Officials: 'Zeta Killers' kill 32 more in Mexico

**Curt James** · 10-07-2011, 05:27 PM

Oct 7, 6:28 PM EDT

Officials: 'Zeta Killers' kill 32 more in Mexico

By OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ
Associated Press

MEXICO CITY (AP) -- A relatively new drug gang is responsible for killing at least 67 people whose bodies were found over the course of a couple of weeks in the Gulf coast state of Veracruz, Mexican authorities said Friday.

Marines arrested eight members of the Jalisco New Generation drug gang Thursday, navy spokesman Jose Luis Vergara said at a news conference. The suspects later led authorities to 32 bodies left in three houses in Veracruz, a port city that carries the state's name.

Vergara said the gang is also responsible for dumping 35 bound, tortured bodies on a busy boulevard in a suburb of Veracruz on Sept. 20.

The navy appeared eager to dampen speculation that the New Generation gang, believed to be allied with Mexico's Sinaloa drug cartel, is some sort of paramilitary group aimed at eliminating the hyper-violent Zetas cartel.

New Generation members have dubbed themselves "Mata Zetas," or "Zetas Killers," and many of their victims appear to be from that cartel.

Authorities would have ample reason to want to eliminate the Zetas, who have been blamed for the kidnap-murders of three marines so far this year in Veracruz.

Vergara insisted no paramilitaries were involved.

"We stress that this is just another organized crime gang that opposes the Zetas, with whom they are fighting for control of illicit income and criminal activities in Veracruz," he said.

Marines also arrested 12 alleged Zetas on Thursday, including Aquiles Amaranto Cruz Hurtano, allegedly the group's new operations leader in Veracruz, Vergara said.

He said the suspects "presumably were assigned to kill relatives of their enemies" and carry out other criminal activities.

All 20 of the detainees were paraded before the news media Friday before being turned over to federal prosecutors pending charges. While some appeared hardened and weathered, a few appeared to be in their teens.

Also Friday, Veracruz state Attorney General Reynaldo Escobar Perez resigned, citing "personal reasons," state government spokeswoman Gina Dominguez said.

Escobar was harshly criticized after saying that most of the 35 dead dumped on a main thoroughfare had criminal records hours after they were found. He also pursued terrorism and sabotage charges against a man and a woman who retweeted false reports about gunmen attacking schools. Prosecutors dropped the charges after a nationwide outcry.

Sinaloa and the Zetas have emerged as Mexico's dominant drug cartels and appear locked in a nationwide battle for territory. The New Generation gang emerged in the western state of Jalisco in 2010, following the death of Sinaloa capo Ignacio "Nacho" Coronel that same year.

In recent months, the "Mata Zetas" have released videos in which armed, masked men claim to be fighting to free Veracruz from the Zetas' reign of killings, kidnappings and extortion - even though the Sinaloa cartel is implicated in many of the same activities.

Despite the propaganda videos - which had led some local news media to begin calling the gang "paramilitaries" - Vergara stressed that "no criminal propaganda will force the government to step back from its efforts against criminals."

The arrests capped a flurry of rumors on social networks Thursday that multiple bodies had been found in Veracruz. The state government first said it had no information on the killings, then later confirmed them.

The navy said that when marines reached the first of the three safe house, where 20 bodies were found, state police officers were already there. Marines found 11 bodies at the second house and one at a third.

From News from The Associated Press

**Curt James** · 10-08-2011, 03:11 PM

**LAM** · 10-08-2011, 03:22 PM

crime pays substantially more than working for $3-$5 a day USD in Mexico...the neo-liberal experiment in Mexico seems to be working out great for the masters of industry and crappy for everyone else...what other country does this sound like?

**Curt James** · 10-08-2011, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

crime pays substantially more than working for $3-$5 a day USD in Mexico...the neo-liberal experiment in Mexico seems to be working out great for the masters of industry and crappy for everyone else...what other country does this sound like?

Couldn't guess, but I bet their GDP is crrrraaaaap!

**LAM** · 10-08-2011, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Curt James

Couldn't guess, but I bet their GDP is crrrraaaaap!

the USA...on the outside our economy is not much different than theirs which should be no surprise as the US helped Mexico design their economy many decades ago.

their low wage paying service sector can not support their population either as the US is now finding out. real GDP growth in the US has now slowed to a crawl since the deficit hawks on the right have managed to once again fuck up the recession recovery by demanding fiscal contraction at the worst possible time, after a global banking collapse....this is the recipe that caused the great depression in the 30's

**murf23** · 10-08-2011, 09:17 PM

Politics aside this is some scary shit

**Curt James** · 10-08-2011, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

the USA...on the outside our economy is not much different than theirs which should be no surprise as the US helped Mexico design their economy many decades ago.

their low wage paying service sector can not support their population either as the US is now finding out. real GDP growth in the US has now slowed to a crawl since the deficit hawks on the right have managed to once again fuck up the recession recovery by demanding fiscal contraction at the worst possible time, after a global banking collapse....this is the recipe that caused the great depression in the 30's

Which country, by your estimation, has the best financial model?

And what does that country's average citizen earn per year for their salary?

**Curt James** · 10-08-2011, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

crime pays substantially more than working for $3-$5 a day USD in Mexico...the neo-liberal experiment in Mexico seems to be working out great for the masters of industry and crappy for everyone else...what other country does this sound like?

Sat beside a man at a local bar. He commented that he had just gotten out of jail for selling drugs. Drunk and rather angry, he swore that he didn't give a **** about the police and was going to start selling drugs again as there's just so much money to be made.

Who can argue with $5,000 per day versus $5 a day?

**Dark Geared God** · 10-09-2011, 03:06 PM

**LAM** · 10-09-2011, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Curt James

Which country, by your estimation, has the best financial model?

And what does that country's average citizen earn per year for their salary?

that's a tough one as there are many country's out there with governments much different than others. the US has a representative democracy (that is a stretch at this point), the UK has a constitutional monarchy, Australia has a federal constitutional monarchy, Canada has a constitutional monarchy (the PM of Canada reports directly to the Queen of England), etc. but most country's follow the same basic model as the US with the exception of lobbying. it is not allowed in most countries and the ones that do allow it it is carefully regulated unlike the US.

the document below lists the countries of the world according to income per capita. the US ranks #18 but we also have the most inequality in terms of wages out of all the high industrialized wealthy country's.

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/D...rces/GNIPC.pdf

as compared to all other countries in the OECD the US collects the least amount of money in corporate taxes as a percentage of GDP, spends the least amount on social protections as a percentage of GDP and has the lowest rate of unionization in the OECD. the US also has the highest percentage of low paid workers out of all highly industrialized wealthy nations at 25% of the labor force, this is because the US has the lowest rate of unionization out of all OECD countries at only 13% of the labor force, many countries are as high as 50-60%. we have the 3rd highest rate of childhood poverty with Mexico and Turkey taking the 1 & 2 spots.

**LAM** · 10-09-2011, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Curt James

Sat beside a man at a local bar. He commented that he had just gotten out of jail for selling drugs. Drunk and rather angry, he swore that he didn't give a **** about the police and was going to start selling drugs again as there's just so much money to be made.

Who can argue with $5,000 per day versus $5 a day?

salaries for LE in Mexico depending on the city, etc. ranges from about $350 month to $900. very easy to understand why corruption is so high, either you join them or they kill you...it's kind of a no-brainer

**irish_2003** · 10-09-2011, 07:01 PM

less illegals to come here then!!! they're helping us by reducing the population

**LAM** · 10-09-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by irish_2003

less illegals to come here then!!! they're helping us by reducing the population

you need to read the book by George Friedman - The Next 100 Years. Mexicans will be the labor force of the US in the future as the pseudo-indigenous population of American is shrinking.

**Dark Geared God** · 10-09-2011, 07:45 PM

**Big Pimpin** · 10-10-2011, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by LAM

the USA...on the outside our economy is not much different than theirs which should be no surprise as the US helped Mexico design their economy many decades ago.

their low wage paying service sector can not support their population either as the US is now finding out. real GDP growth in the US has now slowed to a crawl since the deficit hawks on the right have managed to once again fuck up the recession recovery by demanding fiscal contraction at the worst possible time, after a global banking collapse....this is the recipe that caused the great depression in the 30's

At some point many millions are going to have to realize their place in this country isn't in a fancy home on a full acre with flat panel TV's, xBoxes, 4 smartphones, 2 iPads and stainless appliances. Capitalism has winners and losers and the sooner some folks realize this the better. The bright side for those on the lower end of the wage scale is housing prices are plummeting and will continue to fall another 25-50%.

**Dark Geared God** · 10-10-2011, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Big Pimpin

At some point many millions are going to have to realize their place in this country isn't in a fancy home on a full acre with flat panel TV's, xBoxes, 4 smartphones, 2 iPads and stainless appliances. Capitalism has winners and losers and the sooner some folks realize this the better. The bright side for those on the lower end of the wage scale is housing prices are plummeting and will continue to fall another 25-50%.

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