Thread: NASA unveils giant new rocket design

NASA unveils giant new rocket design

By Seth Borenstein
September 14, 2011

WASHINGTON (AP) - The design for NASA's newest behemoth of a rocket harkens back to the giant workhorse liquid rockets that propelled men to the moon. But this time the destinations will be much farther and the rocket even more powerful.

NASA Administrator Charles Bolden and several members of Congress joined Wednesday in unveiling the Obama administration's much-delayed general plans for its rocket design, called the Space Launch System.

The multibillion-dollar program will carry astronauts in a capsule on top and start test launching from Cape Canaveral, Florida, in six years.

"This is a great day for NASA, I think, for NASA and the nation," Bolden said.

Sen. Bill Nelson, a Florida Democrat, called it "a monster rocket." He said the holdup in presenting the design was so all the details would be in order, before the program was presented and defended by the administration.

"Will it be tough times going forward? Of course* it is," Nelson told journalists. "We are in an era in which we have to do more with less - all across the board - and the competition for the available dollars will be fierce. But what we have here now are the realistic costs that have been scrubbed by an outside, independent third party."

Nelson puts the cost of the program at about $18 billion over the next five years - or $3 billion a year.

Some estimates, however, are closer to $35 billion.

The size, shape and heavier reliance on liquid fuel as opposed to solid rocket boosters is much closer to Apollo than the recently retired space shuttles, which were winged, reusable ships that sat on top of a giant liquid fuel tank, with twin solid rocket boosters providing most of the power. It is also a shift in emphasis from the moon-based, solid-rocket-oriented plans proposed by the George W. Bush administration.

"It's back to the future with a reliable liquid technology," said Stanford University professor Scott Hubbard, a former NASA senior manager who was on the board that investigated the 2003 space shuttle Columbia accident.

NASA figures it will be building and launching about one rocket a year for about 15 years or more in the 2020s and 2030s, according to senior administration officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the announcement was not yet made. The idea is to launch its first unmanned test flight in 2017 with the first crew flying in 2021 and astronauts heading to a nearby asteroid in 2025, the officials said.

From there, NASA hopes to send the rocket and astronauts to Mars - at first just to circle, but then later landing on the Red Planet - in the 2030s.

At first the rockets will be able to carry into space 77 tons to 110 tons (70 to 100 metric tons) of payload, which would include the six-person Orion Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle capsule and more.

Eventually it will be able to carry 143 tons (130 metric tons) into space, maybe even 165 tons (150 metric tons), the officials said.

By comparison, the long-dormant Saturn V booster that sent men to the moon was able to lift 130 tons. (118 metric ton)

The plans dwarf the rumbling liftoff power of the space shuttle, which could haul just 27 tons (25 metric tons).

The biggest current unmanned rocket can carry about 25 tons (23 metric tons).

The size plans elicited an amazed "good grief" from Hubbard, who said it would limit how often they could be built or launched. Unlike the reusable shuttle, these rockets are mostly one-and-done, with new ones built for every launch.

Some of the design elements, the deadline and the requirement for such a rocket were dictated by Congress.

While the recently retired space shuttle's main engines were fueled by liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, it was primarily powered into orbit by solid rockets. Solid rocket boosters were designed to be cheaper, but a booster flaw caused the fatal space shuttle Challenger accident in 1986.

The biggest drawback was that solid rockets can't be stopped once they are lit; liquid ones can.

The new plan is to use a giant rocket powered by liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.

Apollo, Gemini and Mercury flew into space on liquid rockets, and liquids fuel most of the world's unmanned commercial rockets.

Russia's Soyuz rocket is liquid fueled too.

During its initial test flights the rocket will use five solid rocket boosters designed for the shuttle strapped on its outside and will have shuttle main engines powering it on the inside. But soon after that the solid rocket boosters will be replaced with new boosters that should have new technology and may be either liquid or solid, the officials said.

NASA figures it will spend about $3 billion a year on the plan, officials said. The key financial part of this arrangement is that NASA hopes to save money by turning over the launching of astronauts to the International Space Station, which orbits the Earth, to private companies and just rent spaces for astronauts like a giant taxi service.

NASA would then spend the money on leaving Earth's orbit and the Earth-moon system.

Hubbard worries that NASA has a history of spending way more than initially proposed - the space shuttle cost about twice what it was supposed to - and this new rocket system will drain money from other NASA missions.

AP Aerospace Writer Marcia Dunn contributed from Cape Canaveral, Fla.

From The Associated Press

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How about unveiling the much-delayed government design, called the Get Our Country On Track System?

And who is doing the math here?


"Nelson puts the cost of the program at about $18 billion over the next five years - or $3 billion a year."

The last time I checked, 5 X 3 = 15 not 18.

But, hey, I'm not a rocket scientist.

NASA= Never A Straight Answer.