welcomed China into the WTO and we let the predatory Chinese system run wild.

In 2010, China had a “current account balance” of over 272 billion dollars, which was the largest in the world.

In 2010, the United States had a “current account balance” of negative 561 billion dollars. According to the CIA world factbook, that put us in last place in the entire world. In fact, our negative current account balance was more than 9 times larger than anyone else in the world. If you go check out this chart it will give you a really good idea of how nightmarish our trade situation has become.

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Originally Posted by Curt James

Learn Mandarin, bitches!

But even if you don’t consider the communist Chinese to be a military threat, you should be deeply concerned about the economic implications of what is happening.

Today, tens of millions of Americans are wondering why the economy is so bad. Well, there are a lot of reasons, but the fact that we have sent China thousands of our factories, millions of our jobs and trillions of dollars of our national wealth is a major contributing factor.

The world is just about Communism free with China being the largest country and the others remaining very small and having no substantial amounts of natural resources. This means that the majority of the world is trading and has been "globalized". middle class Americans have paid a substantial price for this. For the past years the US military has mainly been protected the petro-dollar in the middle east but even this is no longer affordable. we have drained most of the natural resources from N. American so we have no fear of ever being taken over by China or anyone else along with the fact that most are already enslaved by indebtedness in this country.

I'm sure by now that China has devised a long-term economic plan that will give the Trilateral Commission and neo-liberalism a run for their money.

Ok LAM and Curt, what are we going to do? I'm no expert in this, but it sounds like we dug our own hole and it's too deep to get out. Is there any chance of us reversing this?

Originally Posted by lnvanry

Please the trilateral commission was the conspiracy theory of the late 80s and early 90s...get with the times man

a conspiracy must result in committing a crime, that is the essential element. forming a long term strategy to dominate global economics is not a conspiracy if no crime is committed it is simply a plan. there are no laws against manipulating citizens of country's as the result of good or bad policy, remember they are "elected" officials.

if you believe the Trilateral Commission to not be a factor anymore than you never did enough research on them, Bilberger or the CFR because they are the ones pulling the strings behind the White House and they have been since Carter. You have to follow the money trail and see what multinational company's have benefited over the last 30 years as the result of neo-liberal economic policy's.

GWB has an MBA from Harvard, do you really think he didn't know what the end result of 8 years of supply-side tax cuts for the rich and corporations was going to have on the US deficit? it is one of the most simple plans, you create a huge problem that can only be solved with one solution, the reduction of government. You have to read the works of marx and the OECD Guidelines for Multinational Corporations to truly understand how these things actions all tie together. Half of the US population can not read above the 8th grade level, it is how these things are done in plan site, most simply can not understand the information.

jugg, all I do is copy and paste. lol

The way I figure it, we really should learn Mandarin.

And Cantonese.

I'd actually love to master ten languages, but it looks like I'll only ever be half (okay one-third) proficient at English.

I'm a work-a-day guy who will never have an impact on the world, but I'm content with that. I do my 12 hours at the elementary school, pick up crayons, clean up spills, staple artwork to bulletin boards, and then goof off online in my free time.

Don't normally give how effed up the world is much thought.

Did I sell the U.S. out from under its citizens? No. And I'm in no position to fix it. Check this out to make you feel even worse... (lol What are friends for, eh?)


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Originally Posted by LAM

a conspiracy must result in committing a crime, that is the essential element. forming a long term strategy to dominate global economics is not a conspiracy if no crime is committed it is simply a plan. there are no laws against manipulating citizens of country's as the result of good or bad policy, remember they are "elected" officials.

if you believe the Trilateral Commission to not be a factor anymore than you never did enough research on them, Bilberger or the CFR because they are the ones pulling the strings behind the White House and they have been since Carter. You have to follow the money trail and see what multinational company's have benefited over the last 30 years as the result of neo-liberal economic policy's.

GWB has an MBA from Harvard, do you really think he didn't know what the end result of 8 years of supply-side tax cuts for the rich and corporations was going to have on the US deficit? it is one of the most simple plans, you create a huge problem that can only be solved with one solution, the reduction of government. You have to read the works of marx and the OECD Guidelines for Multinational Corporations to truly understand how these things actions all tie together. Half of the US population cannot read above the 8th grade level, it is how these things are done in plain site, most simply cannot understand the information.

You, good sir, are apparently cursed with above average intelligence. I advise you to simply forget about it. Go to the diner and have some coffee and pie.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Ok LAM and Curt, what are we going to do? I'm no expert in this, but it sounds like we dug our own hole and it's too deep to get out. Is there any chance of us reversing this?

I wish I had an answer for that but the majority of the country is still living under the illusion of "democracy" and "free markets" when neither has existed in the US for quite some time. it's hard to sell a solution to people when they are not even aware of the problem.

Originally Posted by LAM

I wish I had an answer for that but the majority of the country is still living under the illusion of "democracy" and "free markets" when neither has existed in the US for quite some time. it's hard to sell a solution to people when they are not even aware of the problem.

its the same delusion that this country has for a very small part of our economy, that our private insurance industry is functioning under free market rules....if the country cant see that private health insurance no longer functions under free market forces , they can't open their eyes to its other facets.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

just méiyǒu ài

有没爱

or add jiù 就 at the end

we tend to minimize words since it takes so damn long to write them.

Originally Posted by LAM

I wish I had an answer for tha(snip)

Coffee...

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

its the same delusion that this country ha(snip)

and pie.

Originally Posted by Curt James

You, good sir, are apparently cursed with above average intelligence. I advise you to simply forget about it. Go to the diner and have some coffee and pie.

I now feel a sense of guilt as I was informed about supply-side economics by one of my neighbors back in '82, he was one of the heirs to the campbell soup fortune. I didn't have a freaking clue what he was talking about being only in 8th grade but he told me how to avoid the debt trap among other things. I was not able to apply this knowledge in the real world until after I had gotten out of the military and joined the work force, I simply had not acquired enough information until then to put the pieces of the puzzle together.

there have been no positive changes for the working class in america for decades. our government is made to look inept intentionally and this is why even the simplest of problems are never resolved in the US. the people of this country have been played and will continue to be used as pawns to vote away any chance of a better future.

look up UN resolution 3201 and see what you find out...

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

its the same delusion that this country has for a very small part of our economy, that our private insurance industry is functioning under free market rules....if the country cant see that private health insurance no longer functions under free market forces , they can't open their eyes to its other facets.

^ This. Imagine if you or I could call an Insurance company in any of the 50 states and ask for a quote on a health policy and go with the best bidder, the same way we can for life insurance or auto insurance. There is no question health care costs would be more affordable, premiums would come down, and more people would have access. Rather than the health care disaster that the admin has created, a simple free market solution could have eliminated a lot of the red tape and brought costs down. There is no reason for the govt to be in bed with private insurance companies the way they are now.

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

There is no question health care costs would be more affordable, premiums would come down, and more people would have access. Rather than the health care disaster that the admin has created, a simple free market solution could have eliminated a lot of the red tape and brought costs down. There is no reason for the govt to be in bed with private insurance companies the way they are now.

a true free market would allow tons of foreign doctors to enter the US substantially reducing health care costs by at least 25%. but of course this will never be done.

because of the dismal education system in the US we could never compete in a true free market system the US would get slaughtered, in general we are a lazy and stupid society that tries to avoid "hard" work at all costs. doing things that are hard is how you learn and gain new skill sets and increase knowledge, you don't learn anything from constantly doing things that are easy but that is the US way of life now.

Let's hope they move it to Jersey, the place could use a little sprucing up

Originally Posted by LAM

the Chinese do not follow the neo-liberal economic model and never will, they are way to smart and forward thinking. the US business model is all about short-term economic growth for the capitalist class. the real GDP of any OECD country that adopts neo-liberal economic policies has shown constant decline since. every POTUS since Reagan is nothing but a puppet of the Trilateral Commission.

Our Keynesian economic methods really haven't done much to help either. Look at the stimulus. It's been nothing but a war chest for politicians and bailouts for giant banks, while they continued to foreclose on homes. Yet it was intended, we were told, to put people back to work with shovel ready jobs. I guess you could say there was nothing Keynesian about it, just pure corruption.

Originally Posted by LAM

a true free market would allow tons of foreign doctors to enter the US substantially reducing health care costs by at least 25%. but of course this will never be done.

because of the dismal education system in the US we could never compete in a true free market system the US would get slaughtered, in general we are a lazy and stupid society that tries to avoid "hard" work at all costs. doing things that are hard is how you learn and gain new skill sets and increase knowledge, you don't learn anything from constantly doing things that are easy but that is the US way of life now.

Well, higher education is very competitive as compared to other countries. There has to be a reason why so many are coming over here for college, masters degrees, MDs, etc. UAB, my old stomping ground, was a bastion of Chinese and Indian students with very competitive GPAs. But yes, the public education over here sucks compared to other countries.

Originally Posted by LAM

a conspiracy must result in committing a crime, that is the essential element. forming a long term strategy to dominate global economics is not a conspiracy if no crime is committed it is simply a plan. there are no laws against manipulating citizens of country's as the result of good or bad policy, remember they are "elected" officials.

if you believe the Trilateral Commission to not be a factor anymore than you never did enough research on them, Bilberger or the CFR because they are the ones pulling the strings behind the White House and they have been since Carter. You have to follow the money trail and see what multinational company's have benefited over the last 30 years as the result of neo-liberal economic policy's.

GWB has an MBA from Harvard, do you really think he didn't know what the end result of 8 years of supply-side tax cuts for the rich and corporations was going to have on the US deficit? it is one of the most simple plans, you create a huge problem that can only be solved with one solution, the reduction of government. You have to read the works of marx and the OECD Guidelines for Multinational Corporations to truly understand how these things actions all tie together. Half of the US population can not read above the 8th grade level, it is how these things are done in plan site, most simply can not understand the information.

You do realize that the 3 organizations have different membership, missions, and outputs right?

Originally Posted by lnvanry

You do realize that the 3 organizations have different membership, missions, and outputs right?

lol of course I do, I've spent hundreds of hours doing research on all of them over the years.

there is not much difference though between the goals of the TC and the Bilberger Group except the latter has secret membership and is un-official.

Originally Posted by LAM

lol of course I do, I've spent hundreds of hours doing research on all of them over the years.

there is not much difference though between the goals of the TC and the Bilberger Group except the latter has secret membership and is un-official.

and the fact that the latter isn't restricted to 3 regions...therefore it has a much wider aperture with different motives and stakeholders.

Originally Posted by lnvanry

and the fact that the latter isn't restricted to 3 regions...therefore it has a much wider aperture with different motives and stakeholders.

Yes and they are all OECD member countries which ALL follow the neo-liberal economic model, you have to once you accept funds from the IMF or World Bank or have been "liberated" by the US military.