Walkout at U.N. as Ahmadinejad speaks

**Curt James** · 09-22-2011, 02:37 PM

Walkout at U.N. as Ahmadinejad speaks

By the CNN Wire Staff
UPDATED: 02:50 PM EDT 09.22.11

Delegations from the United States and several European nations walked out of the U.N. General Assembly Thursday during Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's speech, in which he repeatedly condemned the United States and said some countries use the Holocaust as an "excuse to pay ransom... to Zionists."

Delegates from France, Germany, and the United Kingdom were among those who walked out. Delegations from Canada and Israel were not present from the beginning.

In his remarks, Ahmadinejad called the September 11, 2001, attacks "mysterious" and said they were a pretext for a U.S.-led war against Afghanistan and Iraq.

He said the United States killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden instead of assigning a fact-finding team to investigate "hidden elements involved in September 11."

He also placed blame on the United States for numerous global problems including the financial crisis, criticizing it for dominating the world's "policy-making establishments," overspending on the military, and "printing trillions of dollars" that triggered inflation, according to an English translation of his speech provided by Iran's U.N. mission.

Ahmadinejad said the U.S. government views Zionism as "sacred," and that "European countries still use the Holocaust after six decades as the excuse to pay (a) fine or ransom to the Zionists."

After assailing the United States, Ahmadinejad said "the main question is the quest for the root cause of such attitudes. The prime reason should be sought in the beliefs and tendencies of the establishment. An assembly of people in contradiction with the inner human instincts and disposition who also have no faith in God and in the path of the divine prophets, replace their lust for power and materialistic ends with heavenly values. To them, only power and wealth prevail, and every attempt must bring into focus these sinister goals."

On the eve of the address, the Iranian president declared his country to be "a new model for life to the world."

He also said that the United States might be willing to "hijack" the Middle East uprisings, according to the Iranian state-run news agency IRNA, but did not further explain his assertion.

Ahmadinejad's appearance at the United Nations in New York comes a day after two U.S. hikers, held in an Iranian prison for more than two years, were released.

Wednesday evening, Ahmadinejad met with a group of U.S. university students, and then gave an interview to Iranian satellite television.

His office provided translated quotes from both.

The Iranian leader said "that the world is in need of change, and Marxism, liberalism, humanism and the West could not solve man's problems," his office said. Ahmadinejad added that "relying on its culture and rich civilization," Iran is "the only nation" that "can offer a new model for life to the world."

He told the students "that the U.S. may be willing to hijack the regional uprisings but a stormy movement is under way," IRNA reported.

Elsewhere in his speech, he said that "the U.N. was set up with the objective of preventing bullying in the world, but this did not happen," IRNA reported.

About 100 undergraduate and graduate students, along with some professors, attended the invitation-only dinner and question-and-answer session in New York, moderated by an Iranian U.N. official. Ahmadinejad did not eat with the guests.

Students who spoke with CNN afterward expressed excitement about the event. At the end, the guests were given hand-painted plates from Iran and books about theology.The mood was jovial and positive, people who were there said. While some questions were asked about nuclear issues, the economy, and Israel, the tone remained positive. Ahmadinejad joked and laughed at times.

Participants included students and staff from Princeton, Fordham, Hofstra, Columbia, New York University, and other schools.

Strict security measures included the collection of phones and cameras before the event.

It was described as a very different experience from Ahmadinejad's controversial 2007 appearance at Columbia University. That year, the school's president, Lee Bollinger, challenged him on human rights, on his statements questioning whether the Holocaust happened, and on his call for Israel to be "wiped off the map" as a Jewish state.

Bollinger told Ahmadinejad he exhibits "all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator."

Large protests against Ahmadinejad's regime took place surrounding that event.

The group United Against Nuclear Iran -- whose founders include former CIA Director Jim Woolsey and the late Ambassador Richard Holbrooke -- slammed Wednesday's event.

The participants "should be ashamed of themselves," said David Ibsen, the group's executive director, describing it as "a propagandistic attempt by the regime to improve its image. Anyone claiming to support liberty, tolerance, and human rights should strongly oppose a dictator who oppresses women, kills homosexuals, violates his citizens' basic rights and religious freedoms, and pursues nuclear weapons."

Ahmadinejad also gave an interview to New York Times op-ed columnist Nicholas Kristof in which he discussed the dispute over Iran's nuclear activities. He said that if the United States gives Iran 20% enriched uranium, "we will cease the domestic enrichment of uranium of up to 20% this very week. We only want the 20% enrichment for our domestic consumption. If they give it to us according to international law, according to IAEA laws, without preconditions, we will cease domestic enrichment."

The IAEA -- International Atomic Energy Agency -- is the U.N. entity that monitors nuclear activity in the world.

Many countries, including the United States, believe Iran is trying to create a nuclear weapons program, but Tehran insists its activities are only to provide energy for the country.

When asked about the uprising in Syria, Ahmadinejad told Kristof that the Syrian government, "just like any other country," should engage in dialogue. "With clashes and confrontations problems will not be solved. They will be multiplied. Differences will be multiplied and magnified. And certainly foreigners must not intervene. Intervention of foreigners will only make the problem that much bigger, and will never solve it."

After the 2009 elections that kept Ahmadinejad in office, Iranian forces launched a violent crackdown on street protests. The 2011 U.S. State Department human rights report on Iran says "scores of protesters and non-protesting bystanders were killed, especially during anti-government rallies. Government sources reported the death toll at 37, opposition groups reported approximately 70 individuals died, and human rights organizations suggested as many as 388."

Ahmadinejad, in his interview with Kristof, painted a very different picture. "In total there were 33 lives lost," he said. "More than two-thirds of those killed belonged to the security forces and innocent bystanders. Less than one-third were those who clashed with the security/police forces. So they were a very, very small minority."

From CNN.com

**Dark Geared God** · 09-22-2011, 02:48 PM

**KelJu** · 09-22-2011, 02:49 PM

Dude is a douchebag, and Iran is a turd, but I completely understand why Iran hates us.

**IronAddict** · 09-22-2011, 02:53 PM

Oh, yeah. Just like these dudes call Barack, Barry. I'll call that motha phuqa, Andy.

Andy, like our prez. is just a figurehead!

**oufinny** · 09-22-2011, 02:58 PM

I am not for taking out heads of state but this guy needs to be just a little too close to a car bomb, hopefully from one of his own jihadist douche bags.

**KelJu** · 09-22-2011, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by oufinny

I am not for taking out heads of state but this guy needs to be just a little too close to a car bomb, hopefully from one of his own jihadist douche bags.

Well we have been plenty successful in the past at taking out Iranian presidents.

**LAM** · 09-22-2011, 03:15 PM

apparently they didn't like hearing the truth, everything Ahmadinejad stated is correct. it's why when traveling outside of the states the US is commonly called the "empire".

the central bank in the US along with these historically low interest rates, quantitative easing (expansion of the money supply aka. inflation) are fucking up the global economy all for the speculative class, the bond holders, commodity traders, etc. what the fuck is the little guy at the bottom supposed to do with an savings rate of APY of 1-0.40% on accounts. you can't make any profits on cash because of inflation it yields zero growth.

**KelJu** · 09-22-2011, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

apparently they didn't like hearing the truth, everything Ahmadinejad stated is correct. it's why when traveling outside of the states the US is commonly called the "empire".

the central bank in the US along with these historically low interest rates, quantitative easing (expansion of the money supply aka. inflation) are fucking up the global economy all for the speculative class, the bond holders, commodity traders, etc. what the fuck is the little guy at the bottom supposed to do with an savings rate of APY of 1-0.40% on accounts.

They can act holier than thou and walk out, but you are right, that everything he said was correct.
However, Ahmadinejad is an evil fuck dictator and in all likelihood a complete psychopath. I guess the dickheads that walked out didn't like being called dickheads be another dickhead who wants in their special little group of dickheads.

**maniclion** · 09-22-2011, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Oh, yeah. Just like these dudes call Barack, Barry. I'll call that motha phuqa, Andy.

Andy, like our prez. is just a figurehead!

I call him Mack, like a fuggin Nyuh Yoork cabbie would .... "Eh, Mack yoos driving caw numba fife tuday!"

Cause that's about what he'd be good for over here...

**lnvanry** · 09-26-2011, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

apparently they didn't like hearing the truth, everything Ahmadinejad stated is correct. it's why when traveling outside of the states the US is commonly called the "empire".

the central bank in the US along with these historically low interest rates, quantitative easing (expansion of the money supply aka. inflation) are fucking up the global economy all for the speculative class, the bond holders, commodity traders, etc. what the fuck is the little guy at the bottom supposed to do with an savings rate of APY of 1-0.40% on accounts. you can't make any profits on cash because of inflation it yields zero growth.

really?

"An assembly of people in contradiction with the inner human instincts and disposition who also have no faith in God and in the path of the divine prophets,..."

I didn't take you for a religious fundamental

**LAM** · 09-26-2011, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by lnvanry

really?

"An assembly of people in contradiction with the inner human instincts and disposition who also have no faith in God and in the path of the divine prophets,..."

I didn't take you for a religious fundamental

my brain skips over such comments, I have no time for religion.

**ExLe** · 09-26-2011, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

apparently they didn't like hearing the truth, everything Ahmadinejad stated is correct. it's why when traveling outside of the states the US is commonly called the "empire".

the central bank in the US along with these historically low interest rates, quantitative easing (expansion of the money supply aka. inflation) are fucking up the global economy all for the speculative class, the bond holders, commodity traders, etc. what the fuck is the little guy at the bottom supposed to do with an savings rate of APY of 1-0.40% on accounts. you can't make any profits on cash because of inflation it yields zero growth.

LAM Amadini"jacket" claims the Holocaust was a hoax..

Whats your opinion on this

**LAM** · 09-26-2011, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by ExLe

LAM Amadini"jacket" claims the Holocaust was a hoax..

Whats your opinion on this

and so does Gears...

honestly I don't know how any rationale thinking person could hold such thoughts but then again many people believe lots of things not based on facts. so the occurrence that some disbelieve factual accounts of history should be of no surprise.

there is something about belief systems that cause some people to not be able to differentiate between fact and fiction. the human brain is obviously quite flawed in numerous ways.

**ExLe** · 09-26-2011, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

and so does Gears...

honestly I don't know how any rationale thinking person could hold such thoughts but then again many people believe lots of things not based on facts. so the occurrence that some disbelieve factual accounts of history should be of no surprise.

Do you also think he is full of it when he says 9-11 was an inside job planned by the U.S Gov. and Jews?

**LAM** · 09-26-2011, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by ExLe

Do you also think he is full of it when he says 9-11 was an inside job planned by the U.S Gov. and Jews?

I forgot the name of the book but I read it long ago, it was basically an analysis of the US done by some leading psychiatrists. the end result/analysis was that the US (government) was psychopathic.

I know that fundamentalists are the most dangerous people on the planet because they actually believe the shit that comes out of their own mouths.

regarding Jews having anything to do with 9-11 I don't know, I really don't pay attention to religion as it's all bullshit to me. I do however believe that certain leaders in the US government would take part in such a plan and conspiracy as history has shown us time and time again what many of these people are capable of doing. I am referring to leaders of various nations and country's throughout history.

there are far too many questions not answered, to many coincidences and things that just don't add up. the disgruntled FBI agent John O'Neil who quits after decades and one of the main counter-terrorism analysts in the middle east being "found" a job at the WTC and only 3 weeks before 9-11 by a CIA agent...you can't make this kind of stuff up.

**ExLe** · 09-26-2011, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

I forgot the name of the book but I read it long ago, it was basically an analysis of the US done by some leading psychiatrists. the end result/analysis was that the US (government) was psychopathic.

I know that fundamentalists are the most dangerous people on the planet because they actually believe the shit that comes out of their own mouths.

regarding Jews having anything to do with 9-11 I don't know, I really don't pay attention to religion as it's all bullshit to me. I do however believe that certain leaders in the US government would take part in such a plan and conspiracy as history has shown us time and time again what many of these people are capable of doing. I am referring to leaders of various nations and country's throughout history.

there are far too many questions not answered, to many coincidences and things that just don't add up. FBI agent John O'Neil who quits after decades and one of the main counter-terrorism analysts in the middle east being "found" a job at the WTC and only 3 weeks before 9-11 by a CIA agent...you can't make this kind of stuff up.

Interesting..

I am curious to hear gears theory on the Holocaust..

**myCATpowerlifts** · 09-27-2011, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by ExLe

Interesting..

I am curious to hear gears theory on the Holocaust..

History is written by the winners.

I have read so many articles, claiming that just as many christians and germans were thrown into the camps and that more germans died by the hand of the Nazi's than the jews.

But, that's just what I've read.

**DOMS** · 09-27-2011, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

History is written by the winners.

I have read so many articles, claiming that just as many christians and germans were thrown into the camps and that more germans died by the hand of the Nazi's than the jews.

But, that's just what I've read.

Just curious... You do realize that a lot of the German's that were killed by the Nazi's were Jews, right?

BTW, the shit the Japanese did to the Chinese made the Germans look like amateurs.

**myCATpowerlifts** · 09-27-2011, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by DOMS

Just curious... You do realize that a lot of the German's that were killed by the Nazi's were Jews, right?

BTW, the shit the Japanese did to the Chinese made the Germans look like amateurs.

Yes of course. Sorry, should have clarified, by "germans" I meant, germans of non-jewish descent.

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