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dont do it,way to much trouble down there. Are you a resident of mexico? look into that also they have some strange laws when you are not.Costa rica is a better choice.

Originally Posted by sscar

dont do it,way to much trouble down there. Are you a resident of mexico? look into that also they have some strange laws when you are not.Costa rica is a better choice.

Really, I guess we need to do a lot more research. I thought Costa Rica was worse in regards to crime and corruption?

I have an aunt adn Unclwe that have a place in Mexico. it is liek a US community. I'll try and get you the info
They stay ther 6 months a year

Cool, please do!

My wife's aunt lived in Guadalajara for almost 25 years. The old gal loved it there. Of course she was in an American/European retirement enclave with armed guards, walls and gates. When I say armed, I mean select fire weaponry. Unless the laws have changed, in Mexico you can own the house, but the government owns the land. There has been plenty of times where a gringo bought a house only to have the local government officials take the land back for some reason. Also, again unless the rules changed, Mexico has squatter's rights laws. If you leave your place unattended for as little as six months and someone moves in, you're pretty much fucked. You have to go to court to show the reason the new people shouldn't live in your place. Mexican courts and lawyers are notoriously corrupt. The one who can bribe the biggest usually wins. And of course there is a full scale war going on between the drug lords and the military. In most major cities, people are kidnapped for ransom at the rate of eight a day. If you live there, look like you have a few bucks, you and your family is a target. If you have a blonde hot looking 14-16 year old daughter, your are in double trouble. White slavery is alive and well in Mexico. I live about 80 miles from the border. We use to spend a lot of free time at Rocky Point (Puerto Pinasco), Saint John's and Santa Rosalia. Right now you couldn't pay me to go down there.

I agree with Costa Rica. Lots of expat Americans down there. Belize is another really nice place. And both of these countries are American friendly. Belize is the cheaper and more friendly of the two.

Costa Rica and Belize are much better options with regards to safety and gov't treatment of Americans (tax liability, foreign national zoning etc).

My mother bought ocean front property on an island of the mainland in Bezlie (Caye Caulker) Caye Caulker Map - What's on That Island?

2 buddies of mine moved to Tamarindo, Costa Rica...they opened up boutique real estate company specializing with US nationals. If you are really interested PM me and I can put you in touch. They aren't pushy sales folks and I'm sure they'd know where to point you if you're researching or even looking for more.

Hope to be in your position in 10yrs!

Originally Posted by Prince

Really, I guess we need to do a lot more research. I thought Costa Rica was worse in regards to crime and corruption?

the laws in Mexico and Latin American are VERY different from the US. and there is still quite a bit of corruption on LE. in early 2000 Belize was a major recipient of stolen vehicles from the US (southern Cali, etc.), it was crazy. gov officials didn't care if the car was stolen from the US, but eventually once that got in the media that started to fight that problem. the poverty rate is the same as the US right around 16% so tourists are prey to the typical street crime (jewelry, passports, etc.).

one of the IM members Tough Old Man (from years ago) lives in Baja. I lost touch with him so i'm not sure how he's doing these days. he really didn't have any complaints except for the fact that when you are an American living in one of those countries, everything is automatically your fault, traffic accidents, etc.

Originally Posted by Prince

Cool, please do!

San Miguel de Allende in the state of Guanajuato. We are 175 miles nw of Mexico City.

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You'll never be able to own the land unless you're married to a mexican born there or become one you can own the house but not the land.strange laws and the one with the biggest wallet always wins in court over in mexico..Note: This is an automated message

interesting read: Buying a House in Mexico

CAN FOREIGNERS REALLY OWN PROPERTY IN MEXICO?

Yes, Americans and other foreigners may obtain direct ownership of property in the interior of Mexico. However, under Mexican law, foreigners cannot own property outright within the restricted zone. Instead, a real estate trust must be set up to hold title for the foreigner. Since foreigners are not able to enter into contracts in buy real estate, they must have a bank act on their behalf, much as a trust is use to hold property for minors because they also can not contract. The following is a brief outline of the law regarding such trust, known as "fideicomisos", but potential buyers should always get advice and have all real estate transactions overview by a licensed Mexican attorney.


WHO'S INVOLVED IN REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS IN MEXICO?

Normally, there are three to four players involved in any real estate transaction in the restricted zone:

• A real estate company
• The buyer's lawyer
• A bank
• A public notary

All four are helpful in their respective areas in assisting with real estate transactions. Transactions outside of the restricted zone do not involve a bank since it is not necessary to establish a real estate trust in those areas. Otherwise the transactions are much the same.

Because of the similarities of real estate transactions in general, it is easy to assume that the basic terms and principles which are familiar in the United States also hold true in Mexico. This assumption becomes easier to make when United States real estate terminology is adopted for transactions in Mexico. Much of the paperwork is similar, if not exactly the same, as that used in the US. Although, there are many aspects of Mexican real estate transactions that are identical to procedures carried out in the United States, there are many aspects that are completely different. As a rule, a foreigner should assume nothing.

Mexican real estate transactions are not carried out in the same manner as United States real estate transactions. The buyer must retain professionals to assist in the transaction. Mexico has yet to regulate real estate transactions. Real estate agents and brokers are not legally licensed in Mexico. Consequently, a foreign buyer cannot always depend on the normal safeguards that would be applied to real estate transactions in the United States. The old saying "let the buyer beware" is very appropriate. Anyone can set up a real estate company in Mexico. There are no special requirements or brokerage licenses to obtain. A would-be real estate agent merely has to establish a Mexican corporation, obtain a work visa, and he is in business.

There are good reasons why the real estate industry in the United States is highly regulated. Until the real estate industry is regulated in Mexico, there will always be some real estate companies who prefer that buyers know as little as possible about real estate transactions. After all, a buyer cannot ask questions if he does not have any knowledge of the laws.

Currently there is nothing similar to a Real Estate Commissioner or a Department of Real Estate in Mexico. Some states are beginning to look at some kind of real estate legislation, but it might be some time before this is a reality. The American Embassy and the American consulates in Mexico are good places to start when trying to determine if a real estate company is reputable. Some of the real estate companies have established quite a reputation for themselves at some of the Consulates.

A Mexican attorney should be involved to draw up contracts and to review the conditions and terms of sale. Additionally, an attorney can do a title search and point out any problems or alternatives a buyer may have. The buyer should always have his or her own attorney rather than using the attorney of the seller or some attorney used by a real estate company free of charge. As the old saying goes, you get what you pay for, and usually if someone's services are offered free of charge you are probably paying for them in some other way. Legally, only a licensed Mexican attorney should provide advice on the law. If an attorney is licensed in Mexico he should be able to produce a "cdula profesional." This document is a registered license to practice law in Mexico and includes a photo of the attorney and his signature. To be sure that an attorney is licensed in Mexico, a foreign buyer should ask to see the attorney's license, or have the attorney's license number included in a retainer agreement before employing any services.

American attorneys are not licensed to practice law in Mexico and should not give advice on Mexican Law. I should clarify, here, that I am referring to individuals who are licensed to practice law in the United States, and not merely individuals who are citizens of that country. There are currently very few Americans who are licensed to practice law in Mexico. The fact that a person is licensed to practice law in the United States in no way allows him or her to practice law in Mexico: Mexican or United States law.

Besides formalizing your real estate transaction, an attorney can be very helpful in saving you money. This is because attorneys are involved in many different transactions and have contacts with banks, notaries, and the Mexican government on a regular basis. Because of this they are aware of the most competitive cost and fees involved in a transaction and can make sure that the buyer is given the best possible prices. An attorney can also inform the buyer regarding his or her legal options and by doing so can make sure that no opportunities are missed: tax planning considerations, closing costs which should be paid by the seller, and ways of taking title to the trust rights which make sense for the particular circumstances of a specific buyer. Very often one piece of good advice can save the buyer thousands of dollars in tax savings or other savings when the buyer eventually sells the property.

When looking for an attorney it is important to remember that any Mexican attorney can normally handle a real estate transaction. The buyer is not limited to only the local attorneys where the property is located. All real estate transactions involving a trust are governed by federal law. This means that all such transactions are carried out the same way regardless if the property is in Cancun or Los Cabos.


THE RESTRICTED ZONE AND "FIDEICOMISOS"

The law declares that the Mexican nation has original ownership to all land and water in Mexico, as well as minerals, salts, ore deposits, natural gas and oil; but that such ownership may be assigned to individuals.

The Mexican Constitution prohibits direct ownership of real estate by foreigners in what has come to be known as the "restricted zone." The restricted zone encompasses all land located within 100 kilometers (about 62 miles) of any Mexican border, and within 50 kilometers (about 31 miles) of any Mexican coastline. However, in order to permit foreign investment in these areas, the Mexican government created the "fideicomiso," (FEE-DAY-E-CO-ME-SO) which is, roughly translated, a real estate trust. Essentially, this type of trust is similar to trusts set up in the United States, but a Mexican bank must be designated as the trustee and, as such, has title to the property and is the owner of record. The Mexican Government created the "fideicomiso" to reconcile the problems involved in developing the restricted zone and to attract foreign capital. This enabled foreigners, as beneficiaries of the trusts, to enjoy unrestricted use of land located in the restricted zone without violating the law.

A "fideicomiso" is a trust agreement created for the benefit of a foreign buyer, executed between a Mexican bank and the seller of property in the restricted zone. Foreign buyers cannot own real estate in the restricted zone due to Constitutional restrictions. The bank acts on behalf of the foreign buyer, taking title to real property. The bank, as trustee, buys the property for the foreigner, then has a fiduciary obligation to follow instructions given by the foreigner who is the trust beneficiary. The trust beneficiary retains and enjoys all the rights of ownership while the bank holds title to the property. The foreigner is entitled to use, enjoy, and even sell the property that is held in trust at its market value to any eligible buyer.

In order to allow foreigners to enter into the agreement contained in the Calvo Clause, Mexico requires all foreigners to apply for and obtain a permit from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs prior to contracting to acquire real estate in Mexico. This is currently done by the trustee/bank at the time a real estate trust is set-up.

Given the changes made for 1997 in the foreign investment Law, and the fact that a buyer can now apply for and obtain a trust permit in a matter of days, it is always better to secure the trust permit from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs before entering into any contract.

The bank, as trustee, must get a permit from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to establish a real estate trust and acquire rights on real property located within the restricted zone. The purpose of the trust is to allow the trust's beneficiary the use and exploitation of the property without constituting real property rights. The beneficiaries of the trust (fideicomisarios) may be:

• Mexican corporations with foreign investment
• Foreign individuals or legal entities

The law defines "use" and "exploitation" as the right to use or possess the property, including its fruits, products, or any revenue that results from its operation and exploitation by third parties or from the bank/trustee.

The law does not clarify how trust permits will be issued. Article 14 of the law states that the Ministry shall decide on issuing the permits "...considering the economic and social benefit, which the realization of such operations imply for the nation." The basic criteria used to determine such benefits are likely to change somewhat with the publication of the new foreign investment regulations. However, it is reasonable to anticipate that some of the unwritten rules used by the Mexican government in the area of real estate trusts will be included in the new foreign investment regulations. It is also possible that some of the confusing elements will be eliminated. It is important to understand the application of the current regulations, even if they are going to be replaced, as well as some of the unwritten policies the government has used in the past, to better understand what criteria will be used by the Ministry in the future.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs must grant any petition for a trust permit that complies with the stipulated requirements within 5 working days following the date of its presentation to the Ministry's central office in Mexico City. It must be granted in 30 days if the application is submitted to one of the Ministry's state offices. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs must confirm the registration of any property acquired by foreign-owned Mexican corporations a maximum period of 15 days following the filing of the petition. In both cases, if the maximum period passes with no action by the Ministry, the trust permit or registration are considered authorized.

There is a common misconception among foreigners investing in Mexico that once the trust expires, the beneficiary loses all rights and benefits of the sale of the property held in trust. This is not the case. On the contrary, the beneficiary has a contractual right under the trust agreement with the Mexican bank to all benefits that may result from the use or sale of that property, even though he does not hold title to the property. Under Mexican Law, the bank, as trustee, has a fiduciary obligation to respect the rights of the beneficiary.

A real estate trust is not a lease. The beneficiary can instruct the bank to sell or lease the property at any time. The beneficiary can develop and use the property to his liking and benefit, within the provisions of the law. Generally, the law allows most activities engaged in by foreigners.

http://www.experience-san-miguel-de-allende.com/index.html

if not a Mexican, you cant really own it in any permanent way

Originally Posted by dogsoldier

My wife's aunt lived in Guadalajara for almost 25 years. The old gal loved it there. (snip) White slavery is alive and well in Mexico. I live about 80 miles from the border. We use to spend a lot of free time at Rocky Point (Puerto Pinasco), Saint John's and Santa Rosalia. Right now you couldn't pay me to go down there.

I agree with Costa Rica. Lots of expat Americans down there. Belize is another really nice place. And both of these countries are American friendly. Belize is the cheaper and more friendly of the two.

John Romano wrote an article about Mexico. Here's a relevant section:

"I've owned property and have done business in Mexico since 1982 and I've lived there permanently for five years in either Puerto Vallarta or Guadalajara. These are a resort beach town and a bustling metropolis, respectively, and I've got to tell you — Mexico is a true bodybuilder's paradise."

And the entire article:

Exodus; No Problema!

By John Romano
April 3, 2009

Open your eyes and look within
Are you satisfied with the life you're living?
We know where we're going; we know where we're from
We're leaving Babylon, we're going to the fatherland
"Exodus, Movement of Jah People" - Bob Marley

Someone asked me today if I miss living in Mexico. Of course I do. The fact that I'm living again in the United States was a notion totally inconceivable when I moved down to Mexico, permanently, in 1999. I had moved there with my wife and son for good. Unfortunately, my so-called "partner in life" had other ideas and ultimately forced a very unfortunate hand.

I've spent the last five years missing every bit of the amazing life I had down there and counting the days until I can move back. In the mean time I'm noticing that I'm not alone in realizing that earning dollars and spending Pesos is an economic paradise.

The exchange rate today is up to 15:1. You get an awful lot for your money in Mexico. You also get a lot freedom in Mexico; much more than in the US despite all our very technical Bills and documents and laws insuring our freedom. In Mexico, if you behave yourself and don't bother anyone you can pretty much do whatever you want. For the most part, any matter concerning law enforcement is easily dealt with, especially if you speak Spanish.

For a bodybuilder looking for a stress-free existence; able to afford a beautiful place to live, great weather year-round, good clean food so cheap you feel guilty paying for it, great gyms, and the luxuries that are so affordable and readily available-- maids, drivers, gardeners, delivery services. Bottom line, you couldn't ask for a better bodybuilder incubator than a resort town in Mexico. Especially when you consider the fact that you can pursue bodybuilding to the ultimate degree without ever having to look over your shoulder.

My argument to expatriate yourself is simple. If a situation deteriorates to an unacceptable level, it can make sense to reassess the viability of certain options that had, before, sounded unreasonable or impractical. What may have at one time sounded absurd could all of a sudden become one of the only ways to find a solution, or in the case of high- end bodybuilders, find the freedom to do what they do, unencumbered.

The war on drugs is taking greater aim at performance-enhancing drugs, and the sentencing commission has twice now increased penalties for steroid cases. It's a good bet today that if you're caught with even a very small amount of drugs you're going to jail. Today, "being careful" when you buy your gear is a paramount issue. You can't be careful enough, especially now that steroids have become engrained in the news.

From the BALCO scandal and Barry Bonds, to president Bush's famous State of the Union Address, steroid hearings on Capitol Hill, the entire baseball scandal, to the subsequent busts of legitimate drug manufacturers and compounding pharmacies, and the relentless leaking of privileged testimony, Steroids have permeated the national landscape. Today, in America, the establishment wants you to believe that steroids are bay-ud, mmmmm-kay?

Today in America-- more so than any other time in history-- the most serious threat steroids pose is to your freedom. So much so, that the thought of leaving the country could become a very attractive means to bodybuild in the 21st century. Today, in America, 5-foot-10, 275lb, ripped, muscular man looks like he's breaking the law.

That's a very disturbing conclusion. I believe every human being has the right to exercise sovereignty over his/her own body. However, in today's quest for big bodybuilding paydays, exercising this sovereignty includes the use of gear that is, by current "civilized" law in the U.S., illegal. This is, in fact, a form of oppression because in order to take advantage of your inalienable rights as an American to enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by, let's say, aspiring to compete as a professional bodybuilder, it seems you must do so in direct violation of the laws designed, supposedly, to protect your inalienable freedoms.

You further exacerbate the contradiction if you choose to pursue bodybuilding as a legitimate means to earn a living and thus pay the government taxes on money you made while breaking the law. That's money they will, in turn, use to pay the DEA to arrest you, the prosecutor to prosecute you, and the jails to subsequently house you. Various cultures throughout history employed a more direct, yet no less cunning means of exploiting certain factions of their society- those who were different- and subsequently disposing of them in the very machinery they were forced to build.

Today, even simple possession of steroids has become a big issue and according to renowned steroid lawyer, Rick Collins, it's getting worse by the day. I'm afraid that one day the idea that our world is fertile fishing grounds is going to land flat on the DEA's head and leave quite a mark. If they pry open this oyster they will gorge on us without relent. The writing is on the walls, fellas. For some of you, it might make sense to leave Babylon.

Exodus Anyone?

Bob Marley's hit album, "Exodus" is a "chant down" to Babylon. From the Jah People (Rastafari) perspective, Babylon is represented by the historically white-European colonial and imperialist power structure- the establishment- that exploits them. The fatherland refers broadly to Africa, but more specifically, Ethiopia, as the ancestral homeland of all black people. A place they call Zion; a place where they are free.

The obvious political message of "Exodus" is to rise up and set yourself free; to leave Babylon and find the fatherland; to leave oppression and find freedom. The hit single by the same name was inspired after a fellow Jamaican made an attempt on Marley's life, in Jamaica. A disturbing thought for a man who believed that global unity could be achieved through the spirit of love. The song itself speaks for all oppressed people not satisfied with the life they're living.

Inspired by the essence of Marley's hit, I think it's time for bodybuilders to form a line and head for the border; to leave "Babylon" and travel to a place where you can't be charged with bodybuilding in the first degree. Exodus, movement of Muscle people...

The dispersion of bodybuilders from America may seem like a wholly unpatriotic thing, but with the way things seem to be headed, if you have a mind to use performance-enhancing drugs, you are better off leaving Babylon. At least the guys making a living off their bodies should seriously consider it.

A bodybuilder living in Mexico can do whatever he wants, then show up in Vegas, or Columbus, or anywhere else, the night before the show, compete, and go back to Mexico. No problema! The pro living in the States is going to be doing the same thing as the guy in Mexico; however, he'll be committing several very serious felonies. Think of the stress the competitor in Mexico doesn't have.

I wonder if bodybuilding ever entertains the idea that in order for it to continue to prosper as the government ramps up its efforts to go after juice, its competitors will have to continue to break the law. They will be taking an exponentially greater risk if they live in the U.S. or Canada, or anywhere else where steroids and GH are illegal.

Since the current sentiment among members of law enforcement and the government over steroids in worsening, and since bodybuilding is the most obvious visual manifestation of steroid use, it would stand to reason that bodybuilders will more than likely be viewed as easy targets in the drug war. It's inevitable; our community is very small and we stand out. If you're a bodybuilder making money from bodybuilding, I think it's time you put on some Bob Marley and listen to the words.

Viva Mexico!

I can vouch, personally, for Mexico as the perfect spot to call home if you want to be a bodybuilder and not break the law. There are many other countries where you can legally buy bodybuilding supplies that are otherwise illegal in the U.S. The problem with most of them is that they are very far from U.S. borders, making travel long and arduous. In addition, acceptance of Americans is far less abroad than in Mexico.

I found the places worth living in Mexico to be either extremely cosmopolitan, or a luxuriant tropical paradise, and everywhere I went they were happy to see me. I've owned property and have done business in Mexico since 1982 and I've lived there permanently for five years in either Puerto Vallarta or Guadalajara. These are a resort beach town and a bustling metropolis, respectively, and I've got to tell you- Mexico is a true bodybuilder's paradise. Let me give you a glimpse of what you get.

No matter how much money you have, you can find a killer place to live with at least a view of the ocean, if not the mountains and the ocean, and in most cases be close enough to nod off to sleep lulled by the gentle sounds of the waves lapping the shore. That alone is worth the price of admission. Next, for $70 a week (Monday through 1:00 p.m. Saturday) you can get "Esther."

My little Esther was a dark-brown, 21-year-old, mamacita with a 100-watt smile. I hired her on the spot just for that incurable smile of hers; she didn't know how to do anything else at the time. But, after looking at the future ex-Mrs. Romano walking around in paradise looking like she was sucking on a lemon most of the time, Esther's smile was worth 10 times what she was asking.

Eventually, my wife left and Esther kicked it up a notch and took better care of me than any woman in my life after my mother. She cleaned, did the laundry, took care of all the household crap, went shopping and cooked, weighed and portioned all my meals as per my instructions and she'd come find me every three hours, wherever I was in the house, bearing a hot meal. If I was going out, she made sure I had food and water to go.

So, every morning you can wake to the sound of the ocean, the smell of dark roasted coffee and 10 scrambled egg whites with rice and black beans, served with "Esther's" smile. You can eat that meal seated at the head of a massive carved marble and glass table that looks out over the courtyard perched 300 feet up off the beach. The trickling of the fountain and the morning birds' songs drift in through the open shutters and lightly cover the Reggae Esther turns on promptly at 10. If that doesn't put you in a good mood, you can always smoke a little weed. No problema.

Since most villas you'll find will have more bedrooms than you will need, and since my good friend Scott owns a gym equipment company in Guadalajara, you can easily convert one of those extra bedrooms into a nice little home gym for a very reasonable outlay. It's nice to have if you don't want to endure the 15-minute drive to Gold's. At the very least, you can get yourself some cardio pieces and get the roadwork done at home.

It's nice to be able to go upstairs and knock out an hour of cardio before breakfast. Esther will have a fresh towel and a cold bottle of water up on the machine for you, and she'll draw your shower when she hears you stop. You're breakfast will be ready when you are.

Time to Load Up

Okay, you've done your cardio, you're showered, and fed. Now it's time to load up. You look in the medicine cabinet and- what's this?! Empty?! No problema. Just call Freddy at Farmacia Las Olas. Tell him what you want; you can do this from the pool on the roof overlooking the beach using your cell phone, pay for it with your credit card, and about an hour later a little white and pink VW bug will pull up in front of the villa. The driver will hand your package to Esther, who will climb the stairs up to the pool and hand it to you.

Sustanon, Deca, GH, insulin, T-3, Clen, Proviron, Nolvadex, and a box of syringes- all real, all from the pharmacy and all for far less than what you'll pay back in the U.S. You climb out of the pool, grab one of the towels Esther laid out for you, take a sip of iced lemon water, take your gear down to the master bathroom, mix up a cocktail and fix it.

Esther feeds you again and it's off to the gym. The Gold's gym in Puerto Vallarta was state-of-the-art and spared no expense. In addition to two complete lines of Hammer, and one complete line of both Life Fitness and Hammer Select and several tons of rubber coated iron, there was a 50 foot climbing wall, regulation Reyes boxing ring and a forest of heavy bags, a dedicated spinning room, aerobics room, juice bar, spa, sauna, steam, massage, and more hot ass than you can fit in both eyes.

And, it's a half a block off the ocean. There is nothing like sipping your post training protein shake while you watch the sun dip into the pacific and the sky light up in dazzling wisps of electric pastels that gradually darken until there is an unobstructed view of the Milky Way.

When you return home, your villa will look like it's on display. Spotless. All your laundry will be done, as will the dishes, and everything will be put away in its place. Esther will have left enough prepared meals to last you the rest of the evening, and will have turned down your bed and set all the lighting both inside and out. And she'll have lit all the candles before she locked up and went home. Nice touch, ey?

For another 60 bucks a week you can get Carlos to come on duty at 6 p.m. to drive you wherever you want. Parking is a bitch downtown, so it's nice to be dropped off right in front of wherever you want to go. If you want to go shopping, out to dinner, the clubs, whatever, just call Carlos on his cell and he'll bring your car around. And for the rest of the evening, he will be at your service with just a touch of the "send" button. And everywhere Carlos drives you, you will get VIP treatment.

The only time you would need to break this routine is on the weekends, if you have appearances or you're competing. Puerto Vallarta has an international airport less than 30 minutes from anywhere in town. Once on board your plane, you are less than four non-stop hours from LA, San Francisco, Vegas, Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, Newark, Atlanta and Miami.

There is also high speed internet, Digital HD, reasonable long-distance rates to the States if you use a callback service, and you can maintain a U.S. address with Mailboxes Etc. You can either have things sent directly to you at your P.O. Box in Mexico, or you can have mail sent to your U.S. address and Mail Boxes will courier it to your box in Mexico.

You can also maintain your U.S. bank accounts and access them through any one of a gazillion ATM machines littered all over town, or have checks cashed at the local casa de cambio. Just call them up, tell them for how much you will be writing your check, tell them if you want pesos or dollars, or both, and they will deliver your cash to your door. Almost everything is available for delivery.

Look Out, Big Dogs!

I love America, but I love my freedom more. I also enjoyed a standard of living I could not buy in the U.S. for five times the price and I had no one looking up my ass. For my money, Mexico is the undisputed number one spot to raise a big freak. Everything you need is right there.

Bodybuilding in America is becoming exceedingly more dangerous (from a legal standpoint, not health), and I can't help but think that with all that's going on in the news today, soon enough things could really deteriorate. And that would suck, because to those of us who practice it, bodybuilding is a simple case for brotherhood. We're not hurting anyone, least of all ourselves. It's almost beyond comprehension that something as innocuous as steroids, with such a paucity of users, could dominate the political landscape right on up to the White House.

The government is only going to get so much mileage out of arresting the guys behind the scenes, as they did with BALCO. Barry Bonds has been big news but he's never going to be convicted and sent to prison. Once the government regroups and realizes they went after too big a fish, they might look down to bodybuilding and seriously concentrate, get some real good busts, and make the charges stick. They need to nail an athlete for the actual drugs, not lying about them. Since the anti-steroid laws were passed and steroids were listed as schedule 3 on the DEA's list of illegal drugs, the law designed to catch cheating athletes has not netted a single one; not for drug use anyway.

Bodybuilding doesn't promote using steroids any more than NASCAR promotes speeding. However, its constituents are undeniable. You can mistake a pro baseball player for a lot of things, but there are no similes for a pro bodybuilder. If the government wants to rack up some quick arrests to show voting America that the money and time they've thrown at steroids has been of some good, all they have to do is send a DEA agent down to the newsstand to pick up any one of several bodybuilding magazines and take their pick of the next victims in the war on drugs. It would be like shopping on eBay!

Bodybuilding is all about the way we live, brothers. There is no mistaking us. . . some more so than others. . . some much more. Regardless of your size, you can crawl but you can't hide. Whether you even know what a drug looks like, so long as you are noticeably bigger and stronger than the average guy, steroids are likely to be linked to your countenance. The government and the media have done a splendid job of erroneously demonizing steroids. Therefore, anyone with lean, veiny, 18-inch-plus arms today is society's villain. The bigger your guns, the worse the villain. And society loves to put its villains in jail.

Bodybuilders don't belong in jail. They belong in Mexico.

http://www.rxmuscle.com/articles/rom...-problema.html

Originally Posted by OMEGAx

if not a Mexican, you cant really own it in any permanent way

A "fideicomiso" is a trust agreement created for the benefit of a foreign buyer, executed between a Mexican bank and the seller of property in the restricted zone. Foreign buyers cannot own real estate in the restricted zone due to Constitutional restrictions. The bank acts on behalf of the foreign buyer, taking title to real property. The bank, as trustee, buys the property for the foreigner, then has a fiduciary obligation to follow instructions given by the foreigner who is the trust beneficiary. The trust beneficiary retains and enjoys all the rights of ownership while the bank holds title to the property. The foreigner is entitled to use, enjoy, and even sell the property that is held in trust at its market value to any eligible buyer.

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