Thread: Wal-Mart vs. The Morons

Add the so-called war on drugs. They still haven't figured out that prohibition doesn't work.

Originally Posted by Gena Marie

You have FAILED in every
"government service" you have shoved
down our throats while overspending our tax dollars.

AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM???

For me, even if these socialized programs and ideologies worked I'd still rather have my freedom. I don't want to be herded like cattle, told where and how to live, what to eat, what I can't put into my body, that I can't defend myself. The more dependent you are on someone, the more control they have over you. I don't care about economy if it means losing my soul.

Originally Posted by troubador

For me, even if these socialized programs and ideologies worked I'd still rather have my freedom. I don't want to be herded like cattle, told where and how to live, what to eat, what I can't put into my body, that I can't defend myself. The more dependent you are on someone, the more control they have over you. I don't care about economy if it means losing my soul.

Yes, it does feel as though our freedoms are less and less. We are getting close to a communistic society. What freedom?

Originally Posted by Curt James

Add the so-called war on drugs. They still haven't figured out that prohibition doesn't work.

Right Curt! How many years until they realize this issue too will fail? Hopefully I won't be here to see it and hopefully our son won't either.

the only thing they did was sell something cheaper and stick with it because they know americans will shop from them even though no one there gets health coverage or any other benefit from them. Americans care about themselves and their money more than ethical treatment of animals or employees.walmart may soon swallow the retail world whole just as all the muti-generation mom and pop hardware stores and lumber yards were slain by the devil in the orange vest, because it was cheaper.MONEY not principles dictact who wins.but yes, they know how to make money!

Wal-Mart is one of the worst business models around.

Wal-mart profits - taxpayers pay.

For construction of wal-mart buildings, to employee medicaid healthcare, to where wal-mart decides to set up shop.

Heard of the Wal-Mart "dead peasant" insurance policy on wal-mart workers that die?

Google it.

MBA programs do case studies on the "wal-mart model."

Ya see, it makes profits, at taxpayer expense, while abusing people, and winning lawsuits against them.

Wal-mart is a corporations. A big one. And they are in bed with the politicians.

It's not mutually exclusive, but one in the same.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

Wal-mart profits - taxpayers pay.

...

Ya see, it makes profits, at taxpayer expense.

How so?

Originally Posted by Gena Marie

1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart
Every hour of every day.

2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

Wal-Mart is one of the worst business models around.

Riiiiiiight

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Riiiiiiight

Do you know how Wal-mart made it big?

Back when they were small, the big guy (Sears, Woolworth's, etc.) wouldn't build stores in anything but the largest cities. Hell, Sears wouldn't build in a city with less than 50,000 people.

Wal-mart took a longer view. They new the small cities would grow up. Surprise, surprise, it worked.

Originally Posted by ovr40

Americans care about themselves and their money more than ethical treatment of animals or employees. MONEY not principles dictact who wins.but yes, they know how to make money!

For the most part I'm loving this country so far.

Walmart FTW! Plus their hometown is pretty cool.

Originally Posted by Gentleman

For the most part I'm loving this country so far.

Hmmm, you might not be so bad afterall.

I am Canadian and I probably shop at Walmart for 90% of my purchases. Their angle is cheap, I am a student, it just works. Locally produced/sourced food is all I like to buy, and they have it the cheapest.. if they don't, Price Match ftw!

Originally Posted by DOMS

How so?

one reason is:

Wallmart forces it's buyers to come in at 5% less every year. this forces them to constantly move production, labor, etc. to the cheapest countries. this has a negative effect on the US trade balance which effects exchange rates and the value of the dollar.

when multinationals extract dollars from the US those monies do not return back into circulation. they are either invested overseas or end up in other assets, stocks, etc. it's a viscous cycle as profits increase less money is ever returned back into the economy for productive uses. it's why the GDP keeps decreasing across all OECD countries but the company's in those countries are constantly making more profits. It's why the US has the lions share of global 500's and millionaires and billionaires in the world yet our real GDP is pathetic.

The U.S. Gov. already follows their scheme. When Wal Mart first opened it's operations, they touted all the shiite they sold was American made. Now, everything in there is from China and is crap.

I don't step foot in there!

Wal-Mart was my first official job. I was a Cart-Pusher and built up huge leg muscles because back then they didn't have those automatic assist machines I had to push 50-80 at a time over 50 yards most of the time(they were the metal type about 60lbs each or 80 = 4800 lbs = 2.4 tons) trick was to get under it lift the first 5 or 6 and get some assist for momentum. Turned me into a vicious iron-man football player though explosive speed, lineman handling strength and endurance from working 10 hour shifts a lot....

Dead-Peasant Policies Wal-Mart purchased between 1993-1996....

Holy fuck that's when I was hired, I was part-time and they knew I was going to join the Navy after High School.... I bet they took out a policy on me....

Guys come on you cant say shit about Wall-mart if you believe in Capitalism, they are the best at it!!!

Originally Posted by Imosted

Guys come on you cant say shit about Wall-mart if you believe in Capitalism, they are the best at it!!!

There's the problem, quite a few of the people on this board DON'T believe in Capitalism.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

There's the problem, quite a few of the people on this board DON'T believe in Capitalism.

constantly changing tax and bankruptcy laws, using monetary policy and trade agreements and having politicians change legislation at state and federal levels to strictly benefit big corporations isn't capitalism it's fascism. and that is what the managed market economy that the US used to have has turned into.

in the US true capitalism and free markets do not exist above the state level. every time I hear a politician on tv talk about "free markets" I want to fucking punch them square in the mouth. the markets couldn't be anymore controlled.

If your comment was in reference to many of my posts you have me all wrong. I'm all about capitalism but not at the expense of others. growing up I cut grass & racked leaves, shoveled snow and painted houses and had a paper route. by the time I was in 7th grade I had 6k in the bank and quadrupled that before I graduated high school thanks to heavy snow fall in PA. my neighbors loved me, anything they didn't want to do I would, for a price..lol

my problem with the US version of capitalism which is neo-liberalism on steroids is that it denies others the future of being able to become financially independent. there is no better feeling than being financially independent and not living anywhere close to pay-check to pay-check and not have to worry about money. but there is only so much money to go around and the current system is rigged so the majority does not have the ability to get a fair share of it. thanks to neo-liberal economic policies the GDP of ALL OECD countries has steadily decreased year after year and nothing is going to stop this. actually Chile has a high GDP but that's because of the high rate of social expenditure, the money stays in circulation and everyone benefits. to many in the US have been brainwashed into believing in a system that isn't true capitalism at all.

if the markets were truly "free" nobody would make much money at all but things wouldn't cost nearly as much. people would be able to trade with each other from all over the globe and everyone would be in direct competition with each other, that is a true free market economy the opposite of what is in place today.

Believe it or not, I wasn't referring to you.

I only buy fishing tackle at Walmart, most of which is made here. My only other option is Dick's, which is owned by Walmart. I refuse to buy other stuff there because of the way they do things, I'll pay a little more for the lamp that isn't a fire hazard. However, most people don't give 2 shits about the ramifications of getting what they want, they just want it. People want cheap shit, and they don't care if it means someone else doesn't have a job because of it.

Originally Posted by DOMS

How so?

Two of many examples:

Wal-Mart Profits from Taxpayers
Home > Corporate Watch > Paying the Price at Wal-Mart

When Wal-Mart comes to town, consumers often pay more than they save. Not only does Wal-Mart ask taxpayers to subsidize the building of its giant retail stores, Wal-Mart pays its workers so little they regularly are forced to use emergency rooms and public services—at taxpayer expense.

First, the company usually asks for massive public tax subsidies and exemptions to build one of its big-box stores. Over the past 20 years, taxpayers have contributed at least $1 billion in subsidies to Wal-Mart stores and distribution centers, as well as to developers of shopping centers anchored by Wal-Mart stores, according to Good Jobs First, a nonprofit research group.

* A 2001 study commissioned by the city of Barnstable, Mass., found big-box retailers such as Wal-Mart annually depleted the town’s revenues by $794 per 1,000 square feet due to higher road maintenance costs and greater demand for public safety services.
* Elected officials in Cathedral City, Calif., gave Wal-Mart $1.8 million in tax rebates 10 years ago. Last year, when the city finally began getting its full $800,000 in annual sales taxes from the two stores, Wal-Mart decided to close them in 2005 and build a new supercenter in nearby Palm Desert. Cathedral City officials learned Wal-Mart was moving out after reading about it in the newspaper—at a time when the city already had a $3 million deficit.

Next, Wal-Mart makes taxpayers pick up the health care tab for its employees. While 66 percent of workers at large U.S. firms get health coverage on the job, fewer than half of Wal-Mart workers do, an October 2003 AFL-CIO report finds. As a result, Wal-Mart workers are forced to use emergency rooms and public services for their health care needs.

* The average Wal-Mart costs taxpayers an estimated $108,000 a year for its workers’ children who are enrolled in state children’s health insurance programs, according to Everyday Low Wages: The Hidden Price We All Pay for Wal-Mart.

Entire: Wal-Mart Profits from Taxpayers

Taxpayers should stop subsidizing Wal-Mart
Tina Dupuy

Wal-Mart is the biggest retailer in the world. It boasts of having 1.2 million Americans on their payroll. Its reported annual profits are around $13 billion. So it's safe to say since it is so big — and so ubiquitous — and so obviously successful — the government can now stop subsidizing it.

Entire: delawareonline ¦ The News Journal, Wilmington, Del. ¦ Taxpayers should stop subsidizing Wal-Mart

Wal-Mart pays employee shit. My is one of the ass manager at Wal-Mart and they pay him a little over $15 an hour.

I dread going into Walmart simply because the customer service sucks when I can't find what I need. Ask an employee a question and it's like I'm speaking Russian. I really don't give a shit about all the Walmart socio-economic debating.

That said, I'm a man who loves to shop....both a dream and a nightmare to the wife. "Stop buying clothes!" LOL

fuck walmart right in the face

I call it Mao Mart.

We don't have one in NYC.