Thread: Obama Campaigning not leading?

When did Obama ever lead this country? I do recall him 'leading' the passing of the trillion dollar Porkulus and the mutli-trillion dollar abortion called Obamacare both which were pork bills to pay off special interests.

Like this?

Do I believe Obama is campaigning? Yes. Do I believe every other politician would be doing the same? Yes.

Originally Posted by Big Pimpin

When did Obama ever lead this country? I do recall him 'leading' the passing of the trillion dollar Porkulus and the mutli-trillion dollar abortion called Obamacare both which were pork bills to pay off special interests.

Don't forget his great leadership when he shoved his shitty healthcare plan down the throats of the majority of Americans that didn't want it.

That's some stellar fucking leadership, right there.

Originally Posted by Big Pimpin

When did Obama ever lead this country? I do recall him 'leading' the passing of the trillion dollar Porkulus and the mutli-trillion dollar abortion called Obamacare both which were pork bills to pay off special interests.

you probably shouldn't learn about economics from Fox News because you are about 180degrees out of phase in terms of your knowledge.

"Obamacare" as the tards like to call it reduces the deficit it does not increase it.

Preliminary Cost Estimate for Pending Health Care Legislation
Director's Blog » Blog Archive » Preliminary Cost Estimate for Pending Health Care Legislation

H.R. 4872, Reconciliation Act of 2010
Congressional Budget Office - H.R. 4872, Reconciliation Act of 2010


and the stimulus package of 2009 kept the economy moving forward as workers recovered from the banking collapse and the recession that followed. the reason why the economy is slowing now is because all the stimulus monies have been spent, the original amount was not big enough as it only amounted to a 2% annual stimulus on the GDP of the US at 14T...chicken scratch

Breakdown of Funding

WORKING PAPER #564
PRINCETON UNIVERSITY
INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS SECTION
May 2011
Version: May 4, 2011

Job Loss in the Great Recession:
Historial Perspective from the Displaced Workers Survey, 1984-20101
Henry S. Farber
Princeton University, NBER, IZA

http://www.irs.princeton.edu/pubs/pdfs/564.pdf

Originally Posted by DOMS

Don't forget his great leadership when he shoved his shitty healthcare plan down the throats of the majority of Americans that didn't want it.

That's some stellar fucking leadership, right there.

actually they did want it, he campaigned on health-care reform...just because Fox said they didn't doesn't make it true...the people got uneasy with the legislation after Palin and the rest of the liars got on the air talking about "death-panels", etc.

and historically the GOP uses reconciliation about 70% more often than democrats do

Originally Posted by LAM

you probably shouldn't learn about economics from Fox News because you are about 180degrees out of phase in terms of your knowledge.

"Obamacare" as the tards like to call it reduces the deficit it does not increase it.

Preliminary Cost Estimate for Pending Health Care Legislation
Director's Blog » Blog Archive » Preliminary Cost Estimate for Pending Health Care Legislation

H.R. 4872, Reconciliation Act of 2010
Congressional Budget Office - H.R. 4872, Reconciliation Act of 2010


and the stimulus package of 2009 kept the economy moving forward as workers recovered from the banking collapse and the recession that followed. the reason why the economy is slowing now is because all the stimulus monies have been spent, the original amount was not big enough as it only amounted to a 2% annual stimulus on the GDP of the US at 14T...chicken scratch

Breakdown of Funding

WORKING PAPER #564
PRINCETON UNIVERSITY
INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS SECTION
May 2011
Version: May 4, 2011

Job Loss in the Great Recession:
Historial Perspective from the Displaced Workers Survey, 1984-20101
Henry S. Farber
Princeton University, NBER, IZA

http://www.irs.princeton.edu/pubs/pdfs/564.pdf

You believe Obamacare is going to reduce the deficit? You're fucking with me right? Surely you are smarter than that.

Originally Posted by Big Pimpin

You believe Obamacare is going to reduce the deficit? You're fucking with me right? Surely you are smarter than that.

did you even read the bill? do you know how the legislation reduces FFS costs?

Originally Posted by LAM

actually they did want it, he campaigned on health-care reform...just because Fox said they didn't doesn't make it true...the people got uneasy with the legislation after Palin and the rest of the liars got on the air talking about "death-panels", etc.

and historically the GOP uses reconciliation about 70% more often than democrats do

I don't watch or read Fox, but nice try attempting to marginalize my point by tying me to them.

Every source showed that the majority of Americans didn't want it. True, some groups did, mostly minorities, but the majority didn't want it.

Even the Washington Post, that bastion of Liberal douchbaggery, run pieces about how it sucks.

Originally Posted by DOMS

I don't watch or read Fox, but nice try attempting to marginalize my point by tying me to them.

Every source showed that the majority of Americans didn't want it. True, some groups did, mostly minorities, but the majority didn't want it.

Even the Washington Post, that bastion of Liberal douchbaggery, run pieces about how it sucks.

What has the GOP done for healthcare in the past 50 years? absolutely nothing, Bush passed his expensive Medicare Part D legislation of which like 30% was increased funding for administrative costs (aka payroll). The legislation is surely not the best but much better than the GOP attempt which is non-existent, all their efforts are spent coddling big businesses and the already wealthy, those that need no help.

Originally Posted by LAM

What has the GOP done for healthcare in the past 50 years? absolutely nothing, Bush passed his expensive Medicare Part D legislation of which like 30% was increased funding for administrative costs (aka payroll). The legislation is surely not the best but much better than the GOP attempt which is non-existent, all their efforts are spent coddling big businesses and the already wealthy, those that need no help.

None of which has any bearing on Obama being a shitty leader.

Healthcare is not a right unless you live in a socialist country so fuck calling it Obamacare its fucking socialized medicine where part of my income pays for lazy motherfuckers to get some fucking heathcare, it's bullshit!

Hell yes he's campaigning, it's the only thing this idiot is qualified to do. He's never led anything!

Larry Hoover was a community organizer in Chicago too......just sayin'......he and BO are very similar

for those that don't know Larry Hoover was the founder of the Gangster Disciples street gang

Originally Posted by LAM

What has the GOP done for healthcare in the past 50 years? absolutely nothing, Bush passed his expensive Medicare Part D legislation of which like 30% was increased funding for administrative costs (aka payroll). The legislation is surely not the best but much better than the GOP attempt which is non-existent, all their efforts are spent coddling big businesses and the already wealthy, those that need no help.

LAM a question regarding Obama care...

Is the mandate a tax or a fee on the American people?

Originally Posted by ExLe

LAM a question regarding Obama care...

Is the mandate a tax or a fee on the American people?

Health Reform Hits Main Street
Health Reform Hits Main Street - Kaiser Health Reform

Summary of the New Health Reform Law
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8061.pdf

Just like most of the Democratic Senators...

I am not going to bother reading all that...

So is the mandate a tax or a fee or are you not sure?...

Sick of hearing about this guy..

Originally Posted by DOMS

None of which has any bearing on Obama being a shitty leader.

How can you call him a "shitty leader" without first comparing him to past leaders?

Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

How can you call him a "shitty leader" without first comparing him to past leaders?

He's Negro Bush. What more do you want?

Originally Posted by DOMS

He's Negro Bush. What more do you want?

Was just pointing out the fallacy.

Originally Posted by LAM

What has the GOP done for healthcare in the past 50 years? absolutely nothing, Bush passed his expensive Medicare Part D legislation of which like 30% was increased funding for administrative costs (aka payroll). The legislation is surely not the best but much better than the GOP attempt which is non-existent, all their efforts are spent coddling big businesses and the already wealthy, those that need no help.

Who gives a fuck what the GOP has done? Obama promised to reach across the aisle to get shit done and no longer pander to special interests and low and behold he got elected. He has been nothing but a god damn liar ever since who is totally out of tune with the working class. Instead of doing something in 2009 and 2010 to stimulate the economy and make small business feel like they could grow and hire again, he first fucks around and declares a nearly trillion dollar emergency to pay back his campaign supporters, then he wastes an entire fucking year trying to get his own House and and Senate Democrats to pass Obamacare when an overwhelming majority of the electorate is screaming no to Obamacare.

He's a waste of fucking space who history will show had the most corrupt White House in modern day history. Obama is failure when this country needed a real leader but I will give him credit where credit is do...he can read the shit out of a teleprompter.

Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

Was just pointing out the fallacy.

Fallacy? Hitler doesn't justify Stalin.

i have reason to believe that all liberals played little league sports where they didn't keep score.....then they became adults and now don't know how to play to win....they just whine and blame the other team for their own inabilities to fix things.......i propose a bill to remove the tickets from Chuck E Cheese so libtards can not worry about their feelings or self esteem (just kidding....fuck 'em all....fend for your f'n selves for once!!!)

Ron Paul for Pres.

Originally Posted by Big Pimpin

Who gives a fuck what the GOP has done? Obama promised to reach across the aisle to get shit done and no longer pander to special interests and low and behold he got elected. He has been nothing but a god damn liar ever since who is totally out of tune with the working class. Instead of doing something in 2009 and 2010 to stimulate the economy and make small business feel like they could grow and hire again, he first fucks around and declares a nearly trillion dollar emergency to pay back his campaign supporters, then he wastes an entire fucking year trying to get his own House and and Senate Democrats to pass Obamacare when an overwhelming majority of the electorate is screaming no to Obamacare.

He's a waste of fucking space who history will show had the most corrupt White House in modern day history. Obama is failure when this country needed a real leader but I will give him credit where credit is do...he can read the shit out of a teleprompter.

Reach across the aisle? Outside of Obamacare his entire platform has been to capitulate to the right. Bush Tax Cut extension, continuance of wars, caving to Boehner in the debt ceiling fight, keeping guantanamo open, continuing the war on drugs, continuance of the wall street bailouts (That's right, Paulson, a Republican, started that shit) . I don't think McCain could have done a better job of moving the right's agenda forward.

Originally Posted by irish_2003

i have reason to believe that all liberals played little league sports where they didn't keep score.....then they became adults and now don't know how to play to win....they just whine and blame the other team for their own inabilities to fix things.......i propose a bill to remove the tickets from Chuck E Cheese so libtards can not worry about their feelings or self esteem (just kidding....fuck 'em all....fend for your f'n selves for once!!!)

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Reach across the aisle? Outside of Obamacare his entire platform has been to capitulate to the right. Bush Tax Cut extension, continuance of wars, caving to Boehner in the debt ceiling fight, keeping guantanamo open, continuing the war on drugs, continuance of the wall street bailouts (That's right, Paulson, a Republican, started that shit) . I don't think McCain could have done a better job of moving the right's agenda forward.

He's only caved to Boner recently once he became House Majority Leader and as far as Obama carrying the GOP's/Bush's water, that was his doing not as result of reaching across the aisle and working with the Republicans during 2009 and 2010.

One thing is for sure, Obama campaigned on helping the little guy but once in office, he's been all about big business fucking the little guy.