Thread: Disguised as police officer, a Norwegian man kills AT LEAST 80 children ages 14-18/

Originally Posted by MDR

So, minus the rhetoric, in fantasyland? Every person on the planet is under threat. Everyone is vulnerable. Evil is ever present, and will never be eradicated. Again, execution is hardly the solution to anything. We should focus our energies on helping the people who lost friends and relatives yesterday, and not waste time on vengeance.

I would much prefer a world as you describe, where people are there to comfort the victims and help them rebuild their lives, but there's something in my heart of hearts that applauds wildly at the scenario depicted in the following clip.

Originally Posted by DOMS

So then what? Every sentence is fantasy? When did proper processing of the law become fantasy?

What's so hard about sentencing a man for murder, giving him one appeal within a certain period, failing that, he gets executed. That is how it should work, But, oh no, libtards insist they have several appeals taking as long as they want. That's further injustice to that already committed by the criminal.

I'd like to see a non-death penalty tax. If you don't back a proper processing of the death penalty, or the death penalty at all, you get to pay an extra an extra tax to keep the criminals alive. Yeah, that is fantasy, but I still like the idea.

Since it costs far more to execute someone than it does to imprision them for life, it seems the tax should be on those who still insist that execution is a viable alternative. If you want to change the judicial system, you aren't going to have much luck doing it by arguing for change on the internet. The justice system has checks and balances for good reason, and the system and developed and evolved along with the country. Do I agree with it in every way? Of course not. But I find debating it online to be a useless exercise.

Originally Posted by MDR

Since it costs far more to execute someone than it does to imprision them for life, it seems the tax should be on those who still insist that execution is a viable alternative.

Not if it's done correctly.

Originally Posted by MDR

If you want to change the judicial system, you aren't going to have much luck doing it by arguing for change on the internet.

You're right, unless we're solving or changing things, we shouldn't be talking about things. Make sure you hit the lights.

Originally Posted by MDR

The justice system has checks and balances for good reason, and the system and developed and evolved along with the country. Do I agree with it in every way? Of course not. But I find debating it online to be a useless exercise.

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by hypno

True enough he may say he is a "Christian" but like the SO many other crazy nut-jobs that say that and then do something this horrifying he has no clue what being a "Christian" really is. These crazies give real Christians a bad name. I believe, no thanks to this nut-job, that God does have these children with him now and when its his time he wont be going to heaven to see them again. The only weapon a real Christian uses is Love.

People can be so damn evil. I hope and pray for the victims and their families for help in this unimaginably horrifying time they now must face.

I am sorry I don't mean to go off on a sermon just that I feel so bad for these people as I am sure everyone here does as well.

No, those people aren't with God. They are in the fucking dirt now, and they are in the dirt because some religious nut. Right wing conservative Christian...what a surprise.

Originally Posted by MDR

Since it costs far more to execute someone than it does to imprision them for life, it seems the tax should be on those who still insist that execution is a viable alternative.

that is the problem, it needs to be changed, it should not cost more.

If you want to change the judicial system, you aren't going to have much luck doing it by arguing for change on the internet.

lol, really?

The justice system has checks and balances for good reason, and the system and developed and evolved along with the country. Do I agree with it in every way? Of course not. But I find debating it online to be a useless exercise.

you're right but ours does not seem to be evolving at all.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Wow, I didn't know that all governments were conservative.

that was the point. the countries that do have conservative governments are not democratic, not even close take Iran as an example.

there have been hundreds of inmates released from US prisons in recent decades due to DNA evidence some from death row and some from gen pop. based on that it's safe to say that some not guilty people have been murdered by the state. very easy to say fuck it when it isn't you.

the extremely violent and id based society that we have in the US seems to breed substantially more extremely violent offenders many times more than the other highly industrialized nations. putting an extremely violent offender to death is pure punishment as it doesn't help to solve the problem. the death penalty was used for hundreds of years all over the world yet there is no empirical data showing that it is indeed a proven deterrent.

if the state is going to murder people in the name of justice it can never get it wrong.

Yep, he'll probably get about 20 years.

He is a true christian solider of God!

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

Where did it say anything about his religion?

He is either christian or a jew. He was member of a norwegian forum which is against a multicultral socitiy, immigration and muslims.

This incident happend a mere 20 minute drive from my home and i know friends whom have lost people very close to them, it brings tears to my eyes.


This all feels so unreal, it all feels like a dream.



Had it only been a dream.

I was creeped out as hell when I heard that this guy quietly gave up when cops arrived. Didn't kill himself or suicide by cop.

My Way News - Suspect: Norway attacks 'marketing' for manifesto

To Anders Behring Breivik, the Norway explosion and shootings that killed at least 93 people were a "marketing method" for his manifesto, which not only lays out his extreme nationalist philosophy but reveals his attack methods and encourages like-thinkers to do their own mass killing.

93 people, 86 children dead. All to create interest in his manifesto. Spark a revolution.

He used dum dum rounds on kids. He doesn't feel the slightest bit of guilt about this. He feels like he's a God damn revolutionary for killing children.

Why blame the entire Christianity just because of one misguided man's action? It is like blaming the entire Islam just because of some terrorists. My parents were devout christians and they were wonderful people.

that is wrong on so many levels.. this man should be chained down & get eaten alive by rats. like wtf..... i still don't see why this isn't on the front page of the paper.

Originally Posted by buddhaluv

that is wrong on so many levels.. this man should be chained down & get eaten alive by rats. like wtf..... i still don't see why this isn't on the front page of the paper.

It is shocking without needing any journalistic flair. It shows how much evil one man is capable of doing to children.

I think the best thing would be to keep this guy locked up and keep him quiet. I honestly don't believe he is crazy, which is the part that scares me about this whole situation. He seems to have planned out everything thus far, a fact that I can't seem to shake with him allowing himself to be captured. I am somewhat worried about what else he has planned.

With regards to his manifesto, it's bad enough that it's is already online, but his poison doesn't need to reach any more outlets than it already has.

Supposedly a lot of his manifesto is a cut and paste job of Ted Kaczynski. He is still capable of great evil through that writing and through the copy cats and people that believe he is right.

The death toll was at 93 last I heard. People like him need to be hung on the spot!

He should have killed those politicians, not innocent people.

If this guy had done what he did in Malaysia where I used to live, he would be dead by now.

Originally Posted by Chubby

Why blame the entire Christianity just because of one misguided man's action? It is like blaming the entire Islam just because of some terrorists. My parents were devout christians and they were wonderful people.

so true,Christian terrorist would not be representative of all Christians, but such association is still accorded to non -christian religions. The stupidity of it all has nothing to do with religion anymore. Religion is the scape goat... This behavier is not about religion anymore its about "They hurt me so I will hurt them back." an all sides sit back an scream "holy war!" when in truth they all know damn well its nothing more than a blood fued that no one even remembers who started it. I keep imagining an alien civilization visiting earth and seeing how silly we all are fighting the most overr things that we all have the most in common, Logically the Jews/christians/muslims should be on the monotheistic side warring agains the buddists and hindus and other pagans..

Islam is a sick cult.

Europe must rid itselves of muslims or the continent will devolve into a shithole like the middle east.

There is no such thing as a moderate muslim; you're either muslim, or you are not.

--Former Prime Minister of Malyasia

i know too many moderate muslims ( many are scientists and doctors at EMory ), my neighbors, and patients to paint them with the same brush as their sick collegues. And dont put Bahais up there with their wahabbis, the bahais are much more feministic and antiviolence than any christian counterpart. And lets not forget the serbian christian orthodoxy murders of muslims killed more than 9-11 but that does not count in western eyes but you can bet it counts in muslim eyes.

http://asiasociety.org/policy/govern...ysias-response

i liked this guy, good economically for malaysia,but he was a shameful politician and antisemitic as well, unfortunately malaysia has had it share of whackos as well.

once again, religion is used by both sides to leverage their feelings and antagonism towards each other, if we all stopped and became athiests or buddists ( the latter dont infight) or reliaze how humans play religion to their benefit, this world would be a better place.

^ There is no such thing as a "moderate" muslim.

I'm not just talking about the Quran, but also the Hadiths.

The hadiths are weird, sick - and followed by these people.

Muslims will NEVER be able to be a part of western society.