Thread: Foreign students walk off Hershey’s factory job in protest

Originally Posted by LAM

* Ah yes....capitalism in the US...what a fucking joke

Corrected for accuracy: "Ah yes....capitalism in the US when the government intervenes...what a fucking joke."

rediculous lol

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Corrected for accuracy: "Ah yes....capitalism in the US when the government intervenes...what a fucking joke."

How does the government have anything to do with working conditions once these kids get in to their jobs?

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Corrected for accuracy: "Ah yes....capitalism in the US when the government intervenes...what a fucking joke."

you do realize that corporations do not exist in a true free market system don't you?

government created the corporation, it was not there before...

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Corrected for accuracy: "Ah yes....capitalism in the US when the government intervenes...what a fucking joke."

Yeah the government creates an incentive for businesses to hire these foreign workers then people freak out when they(businesses) do.

Originally Posted by troubador

Yeah the government creates an incentive for businesses to hire these foreign workers then people freak out when they(businesses) do.

because the people that work for the big corps lobby for them, that's what lobbyist do....government just doesn't change laws and regulations arbitrarily.

Originally Posted by LAM

The J-1 visa program brings foreign students to the country to work for two months and learn English, and was designed in part to fill seasonal tourism jobs at resorts and seaside towns. The 400 students employed at a Pennsylvania factory that makes Hershey's candies told The New York Times that even though they make $8.35 an hour, their rent and program fees are deducted from their paychecks, leaving them with less money than they spent to get the visas and travel to the country in the first place.

What a fucking scam.

Hershey - what a pile of shite.

I remember taking the tour when I was 14.

Hey, since Americans are getting screwed, let's screw foreign students on a J-1 visa.

the supply chain of cocoa for Hershey also includes child labor....profits before people

New Evidence of Trafficking, Child, Forced Labor in Cocoa | Change.org News

http://childlabor-payson.org/Tulane%...l%20Report.pdf

Damn near everyone of you missed the big picture.

First off, the staffing companies are running a scam that essentially brings foreigners into the country to work shit jobs that pay less than what their total expenses are. Essentially, the staffing companies are acting as a proverbial pimp that traps these workers. The staffing companies pocket as much of the worker's money as possible.

It really doesn't have anything to do with the government. It may not even have anything to do with Hershey's. Hershey's is probably paying the staffing company a descent amount of money for each worker, but the workers never see it. I looked up the story, but couldn't find how much Hershey's paid to the staffing company. I also cant; find out who the staffing company is which should be a critical fucking component to this story.

Hershey knows exactly what they are doing...the 3rd party is noting but BS trying to remove "responsibility" from Hershey. it's one of the oldest and most obvious tricks in the book..."we didn't know"...bullshit excuse

if you read the stuff that I posted it explains more about the "lack" of effort on Hershey to identify problems with child labor in it's cocoa supply chain...instead they increased monies for advertising

Hershey has been around since the late 1800's they know exactly wtf they are doing...

Originally Posted by LAM

Hershey knows exactly what they are doing...the 3rd party is noting but BS trying to remove "responsibility" from Hershey. it's one of the oldest and most obvious tricks in the book..."we didn't know"...bullshit excuse

if you read the stuff that I posted it explains more about the "lack" of effort on Hershey to identify problems with child labor in it's cocoa supply chain...instead they increased monies for advertising

Hershey has been around since the late 1800's they know exactly wtf they are doing...

I am sure you may be right, but unfortunately you have to go with the facts. The fact is, nobody know how much Hershey's was paying the staffing agency for each worker.

Originally Posted by KelJu

It really doesn't have anything to do with the government.

These foreign students were sponsored by the State Department under this program. They were also issued a J-1 visa.

It may not even have anything to do with Hershey's.

It has EVERYTHING to do with Hersheys.

Why is it that this is so obvious to a bunch of foreigners but Americans put up with this every day?

There is a collective mentality that any work is better than no work, and that you should thank God you have a job at all and stop bitching. I noticed this three days into my old job at Burlington Coat Factory. There were people working there that started working when the minimum wage was 6$ and some change and had only got a raise when min. wage was moved up to 7.25. Then I get hired and start out getting paid 7.25, which was the same amount as people that had worked there 5 years!

Every morning there would be a staff meeting and every day like they would say something like "it's hard times but we have to be thankful we have a job". Right after saying that they would read the sales numbers and compare them to the same date the year before, guess what, they were up drastically almost every day.

By my 6th month working there I had assumed the responsibilities of an assistant manager's position in the receiving department, when the manager was out I was the one in charge of handling paper work and making sure everything ran smoothly. They never gave me an official title because they didn't wanna have to pay me more and they made sure they never gave me more than 36 hours a week so i wouldn't count as full-time employee.

Finally I said fuck it, my whole check went towards paying for daycare for my son and gas to get to work. I was lucky if I had 15 bucks left by the end of the week. When I decided that I would be better of going to school and save me the daycare costs, people damn near lost their minds. I heard things like " you don't know how lucky you are to have a job right now" and "Men are suppose to be working". When I did the math for people and show them I made 0 dollars working there, they still felt the same way. The company had pounded into their heads that they should feel lucky the company even let them stay and work that shitty job for 7 bucks an hour and if they left their life would be ruined and they would be nothing but deadbeats.

here is a little math

144 (the most hours a non-manager would get a month if they were lucky)x7.25= 1044

1044-650 (cheap rent)= 394
394-400 (food for 2-3 people for 1 month)=-6
-gas
-daycare
-heating/electricity
-water bill

And they should feel lucky? the stockroom I worked in was hard labor, every truck loaded and unloaded by hand and breaks were short if any at all.

Then people wonder why folks stay on welfare.

Almost everyone i talked to there had been in school at one point but when they company found out, their schedule would magically change to the exact times when they were suppose to be in class. This happened to almost every single person that had been in school while working there. They would literally post your new schedule 2 days before its first day so there was no way in hell for you to plan anything more than a couple days in advance. And yeah, no sick days, no personal days off, nothing what so ever if you weren't a manager.

This is how screwed up the company is. During christmas, they have what they call a "coat drive". Thats where people can leave their old coats in a bin by the front door as donations to people that need it. While people gave a coat at the front, we in the back were cutting up brand new "defected" coats and throwing them in the dumpster. The reason we had to cut them up was so homeless people wouldn't come and get them out of the dumpster.

company got a tax break for the charity work and a tax write-off for the "Defected items".

Here is a picture I took one of the days we had to do this.

the national IQ based on PISA scores ranks the US in the lower 25% of the OECD.

the growth of gross domestic product per capita can be derived as a linear function of the percentage of people with an IQ above 105 and its underlying frequency of a hypothetical major gene of intelligence.

in the US the average IQ is 98

Originally Posted by Gissurjon

Why is it that this is so obvious to a bunch of foreigners but Americans put up with this every day?

There is a collective mentality that any work is better than no work, and that you should thank God you have a job at all and stop bitching.....

.....Every morning there would be a staff meeting and every day like they would say something like "it's hard times but we have to be thankful we have a job".

Most (meaning over 50%) of Americans are fucking brainwashed.

Critical thinking skills are very minimal if existent at all.

Originally Posted by LAM

the national IQ based on PISA scores ranks the US in the lower 25% of the OECD.

the growth of gross domestic product per capita can be derived as a linear function of the percentage of people with an IQ above 105 and its underlying frequency of a hypothetical major gene of intelligence.

in the US the average IQ is 98

LAM,

I want to learn more about this.

Can you show me some sources?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

LAM,

I want to learn more about this.

Can you show me some sources?

Thanks.

National IQ Means Transformed from Programme for International Student
Assessment (PISA) Scores, and their Underlying Gene Frequencies
http://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/14600...aper_14600.pdf

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

Most (meaning over 50%) of Americans are fucking brainwashed.

Critical thinking skills are very minimal if existent at all.

the US has constantly ranked at the bottom of the OECD in terms of critical thinking skills...