Thread: Sweden legalizes and regulates cannabis

Sweden has always been a pretty smart country.

When I was in high school it was never more than $20 for a quarter oz. Now, they're selling it for like $50 for an 8th in the US. An ounce of good hydroponic weed is 2000RMB/oz or $315/oz in China now also. I remember when I could buy good weed for $100-$120/oz in the US just 14 years ago. I say fuck ligalizing it. We'll be paying $500/oz for the shit with taxes. Keep it illegal.

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

When I was in high school it was never more than $20 for a quarter oz. Now, they're selling it for like $50 for an 8th in the US. An ounce of good hydroponic weed is 2000RMB/oz or $315/oz in China now also. I remember when I could buy good weed for $100-$120/oz in the US just 14 years ago. I say fuck ligalizing it. We'll be paying $500/oz for the shit with taxes. Keep it illegal.

Are you sure that was "good weed?" I used to sell $25 quarter ounces to support myself through college, but it was bammer weed from mexico with seeds in it. The shit nowadays is like 18-20% thc, with no seeds.
I live in the pot capital of the US and a lb of good outdoor goes for as cheap as $1200 (5 years ago it was $3000), but the indoor is still around $2500-3000.
If it's legalized and taxed, you can still buy it off of the black market for really cheap and don't have to worry about going to jail.

Ya you can't beat the weed ol "pot city,usa" is growing. Even though I am ALL for legalization, I wonder what it would do to the housing market in cities where the marijuana industries is pretty much the pillar of local economy...

There is one great reasons to legalize pot: As people switch from cigarettes to weed, the cancer rate will plummet, thus saving millions (billions?) in health care costs. Everyone will benefit from that.

when I was a kid I could buy a 'Lid" for 20.00

daym I am old

Well always wanted to go to sweden.....


I would hate to see weed taxed but it could be a way to help....

Originally Posted by Little Wing

Sweden legalizes and regulates cannabis

Stockholm, December 19 - The Swedish Parliament has approved a law which will regulate the growing, usage and trade of cannabis. This is according to the Health and Social Services of Sweden, Jonas Grönhög, who was quoted, "We don't want to make the same mistakes which the USA has done, we do not want to be prohibitionists because the war on drugs has been lost long ago. It is better to prevent marginalization of young people than jail them for soft drugs usage which are comparatively harmless. If we allow the sale of alcohol, there is no reason to ban the soft drugs no longer."

Cannabis products are going to be available in the pharmacies in Sweden as non-prescription medicine since April 20 in 2012 and customers more than 18-year-old can buy 10 grams at once. Growing for personal usage will be tolerated up to 200 grams of dried marijuana and larger amounts stay illegal. It is likely that this will target the Police resources on more serious crime, especially on organized crime, drug trafficking and trafficking in human beings which have been increased for lack of the Police resources in recent years.

Source: 420 Dagbladet, Stockholm, December 19 2011


Sweden legalizes and regulates cannabis - justpaste.it

I say legalize "all" drugs. Who the heck is anyone else to regulate and tell YOU want you can and cannot put into your own body.

Imagine IF that were to happen, police can actually fight real crimes of the highest magnitude, and actually do the job they get paid to do.

Leave the little fish alone and go after the big fish. You know, the ones that rip off your 401K's, steal your house, rip you off in just about every which way possible. Rapists and murders...but that's a perfect world.

Everybody knows these white collar crimanals are better than you, and are above the law.

America, we're supposed to lead the world in just activities, and forward thinking.

Weed bad, greed good!

Originally Posted by IronAddict

I say legalize "all" drugs. Who the heck is anyone else to regulate and tell YOU want you can and cannot put into your own body.

Imagine IF that were to happen, police can actually fight real crimes of the highest magnitude, and actually do the job they get paid to do.

Leave the little fish alone and go after the big fish. You know, the ones that rip off your 401K's, steal your house, rip you off in just about every which way possible. Rapists and murders...but that's a perfect world.

Everybody knows these white collar crimanals are better than you, and are above the law.

America, we're supposed to lead the world in just activities, and forward thinking.

Weed bad, greed good!

you're missing the point, drugs are a big business in the USA, why do you think we're running out of prison space, the only ones that can peddle drugs legally are Big Pharma and the doctors they grease to promote their shit, and of course our government wins because they are in Big Pharma's back pocket, jobs are created by more cops and more prisons, etc. I guess it's just trickle down economics. lol

For anyone that has not seen this movie, rent it!

Originally Posted by Prince

you're missing the point, drugs are a big business in the USA, why do you think we're running out of prison space, the only ones that can peddle drugs legally are Big Pharma and the doctors they grease to promote their shit, and of course our government wins because they are in Big Pharma's back pocket, jobs are created by more cops and more prisons, etc. I guess it's just trickle down economics. lol

For anyone that has not seen this movie, rent it!

Exactly. The U.S. has known for decades that pot is not more harmful than alcohol (actually less). Politian’s have used the issue to get elected and the prison system has benefited (those people are the true criminals). If it were to be legalized and regulated, the U.S. unemployment rate would rise 1% as a result of prisoners being pardoned. It would probably rise another .5% with DEA unemployment.

Still, legalizing could spur on entrepreneurship which would see unemployment fall or be offset at least. Certainly the money saved on the war on drugs could be put too much better use.

It's estimated the Cannabis industry in B.C. is responsible for up to 10% of total GDP, even though the actual sale would be significantly less. All the spinoff industries benefit, from hydroponic supply shops to money from profits injected into the economy.

Despite all the smart reasons why it should be legalized; we should concentrate more on the dumb reasons it's illegal to begin with...

See ya's later I'm off to Sweden.

Awe..., how sweet it would be, to live in Sweden :-)

Originally Posted by swollen

Awe..., how sweet it would be, to live in Sweden :-)

If this story were not fake, it would be.

'Sweden Legalizes Cannabis' Story Is Just A Hoax - Toke of the Town

Originally Posted by Laborer

Well always wanted to go to sweden.....


I would hate to see weed taxed but it could be a way to help....

Been there several times sometimes for extended periods. It's a pretty kick ass country.

Originally Posted by vancouver

we should concentrate more on the dumb reasons it's illegal to begin with...

that all started way back in the 50's or something as hemp rope was a direct competitor to Dupont's new nylon fibers. hemp growers were taxed so heavily it was no longer profitable. the criminalization of thc came in later years.

to date there is not a single case of cancer reported in any medical journal anywhere from mj use alone.

Big pharm will keep lobbying against it so people have to buy their expensive drugs with patents and numerous side effects of which you take other drugs to reduce....lol

Originally Posted by LAM

that all started way back in the 50's or something as hemp rope was a direct competitor to Dupont's new nylon fibers. hemp growers were taxed so heavily it was no longer profitable. the criminalization of thc came in later years.

to date there is not a single case of cancer reported in any medical journal anywhere from mj use alone.

Big pharm will keep lobbying against it so people have to buy their expensive drugs with patents and numerous side effects of which you take other drugs to reduce....lol

A class mate of mine made a valid point in class the other day. He said "as long as the cure for cancer is developed in the U.S. there will still be no cure".

A lot of people think that the bulk of crime is somehow related to narcotics. People commit crimes to feed the habit or commit crimes while trafficking. It turns out, according to a paper from John Jay University anthropologists, that crime rates lower when the prices of street narcotics do. Article Source: Study suggests lower price of drugs leads to less crime.

Here is a good read from Berkley:
http://elsa.berkeley.edu/econ/ugrad/...lon_daniel.pdf

"Conclusion
Drug prohibition has long been a point of contention among economists and policy
makers, with those supporting the liberalization of drug policies arguing that the harms
associated with a large underground economy outweigh the potential harms of the greater availability of currently illicit drugs. Unfortunately, there have been few opportunities to empirically study the effects of the liberalization of drug policies, meaning the debate has been largely theoretical, and at least with regard to decriminalization, the economic theory is largely ambiguous. As prohibitionist policies continue to fail to eradicate the drug problem and violence related to the illegal distribution of drugs grows, especially in drug-producing countries such as Mexico, the liberalization of drug policy is gaining traction in the public discourse both in the United States and abroad. This paper examined Portugal’s experience with the decriminalization
of all drugs, which began in 2001, finding a positive correlation in the Portuguese case between decriminalization and homicide and drug mortality rates relative to other European Union countries."

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

When I was in high school it was never more than $20 for a quarter oz. Now, they're selling it for like $50 for an 8th in the US. An ounce of good hydroponic weed is 2000RMB/oz or $315/oz in China now also. I remember when I could buy good weed for $100-$120/oz in the US just 14 years ago. I say fuck ligalizing it. We'll be paying $500/oz for the shit with taxes. Keep it illegal.

That's cause you were smoking shitty weed back then. No way it can compare to the strains that are grown today. Plus the growing industry has changed so much since then. Indoor or a small outdoor greenroom is the way to go now. I wish we would leaglize it and cut out that fucking shitty ass mexican stuff. I'd love to have a plant for myself legally.

Originally Posted by LAM

that all started way back in the 50's or something as hemp rope was a direct competitor to Dupont's new nylon fibers. hemp growers were taxed so heavily it was no longer profitable. the criminalization of thc came in later years.

This is true. Not many people know this.