Thread: Occupy Wall Streeters get owned

I thoroughly enjoyed that. The point he is making is valid in that many have had things handed to them day in and day out, never worked hard for anything and feel entitled that they should instantly win. Guess what, it rarely works that way and right now shit is so bad that it will be even harder than it was for me, the other guy and the guy next to him. Nothing wrong with protesting just something wrong with the lack of a clear message coming from these groups.

Ahahaha, that guy is a moron. I don't think the occupy people would have any problem living off the land, they're mostly hippies. Now, put the 1% in a log cabin with no food or resources and they'd be dead in 15 minutes. It's easy to say you can do anything when your daddy is rich, everything has been handed to you and you've never had to face adversity in your life.

I don't care about Occupy Wall Street in itself.

I care about, if the movement has message, and will it have legs or translate to something else?

Occupy is very similar to the Tea Party.

^^^ I would beg to differ as the Tea Party is accountable for dozens of congressional wins, while I find it hard to believe a single DNC candidate would strongly associate himself with the Occupy crowd, let alone get elected because they pandered to the Occupy crowd.

this is how much i care.....people are still occupying?.....yesterday's news

Originally Posted by irish_2003

this is how much i care.....people are still occupying?.....yesterday's news

Time for some bean bag and tear gas fun.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Ahahaha, that guy is a moron.

enough said.

How dare this pious a hole think he can justify even 1 of these persons feelings!

How dare he even try to reverse the argument and compare someone getting a play station for christmas to someone getting a college fund, and a multi million dollar inheritance.

You call this guy a journalist? I call him Joseph Goebbels reincarnate!

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Ahahaha, that guy is a moron. I don't think the occupy people would have any problem living off the land, they're mostly hippies. Now, put the 1% in a log cabin with no food or resources and they'd be dead in 15 minutes. It's easy to say you can do anything when your daddy is rich, everything has been handed to you and you've never had to face adversity in your life.

That is a bullshit claim.
I grew up with a bottom of the ladder mom, and a top of the ladder father. Yes you are right, my mother would survive no problem.
My dad who was in the upper tier of the banking realm, would also survive, and has always loved the outdoors.
Money doesn't make someone less capable to survive.
Adversity comes in many forms bro. Some people thrive in war, yet can't handle their wives yelling at them. It crushes them.
Adversity to some means having to put up with a Porsche instead of a Ferrari.

Adversity to some means having to put up with a Porsche instead of a Ferrari. [/QUOTE]

Lmao....loved that line!!!

Originally Posted by Big Pimpin

^^^ I would beg to differ as the Tea Party is accountable for dozens of congressional wins, while I find it hard to believe a single DNC candidate would strongly associate himself with the Occupy crowd, let alone get elected because they pandered to the Occupy crowd.

And it took how many years for that to happen? Oh that's right, four years. They were founded in 2006.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_...olitical_party)

And many of their "wins", especially when it comes to tax and military policy, go against what the Tea Party is supposed to believe in.

They should be for eliminating corporate subsidies as that's a form of wealth redistribution.

They should be for reducing military spending as we don't need 881 billion dollars in defense spending ( 33% of the 2.267 trillion in estimated receipts - I didn't calculate it as a portion of discretionary spending or discretionary (non medicare/ss) income ).

They should be for gay marriage to be handled at the state level as that is where it's appropriate for this to be handled, not at the federal level.

They should be for legalizing, or at a minimum de-criminalizing most drugs.

Their actions speak louder than their words.

This guy is an idiot

Occupy is VERY real.......and its not going to just go away

He reminds me of John Stossel. Same condescending journalism style

BANGOR, Maine — Occupy Bangor protesters who have camped out overnight on Bangor Public Library property since last weekend have expressed their views peacefully thus far, according to library officials. As a result, the library’s board members on Tuesday voted 6-2 not to adopt a policy that would prohibit the demonstrators from camping out on library property after 10 p.m.
Occupy Bangor protesters spend their daytime hours in Peirce Park, which is next to the library, but a city ordinance prohibits them from being on park property after 10 p.m. No such curfew exists for the library.
Norman Minsky, chairman of the library’s board, along with library director Barbara McDade, said that approximately 904 people visited the library on Monday, compared with 750 four weeks ago.
“There’s been 30 phone calls since 11 this morning, and all 30 support the library’s decision,” said Minsky. “Things can change, and the library will adapt if necessary.”
McDade said demonstrators have been careful to set up their tents away from the library’s children’s area.
“So far Occupy Bangor has been very cooperative. Anything that we have asked them to do they have done it,” said McDade.
McDade cited the First Amendment right to freedom of speech as a major reason the board decided not to pursue adopting a policy.
“We do believe deeply in the First Amendment, so they do have the right to share their views with the public,” she said.
Sunny Hughes, a member of the media team for Occupy Bangor, said the demonstrations have been well-received thus far.
“I think it’s been very peaceful,” she said. “We haven’t had any complaints at all. We’re still in regular communication with the city.”
McDade also noted that the demonstrators’ daytime activities don’t take place on library property and that patrons shouldn’t have any fear about walking past occupiers.
In fact, the protest provides area children a fantastic learning experience, she said.
“More than one person has told me they come with their children and it’s a very teachable moment to tell their children these are people that are protesting something they think is wrong, and this is how we do it in the U.S.,” McDade said.
Occupy Bangor is part of a national grass-roots movement designed to call attention to the continuing economic problems faced by 99 percent of the population who are poor and middle class, according to organizers.
Minsky and McDade said that if things do get out of hand, they will take action quickly.
“We do have the right to maintain calm and peace and so forth on our property,” said Minsky. “We do have the right to maintain order in the library and on library property.”
“If we hear any intimidation, we will go out and ask them to stop,” McDade said. “If they do not stop, we will call the police and ask them to be escorted away for trespassing.”
Hughes said the Occupy Bangor protesters intend to remain camped out for “as long as it takes,” and that a family day is being planned for Saturday.
Things were relatively quiet around the Occupy Bangor camp on Tuesday afternoon after the board meeting, at which no demonstrators were present.


It's just a peaceful gathering in my town. The library even voted to let them camp out on their grounds. Not a cop in sight when I went by there today. Btw, they are camping in freezing temps and snow.

They should all try and get a job.

Well his asymptote analogy is kinda screwy. First he shows what looks a vertical asymptote but that by definition cannot transition into a horizontal asymptote. Even if the first graph isn't a vertical asymptote, I can't think of a function that increases exponentially concave up then transitions at an inflection point to concave down and then settles down to form a horizontal asymptote. So I agree, he's a total moron.

Originally Posted by troubador

Well his asymptote analogy is kinda screwy. First he shows what looks a vertical asymptote but that by definition cannot transition into a horizontal asymptote. Even if the first graph isn't a vertical asymptote, I can't think of a function that increases exponentially concave up then transitions at an inflection point to concave down and then settles down to form a horizontal asymptote. So I agree, he's a total moron.

I thought the same thing, they're polar opposites of one another yet he uses them singularly to prove a point that he is completely pulling out of his ass.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I thought the same thing, they're polar opposites of one another yet he uses them singularly to prove a point that he is completely pulling out of his ass.

Not really, the polar opposite of a vertical asymptote would be a vertical asymptote with the y values approaching infinity with the positive or negative sign swapped.

Originally Posted by Patriot1405

Adversity to some means having to put up with a Porsche instead of a Ferrari.

Lmao....loved that line!!![/QUOTE]


haha thanks bro

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Ahahaha, that guy is a moron.

complete moron but would not expect anything less from a conservative that lives in a alternate reality.

the student loan default rate is steadily increasing after reaching an all time high in the early 1990's. but it is still above 10%. the underemployed are at about 1 in 5 (20%) of the current labor force. and on average those that lost a full time job and found another have seen a decrease in earnings of 20%.

From the Princeton paper that I attached below:

"Concluding Remarks

Job loss and worker dislocation are facts of life in the U.S. economy, and they are part of an efficient labor allocation process. However, the costs of job loss have been particularly severe in the Great Recession. During this period (job loss in 2007-2009) I find that:

* About 16 percent of people aged 20-64 reported having lost a job.

* Less than 50 percent of job losers are employed in January 2010 (a much lower fraction than in earlier periods).

* While reemployed job losers did not suer particularly long spells of unemployment, the large number of job losers who did not find a new job have very long spells of unemployment. This is reinforced by the extremely long durations of spells of unemployment in progress reported in the basic CPS (a mean of about 35 weeks in 2010).

* About 20 percent re-employed full-time job losers are holding part-time jobs (a much higher fraction than in earlier period).

* Job losers who found new jobs earned on average 17.5 percent less on average on their new jobs than on the lost job, and losers of full-time jobs earnings 21.8 percent less on average than on the lost job.

* Counting foregone earnings increases enjoyed by non-losers, full-time job losers who found new full-time jobs suffered a total earnings loss of about 11 percent less on average on their new jobs than they would have had they not been displaced."

When you look at the numbers the total population of the OECD is 1.2B with the US having a population of about 300M and sustained 50% of the job losses during the global recession.

He's a fucking pompus prick.

However, I did laugh at some of it. I don't agree with it, he groups all of these people as liberals and tree huggers. That couldn't be farther from the truth.

Originally Posted by LAM

complete moron but would not expect anything less from a conservative that lives in a alternate reality.

the student loan default rate is steadily increasing after reaching an all time high in the early 1990's. but it is still above 10%.

He acknowledged their degrees weren't paying off.

Originally Posted by troubador

He acknowledged their degrees weren't paying off.

it's not just those with degrees...there are substantially less jobs after each recession recovery since 1984 for each level of education.

* this is a devastating trend for the working class. combine this with wages that no longer increase with productivity and failing tax revenues as a percentage of GDP it does not look very favorable in terms of the future of the big 3 in the US. unfortunately too many Americans have bought into the bullshit that the US is a high tax country when it is a low tax country, one of the lowest in the OECD, it is a trap to de-fund the federal gov but most do not realize this. the US is pretty much the only country in the OECD that has been constantly decreasing revenue to it's government in non-recession, times.

cutting taxes in the US will not spur job creation like in the 80's, inflation is low, the FRB is lending at 0% (in the 80's it was at 14%) and taxes have been on the decline for decades. during the 80's taxes had just been increased years before in the late 70's.

in terms of large US firms which employee 1/5th of the US labor force off the top of my head this is most likely a combination of company's getting rid of unproductive and/or the least productive workers, jobs lost to technology, M&A's and off-shoring.

Will Libya be helping out our protestors now?

Originally Posted by troubador

Not really, the polar opposite of a vertical asymptote would be a vertical asymptote with the y values approaching infinity with the positive or negative sign swapped.

Polar wrt his point, one approaches infinity as the x value increases while the other approaches infinity as it decreases.

He hit the nail on the head!! Great video

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Polar wrt his point, one approaches infinity as the x value increases while the other approaches infinity as it decreases.

Vertical asymptotes form as x approaches a certain value where for every x closer to c(the x where a V.A. occurs) you get a greater y value. Horizontal asymptotes form as x tends to infinity the y values settle down to some number.

You partially described the same thing - vertical asymptotes. Notice in the graph the y values approach infinity as x approaches c (-2), it doesn't matter whether or not x is increasing or decreasing.





Wrt his point, x(time) will never decrease anyway.