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Expedite small business loans through the Small Business Administration and Treasury Department to help firms expand, retool and hire.

Admit Obamacare is failure and repeal it. Buisnesses are holding on to cash and not hiring due to the anticipation of the new healthcare cost that will be mandated.

Get rid of all the bullshit red tape and regulations so small buisness has a shot at growing.

That's a start

Originally Posted by ExLe

Expedite small business loans through the Small Business Administration and Treasury Department to help firms expand, retool and hire.

Admit Obamacare is failure and repeal it. Buisnesses are holding on to cash and not hiring due to the anticipation of the new healthcare cost that will be mandated.

Get rid of all the bullshit red tape and regulations so small buisness has a shot at growing.

That's a start

GDP has slowed for 2 main reasons the personal savings rate has increased and is rising steadily and stimulus via fed spending has ended.

businesses have been increasingly holding onto cash more and more since 1970 it has nothing to do with healthcare costs and definitely not "obamacare". regardless company's have been passing on a greater cost of healthcare and other benefits on to the employee for the past 20-30 years so i'm not quite sure where you have been working. higher profits means higher share prices, that's what the game is about now for the publicly trading firm/company/corp.

small business in the service sector have to compete with big businesses in the service sector as this is the largest growing job market in the US right now. anyone that has read the OECD guidelines for multinational knows how this is the new business model and has been for decades. passing the cost of benefits down to the employee and reducing payroll from manpower deductions are the 2 most used methods for firms to increase profits. with high unemployment this further forces wages down in the low skilled labor market. anyone that has read the 2010 ILO Global Wage Report has seen the data on how low wages in the US helps cause recessions and contributes to slower recovery's. and with the national share of income going to labor hitting a 70 year low in 2007 and now fiscal contraction of gov stimulus when unemployment is still high this recovery will last until at least 2014. wages in the markets that are showing record levels of productivity are still stagnant.

neither fiscal contraction of gov stimulus or increasing employment in low wage labor jobs is going to increase GDP.

what people don't understand is that the economy is always changing. which means methods of recovery used to bring the country out of recession previously won't work now. we never recovered from the recession of 2001 first of all. so then you go back to the methods used for recovery under Reagan and Carter neither are applicable today in an economy based on consumer consumption and capital investment.

So are you happy with the Obama presidency? Did you get the hope and change he promised? Are you voting for him in 2012?

Originally Posted by LAM

I had a greater understand of economics at age 10 then you do now...

You seem to be very full of your self to make a comment like that. As the previous member said where is the hope and change Obama was supposed to bring. Obama didnt help anyone and looks like he made a bigger mess then bush did 10x fold

Originally Posted by Little Wing

i was going to say "Chappaquiddick anyone?"

I vacationed there for six days a few weeks ago. It was fantastic...nice, quiet island without a lot of people. *sigh* Wish I was there right now.

I took pictures by the Kennedy Death Bridge. You've got to be trying to drive your car off that thing. Talk about being way the hell out in the middle of nowhere...

Originally Posted by FUZO

You seem to be very full of your self to make a comment like that. As the previous member said where is the hope and change Obama was supposed to bring. Obama didnt help anyone and looks like he made a bigger mess then bush did 10x fold

every single method of job creation that Obama tried was sidelined by the GOP. they allowed the BAB program to expire and GOP governors spent stimulus monies on supply-side tax cuts and paying down debt, none of which it was intended for.

my guess is you don't read any of the papers from the EPI or Bookings Institute because if you did then you would know this is fact.

Originally Posted by RAWS n More

Hopefully the president will rot!!!

Im a blue bloodied American, he is not. Fuck Obama and the camel he rode in on. How arrogant are you when you are his age and have 2 biographies written already. I can't wait to the election so i can watch his ass get torn apart. What a flaming queerboat he is. They should leave his relative and deport him

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Originally Posted by ExLe

So are you happy with the Obama presidency? Did you get the hope and change he promised? Are you voting for him in 2012?

I wasn't planning on anything changing. the last time a POTUS changed the economy was when Reagan took the US from being manufacturing based to using monetarism. and as the current economy shows that has run it's course over the past 30 years and was unsustainable. the US needs to form a balanced economy, this is investment strategy 101. it's funny how everyone forgets the basics.

anybody that has a firm grasp on neo-liberalism knows this thing is going to run it's course, it can be slowed down but never stopped.

I surely am not going to vote for a supply-side politician, you would have to be a fool at this point to believe in supply side mythology (as it's not hard science) but pure political economics. supply-side economics has caused the death of the middle-class so continuing it surely isn't going to bring it back.

Originally Posted by LAM

I wasn't planning on anything changing. the last time a POTUS changed the economy was when Reagan took the US from being manufacturing based to using monetarism. and as the current economy shows that has run it's course over the past 30 years and was unsustainable. the US needs to form a balanced economy, this is investment strategy 101. it's funny how everyone forgets the basics.

anybody that has a firm grasp on neo-liberalism knows this thing is going to run it's course, it can be slowed down but never stopped.

I surely am not going to vote for a supply-side politician, you would have to be a fool at this point to believe in supply side mythology (as it's not hard science) but pure political economics. supply-side economics has caused the death of the middle-class so continuing it surely isn't going to bring it back.

So is that a No?

Originally Posted by ExLe

So is that a No?

It is exactly as I expected, no change. the unemployment rate was 9% when Obama was sworn in and the current rate is the same. GDP has continued to slow as is expected when gov stimulus is contracted during recession recovery with high unemployment. all this stuff is US economic recession history 101.

the recession recovery of 2001 was jobless as was the recovery of 2007 as will the recovery of EVERY SINGLE recession from now on.

balancing the fed budget does not increase GDP or boost real incomes or reduce unemployment. these are far more important than a balanced budget right now. but the obstructionists on the right want to tank the economy for them the long term health of the party is more important than the people.


ABANDONING WHAT WORKS (AND MOST OTHER THINGS, TOO)
Expansionary fiscal policy is still the best tool for boosting jobs
http://www.epi.org/page/-/old/briefi...29.pdf?nocdn=1

Why are you avoiding the question. Are you happy with the Obama presidency and will you be voting for him in 2012?

I think you are suffering from voters remorse. If Bush was still in office you would not be saying it's economics recession history 101 you would ripping into Bush about how incompitant he is. Let me repost my earlier comment to you
Obama had a majority in the House and the Senate for 2 years and didn't do shit, but borrow 1 trillion from China and pass his stupid health care law that is getting overturned in the courts. He could have changed and done anything during this time. His policies in these 2 years lost him the House and almost the Senate because the American people were not on board with his crappy agenda. So stop blaming the GOP for obstructing, that is why the American people voted the GOP back in.

His healthcare bill is so bad not even his own Democratic party would pass it with a public option that he wanted. He had to beg and add tons of pork to the bill just so democrats would pass it. If you hate Bush you should hate Obama, he has followed the same policies as Bush.

1st he borrowed 1 trillion and gave a blank check to buisnesses and banks with no ristriction, didn't give a crap about the people losing their homes. You claim buisnesses and Gov. didn't use the money for what it was intended for. Then why the hell didn't Obama add a clause to only appropriate the money towards job creation?

He gave a blank check of a trillion to wallstreet and banks

Cash for clunkers was a waiste of borrowed money

Then he sent 30,000 more troops into Afganistan for a surge, like Bush's surge in Iraq

Then he extended the Bush tax cuts for the rich

Then he started another war in Libya

Raised the debt ceiling without raising taxes, but by entitlement cuts

Credit rating got down graded by S&P

Promised to close Gitmo during his campaign, gitmo now has more prisoners than during the Bush admin.

Allows anti-terror rendition (torture) to continue. (I bet you were calling Bush a war criminal)

Promised umemployment wouln't rise above %8 if we gave big buisness and banks trillion in stimulus. We are at %9.1

Now do all these actions look like it was from a Democrat? If Bush did all these things you would not be defending them. Obama fooled you and everybody else who voted for him, he has added more to the deficit in under 3 years then Bush did in 8 years.

And all he does is blame, blame, blame. Oh the sunami in Japan, the crisis in Europe, the GOP, the Tea Party. He is no leader. He lost the house for the democrats because he didn't do squat for 2 years. And you still support him.
He still has you fooled, Even his African American support has dropped from %90 to %80 because they see he hasn't done squat.

But what did people expect from a 2 year junior senator community organizer who has never ran anything in his life. He is just way in over his head.

So do you support any of the above actions he has done?

Definition of Hypocrit



According to Obama's own words he is unpatriotic.

Originally Posted by Curt James

^^^^ Jesus. This is the text accompanying that YouTube. I hope it's false. Never wise to speak ill of the dead, but man, oh, man.

Ted Kennedy making excuses for driving drunk and causing Mary Jo Kopechne to drown in his overturned car. The water was only about 6 feet deep with no current based on police reports at the time. Police diver John Farrar's testimony suggested that she survived for as long as two hours in the submerged automobile by breathing a pocket of trapped air. Kennedy spent the nine hours after the accident attempting to cover-up his involvement, while Mary Jo Kopechne was left to die in his submerged automobile.

Dems and many unintelligent American's loved Ted Kennedy; I saw him for what he was, guilty of vehicular manslaughter who got off because of his name (hell it may have been a murder charge for all I know). Dude was a prick and should have rotted in a jail sell for a long time for that. Never once did my parents not remind me of the trash that he was no matter what "good" he did for the country, if any.

Originally Posted by ExLe

Definition of Hypocrit



According to Obama's own words he is unpatriotic.

I have seen that and so many of his other "campaign promises" that just prove he is completely full of shit. I may lean right but lately no one is doing shit to help this country, least of all our leaderless President who just spouts the same shit day in and day out, pulled by the strings of the Bilderberg Group. Don't know what that is, do some reading and realize that our elected officials have no interest in making life better for us, it is quite the contrary.

Very interesting stuff going on here. My take is similar to LAM's, albeit from a different angle. 2 years ago companies weren't hiring because of the uncertainty of the Bush tax cuts. Give them the tax cuts and people will be spending their way out of the recession. Well, tax cuts get renewed and companies don't hire. Now companies aren't hiring because of the healthcare bill? That is ludicrous, if anything the healthcare bill will lower costs because the pool of people using the healthcare system and paying in will go up. As it is now, everyone uses the healthcare system and 40 million fewer pay in. I agree that Obama has been a bad president, but if you believe any of the propaganda coming out of the GOP's mouth you are incapable of intelligent thought. If one of them gets elected, they will continue driving us in to the ditch Bush Jr. dug. Obama isn't digging us out of the ditch, but at least he's not digging us deeper. Do you honestly believe that this country would be better if the corporations had more money to do what they want with? As it is, right now, these companies are raking in record profits. They reward the workforce by not hiring or giving raises while they sit on $2 trillion, even though Joe Average can't even afford to pay his mortgage or rent. Do you really think the way to fix this problem is to give more of the money to the people who are deciding not to spend $2 trillion right now? Do you really think they are going to do what is truly in YOUR best interest? If you couldn't figure out by now that if a republican is elected president that there will be no stimulus for you there is a touch of the retard in ya. On top of that those companies hoarding money will be paying LESS taxes so that you get LESS services. Services like fixing our shitty roads, being able to work for 45 years of your life and not have to worry about working or providing health insurance should you make it to 65 and possibly be in poor health or unable to work, school loans so you can afford the $500,00 worth of education you will be providing for each of your kids so they can compete for shitty low-paying jobs, and of course education. Privatizing education would be the dumbest thing we could possibly do, it works so well for our healthcare system. All I needed to hear was 1 republican, just 1, say something that involved creating jobs without involving giving more money to the hoarders or giving big business more pull in the country. They are not going to do a single thing that will benefit the middle class, a single thing. 95% of the people in this country will be in a worse situation if a republican gets elected, yet 50% will vote for a Republican. It defies all logic. And there are people who openly believe and are proud to admit they are that stupid. They are called the tea party, or GOP-Now with more retard...and less of that high filootin' book-learning.