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10-13-2011, 03:12 AM #1Registered Abuser
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Why can't more people see this?
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10-13-2011, 04:03 AM #3Is Doin It 4 Da Shorteez
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every single republican in the House voted against the job bill yesterday (American Jobs Act of 2011).
U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote
"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president. That’s my single most important political goal along with every active Republican in the country."
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
* the tax cuts enacted by GWB have done exactly what they were designed to do, cause deficits so large it would be near impossible to pay them down with out shrinking the size of government. putting many people back to work would increase revenue to the government and they do not want that to happen. the GOP has specifically attacked "government" workers at the state level as they have high incomes, they want to force those workers into the low wage service sector.
* But trade deals with Korea, Panama (new tax haven) & Columbia were approved yesterday . S. 681: Stop Tax Haven Abuse Act couldn't make it out of committee in 2007 thanks to Orin Hatch (R-Utah) and ranking member of the senate finance committee.
With control of the House the GOP is doing everything it can to reduce revenue to the fed gov..
Senators Introduce Bill to Stop Offshore Tax Havens
http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/...s-59176-1.html
the government seems to function just fine when profits for big business are on the lineLast edited by LAM; 10-13-2011 at 04:39 AM.
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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10-13-2011, 07:50 AM #4IDIOT SAVANT
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Originally Posted by LAM
And two democrats. Proves they're not all brain dead Harry Reid lackies.
Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???
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Originally Posted by BillHicksFan
So much truth and passion in his delivery, it gives Goosebumps.
Last edited by HialeahChico305; 10-13-2011 at 08:58 AM.
Originally Posted by KelJu
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10-13-2011, 08:26 AM #6Senior Member ELITE MEMBER
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Jagbender's battle of the bulge
The problems we face today are because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living
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10-13-2011, 08:28 AM #7Registered User
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He didn't really say anything thing. He just said 1% of the population owns 40% of the wealth then just cussed a lot.
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10-13-2011, 08:32 AM #8Senior Member ELITE MEMBER
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Logic!
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Originally Posted by troubador
And the fact that you believe that this should be accepted as normal only proves my point.
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10-13-2011, 09:31 AM #10Is Doin It 4 Da Shorteez
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it proves that none of them have any working knowledge of economics and/or they are intentionally tanking the economy. every single noble laureate or non-conservative economist in or out of the US has stated that the US needs more stimulus now and fast or the economic future outlook will go from bad to horrible. Originally Posted by ALBOB
And two democrats. Proves they're not all brain dead Harry Reid lackies.I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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10-13-2011, 10:00 AM #11YOU ME WE ELITE MEMBER
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I'm just glad the other 98% have finally caught up to me, cause I've been pissed off about this shit for a long long time now!!!
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You didn't make any point but as someone who operates on moral principle rather than consequence I don't see how there could be an acceptable range of wealth that the top 1% should control. Originally Posted by BillHicksFan
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Yeah the dems called it so well the first time, we should listen to them again. Originally Posted by LAM
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10-13-2011, 12:26 PM #14Is Doin It 4 Da Shorteez
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the original stimulus was not big enough as was told to the politicians in DC by all the leading nobel prize winning economists in the country ..back in 2009, you can't change history... Originally Posted by troubador
Yeah the dems called it so well the first time, we should listen to them again.
Nobel Economist Joseph Stiglitz on Obama’s Stimulus Plan, Debt, Climate Change, and "Freefall: America, Free Markets, and the Sinking of the World Economy"
Nobel Economist Joseph Stiglitz on Obama's Stimulus Plan, Debt, Climate Change, and "Freefall: America, Free Markets, and the Sinking of the World Economy"I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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The hell??? Originally Posted by troubador
Yeah the dems called it so well the first time, we should listen to them again.
That's a completely meaningless graph. Are you that dumb?
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10-13-2011, 01:07 PM #16Is Doin It 4 Da Shorteez
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troubador do realize that you posted a graph showing that the stimulus did have a positive effect on employment or not?
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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10-13-2011, 01:12 PM #17Registered Abuser
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Originally Posted by LAM
He's such a wiener.
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Maroon dots are ACTUAL UN employmant data points. LAM you are saying that HIGHER Un employment is better?
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Originally Posted by LAM
The blue was the projected unemployment numbers if the Recovery Act was passed and if it wasn't. The Recovery Act passed and unemployment actually was even worse than their projection without the Act. The graph shows no positive effect after the Act was passed since unemployment continued to climb. Even now it is still above the 'without recovery plan' projection. I guess you didn't realize the blue was their projection but obviously 2012-2014 hasn't occurred yet.Maroon dots are actual unemployment data
Everything in blue was created by Obama's economic team
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Ah...their "projection".... Originally Posted by troubador
The blue was the projected unemployment numbers if the Recovery Act was passed and if it wasn't. The Recovery Act passed and unemployment actually was even worse than their projection without the Act. The graph shows no positive effect after the Act was passed since unemployment continued to climb. Even now it is still above the 'without recovery plan' projection. I guess you didn't realize the blue was their projection but obviously 2012-2014 hasn't occurred yet.
In other words, total fabrication/guesswork.
If that's what you base your opinion off of....Sad.
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From the graph... Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts
So it was Obama's economic team who made the projection and was wrong.Everything in blue was created by Obama's economic team
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Basically what the Chart is saying. What was projected "with" and "without" a recovery plan is far better that then actual numbers.(maroon dots).
That just goes to show you that all the "Smart" "Greedy" "Eliteist" NON TAX paying. Covered my better health insurance than 98% "Joe Fucking Public" fuckers in D.C. don't have a CLUE what the econony will do or how to fix it. The only certian data is WHAT happened. NON Partisan view THEY are ALL fucking croocked as my dick!Jagbender's battle of the bulge
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Oh yeah. When I get into fucking debt. I spent my way out too!
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10-13-2011, 04:20 PM #24Is Doin It 4 Da Shorteez
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exactly...it was "projected" but that is not the way it turned out in reality. not sure if you know this but 2007 was the first global banking collapse in world history so this is not just another normal economic "recession" cycle. Toxic assets from the US effected the entire world banking system. then you also have to factor in the economic situation before the banking collapse. Originally Posted by troubador
The blue was the projected unemployment numbers if the Recovery Act was passed and if it wasn't. The Recovery Act passed and unemployment actually was even worse than their projection without the Act. The graph shows no positive effect after the Act was passed since unemployment continued to climb. Even now it is still above the 'without recovery plan' projection. I guess you didn't realize the blue was their projection but obviously 2012-2014 hasn't occurred yet.
the economic expansion in the years of 2000-2007 was the weakest in about 50 years were the poverty rate increased and wages remained flat for most in the middle income quintiles and decreased for low wage earners and employment was only increasing at 0.01% annually. wage increases for many that even got them were consumed by rising healthcare and energy costs. so basically it was a lost decade with no economic improvement for almost 50% of the US labor force.
* all of these events have a cumulative effect just as economic policy from one administration from another carries over UNLESS it is changed. there was real income growth in the 90's from Internet, tech boom, etc. when that over-investment bubble busted GWB walked into a small recession in 2001 which we never recovered from. so the fact that this recession is also jobless is logically as it is showing a pattern, and a very bad one.
* for those that actually want to learn something this paper shows how jobs have been effected during each recession and recovery since 1984 you can jump right to page 5 it has text and graphs for the various levels of education.
WORKING PAPER #564
PRINCETON UNIVERSITY
INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS SECTION
May 2011
Version: May 4, 2011
Job Loss in the Great Recession:
Historical Perspective from the Displaced Workers Survey, 1984-20101
Henry S. Farber
Princeton University, NBER, IZA
http://www.irs.princeton.edu/pubs/pdfs/564.pdfI train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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are you a country? at what age does a country retire? Originally Posted by jagbender
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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i cant watch so idk who this is about so let me just say ron pual please and thank you
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