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    I'm surprised this isn't getting moar media attention. Not sure if it's because it's Canada (therefore, no one cares), or because it may threaten the overall climate change agenda. Either way, it's a step in the right
    direction. It' so ironic that, as the rest of the developed world is starting to wake up and reject leftist ideas (e.g. climate change, multiculturalism, open borders, cradle-to-grave entitlements, etc.), we're pushing them even harder in the US&A.n Perhaps it's true that you have to hit rock-bottom before any real recovery can begin.

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    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
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    to improve their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf View Post
    It' so ironic that, as the rest of the developed world is starting to wake up and reject leftist ideas (e.g. climate change, multiculturalism, open borders, cradle-to-grave entitlements, etc.), we're pushing them even harder in the US&A.n
    you really should try reading more, the open borders and NAFTA all started with Reagan it was part of his vision. It's surprising just how little you know about the right in this country. Reagan talked about open borders in the 50's when he was a spokesman for GE.
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    Well I can't say I'm too proud of my Country. I'm not much of a tree hugger, but the evidence is pretty overwhelming. I do see where they are coming from though, if China, Brazil and India won't jump on board, what difference is it really going to make, except to damage us economically. That said, Canada has been a roll model for many different issues in our short history.

    Anyone who is not a believer in climate change should watch the documentary, How to Boil a Frog...

    I think I'll go throw a tire on the fire now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    you really should try reading more, the open borders and NAFTA all started with Reagan it was part of his vision. It's surprising just how little you know about the right in this country. Reagan talked about open borders in the 50's when he was a spokesman for GE.
    More apples/oranges. I'm actually surprised that you didn't find a way to bring up labor unions in that response. When I used the term open borders, I wasn't referring to free trade agreements that have enjoyed bipartisan support for 20+ years now. I was referring to the liberal belief that people have an inherent right to live in any country they wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vancouver View Post
    Well I can't say I'm too proud of my Country. I'm not much of a tree hugger, but the evidence is pretty overwhelming. I do see where they are coming from though, if China, Brazil and India won't jump on board, what difference is it really going to make, except to damage us economically. That said, Canada has been a roll model for many different issues in our short history.

    Anyone who is not a believer in climate change should watch the documentary, How to Boil a Frog...

    I think I'll go throw a tire on the fire now...

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    Throw one one the fire for me. Make it a SUV tire whilst you're at it. I can't promise that I'll watch the doccumentary. But, they do have frog hot pot over here, so I already have experience with boiling frogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf View Post
    More apples/oranges. I'm actually surprised that you didn't find a way to bring up labor unions in that response. When I used the term open borders, I wasn't referring to free trade agreements that have enjoyed bipartisan support for 20+ years now. I was referring to the liberal belief that people have an inherent right to live in any country they wish.
    Damn, I forgot about the union issue. It could be that all the hot air coming from unions is heating up the earth. If we get rid of all the unions, maybe we can save the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf View Post
    Throw one one the fire for me. Make it a SUV tire whilst you're at it. I can't promise that I'll watch the doccumentary. But, they do have frog hot pot over here, so I already have experience with boiling frogs.

    It's a great movie; the guy who produced it doesn't live too far from me. His premise was to bring up facts about over consumption and how it's contributing to the planets destruction. It's not really a movie that puts down the oil and gas business; in fact, cows produce as much pollution as cars...

    I watched a slide show at National Geographic’s website about the creation of the planet and all of prehistoric time. I did not realize the globe heated up 5 times previously which caused mass extinction. At the current rate the planet is heating up, by 2100, parts of the planet could be uninhabitable...beyond that it's kind of scary. There are so many things we could do to reduce emissions that would not impact the global economy. Cattle ranching makes up less than 1% of our National GDP; if it disappeared...there would be very little impact globally. Cows are the number one methane gas emitters; it's projected we will have 60% more cows on the planet by 2030. If we replaced 60% of the world’s car fleet with electric, it would make no different to greenhouse gas...

    Perhaps replacing cows with a different livestock could make a bigger impact that reducing oil and gas emissions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vancouver View Post
    Perhaps replacing cows with a different livestock could make a bigger impact that reducing oil and gas emissions...
    Nothing mankind can do will stop the planet from warming up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Nothing mankind can do will stop the planet from warming up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vancouver View Post
    Uhhh...mixed messages? Here you go.

    So, you really think that the warming of the Earth can be stopped?

    Do tell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Uhhh...mixed messages?

    So, you really think that the warming of the Earth can be stopped?

    Do tell?
    We can slow human induced warming. The planet might very well heat up otherwise, but not nearly as fast...

    From Wiki (not that wiki is the authority on the subject matter, but the info is referenced and it's a place to start). There isn't a single scientific body that disagrees humans are responsible for speeding up the heating of the earth; only a retard would agure this point. You can read the rest yourself or visit National Geographic.


    Climate model projections are summarized in the 2007 Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). They indicate that during the 21st century the global surface temperature is likely to rise a further 1.1 to 2.9 °C (2 to 5.2 °F) for their lowest emissions scenario and 2.4 to 6.4 °C (4.3 to 11.5 °F) for their highest.[8] The ranges of these estimates arise from the use of models with differing sensitivity to greenhouse gas concentrations.[9


    Human activity since the Industrial Revolution has increased the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, leading to increased radiative forcing from CO2, methane, tropospheric ozone, CFCs and nitrous oxide. The concentrations of CO2 and methane have increased by 36% and 148% respectively since 1750.[46] These levels are much higher than at any time during the last 800,000 years, the period for which reliable data has been extracted from ice cores.[47][48][49][50] Less direct geological evidence indicates that CO2 values higher than this were last seen about 20 million years ago.[51] Fossil fuel burning has produced about three-quarters of the increase in CO2 from human activity over the past 20 years. The rest of this increase is caused mostly by changes in land-use, particularly deforestation


    Global warming controversy

    The global warming controversy refers to a variety of disputes, significantly more pronounced in the popular media than in the scientific literature,[139][140] regarding the nature, causes, and consequences of global warming. The disputed issues include the causes of increased global average air temperature, especially since the mid-20th century, whether this warming trend is unprecedented or within normal climatic variations, whether humankind has contributed significantly to it, and whether the increase is wholly or partially an artifact of poor measurements. Additional disputes concern estimates of climate sensitivity, predictions of additional warming, and what the consequences of global warming will be.
    In the scientific literature, there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused mainly by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases. No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view,[141][142] though a few organisations hold non-committal positions.
    From 1990-1997 in the United States, conservative think tanks mobilized to undermine the legitimacy of global warming as a social problem. They challenged the scientific evidence; argued that global warming will have benefits; and asserted that proposed solutions would do more harm than good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vancouver View Post
    We can slow human induced warming. The planet might very well heat up otherwise, but not nearly as fast...
    My point stands, global warming isn't going to stop for a long, long time. All the "horrors" show by the pro-global warming disciples is doing to happen. By "horrors", I mean change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    My point stands, global warming isn't going to stop for a long, long time. All the "horrors" show by the pro-global warming disciples is doing to happen. By "horrors", I mean change.
    You missed the point, that's why

    A 10 year old could tell you the planet is heating naturally. Thanks for the wisdom...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vancouver View Post
    You missed the point, that's why

    A 10 year old could tell you the planet is heating naturally. Thanks for the wisdom...
    a planet does that after an Ice Age..
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    Quote Originally Posted by vancouver View Post
    You missed the point, that's why

    A 10 year old could tell you the planet is heating naturally. Thanks for the wisdom...
    Healing naturally.

    Human are having little effect on the mean temperature. The lion's share of the heating is natural. You know, it started at the end of the last ice age. Of which there have been 5 major occurrences and will be more.

    On delusional morons think that nature is static.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Geared God View Post
    a planet does that after an Ice Age..
    Global warming disciples don't like to talk about ice ages and the cyclical nature of the Earth's temperature.

    They just like to talk about how the temperature should never change more than a few degrees.

    Because so sayeth the Global Warming Prophet, Al Gore.
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    Humans are doomed, nothing can stop that now. Like always humans will rise up at the last possible minute to try and fix all the destruction they have inflicted on the earth, but by then it will be decades too late.

    The good news is the earth will heal in a few centuries and life will go on. Can't say it's a shame the humans wont be around to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Global warming disciples don't like to talk about ice ages and the cyclical nature of the Earth's temperature.

    They just like to talk about how the temperature should never change more than a few degrees.

    Because so sayeth the Global Warming Prophet, Al Gore.
    You would argue that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

    You've already proven that you are a fucking idiot and pull theories out of your ass. It wasn't long ago that you tried to convince me that LA has 10X the area of NYC, even though it's really only 1.5X larger. Then you went on to say you meant LA county and that the LAPD patrols the whole county. To bad you never heard of the LA County Sherrif's Dept which is larger than the LAPD and patrols its own turf (excluding LA)...

    You're such a dumb fuck, it's hilarious

    What is so confusing about the fact that absolutly no scientific body disagrees that humans are contributing to global warming. Wipe the drool from your chin before you answer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vancouver View Post
    You've already proven that you are a fucking idiot and pull theories out of your ass. It wasn't long ago that you tried to convince me that LA has 10X the area of NYC, even though it's really only 1.5X larger. Then you went on to say you meant LA county and that the LAPD patrols the whole county. To bad you never heard of the LA County Sherrif's Dept which is larger than the LAPD and patrols its own turf (excluding LA)...
    I already covered the fact that you don't know how to read and that my original premise was correct.

    But I'm sure you mother believes you.

    Quote Originally Posted by vancouver View Post
    What is so confusing about the fact that absolutly no scientific body disagrees that humans are contributing to global warming. Wipe the drool from your chin before you answer...
    Keep talk out your ass, moron.
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    yet again vancover picks a fight against DOMS







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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant View Post
    yet again vancover picks a fight against DOMS
    And he'll get his ass handed to him again. He can't argue for shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    And he'll get his ass handed to him again. He can't argue for shit.
    thats why Im getting the popcorn out. last time was hilarious because he couldnt even see he was getting his ass handed to him.



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    You guys aren't buttfuck buddies are you???
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    I already covered the fact that you don't know how to read and that my original premise was correct.

    But I'm sure you mother believes you.



    Keep talk out your ass, moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    And he'll get his ass handed to him again. He can't argue for shit.
    You couldn't win an argument with Sarah Palin
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Global warming disciples don't like to talk about ice ages and the cyclical nature of the Earth's temperature.

    They just like to talk about how the temperature should never change more than a few degrees.

    Because so sayeth the Global Warming Prophet, Al Gore.
    So thats why they renamed it climate change was more fitting to the cause
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    Quote Originally Posted by vancouver View Post
    You guys aren't buttfuck buddies are you???
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    You couldn't win an argument with Sarah Palin
    All the fact-free, non-argument, I've come to expect from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Geared God View Post
    So thats why they renamed it climate change was more fitting to the cause
    They changed it a few years back when the mean temperature actually went down. At the same time, the Sun's activity went down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    All the fact-free, non-argument, I've come to expect from you.
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