Thread: Trump drops Republican Party registration in NY

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

If this happens, get ready for 4 moar years of Barry.

Obama is not the problem, it's the GOP causing the problems, they just cannot handle a half black man as president.

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

Surely not! He must have more $ than god if he can afford such an expensive prank. If this happens, get ready for 4 moar years of Barry. He could take just enough % from the reps to help Barry win.


Trump drops Republican Party registration in NY - Yahoo! News

This is all a scam...

Trump donated tons of money to Obamas campaign back in 08 knowing he was gaurenteed the presidency...

He dosn't care what party is in power as long as they are the party he donated to so he can get favors when needed for the Trump organization...

He is a buisness man and one of the best...

He works and has a multi million $ contract with NBC...

NBC champions Obama and the Democrats...

They are a "team" Trump once put it referring to NBC and himself...

If he enters the race as an independant it's only to split the Replublican vote and preserve his investment he made in 08 and doubling down...

I love Trump and admire his business savviness, but this is all bad if he runs...

Originally Posted by Prince

Obama is not the problem, it's the GOP causing the problems, they just cannot handle a half black man as president.

This is bull...

They were getting ready to elect a full black man in the primary...



If all those deadbeat women didn't come out and scare the shit out of the voters in the polls...

Republicans don't care what race you are, they care about keeping their money they earned...

It's that simple...

They see what a waiste Washington has done with the money and see nothing improving, but the debt we owe...

Obama had a majority in the House and Senate for 2 years and could have passed anything he wanted...

He gave a trillion of borrowed money to Wallstreet and big buisness and passed a crappy health care law that is unconstitutional and is going to be overturned in the supreme court. He lost the Dems the house and almost the Senate for his performance durring those 2 years...

Don't blame Republicans for his dissapointing presidency...

Not even Democrats go along with his proposals... "jobs bill"

Originally Posted by ExLe

He gave a trillion of borrowed money to Wallstreet and big buisness and passed a crappy health care law that is unconstitutional and is going to be overturned in the supreme court. He lost the Dems the house and almost the Senate for his performance durring those 2 years...

Don't blame Republicans for his dissapointing presidency...

Not even Democrats go along with his proposals... "jobs bill"

better check your dates. the Tarp bill was passed in 2008 with the top bailout recipients being the same ones that lobbied for reduced regulation from 2002-2006 and was a major factor in causing the banking collapse which then turned into the now global recession.

Lobbying and the Financial Crisis (IMF 2011)
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2009/wp09287.pdf

economic policy from the GOP has caused 9 out of the last 10 recessions with the exceptions being the tech bubble burst in 2001 which was from over-investment and had nothing to do with policy and the oil shock in the early 70's when the US took the USD completely fiat and the price of crude doubled. the GOP surely isn't going to let Obama fix squat. you can go back a good 50 years and see the pattern of recessions that occur in the 2nd year of just about every GOP presidency. recessions cause permanent wealth transfers and fuel M&A's when smaller company's are struggling during recession recovery.

their plan for decades has been to reverse all the gains made by the middle class since the new deal reforms in the 40's and make government look as inept as possible. every single economist in the world and at the OECD has stated that capital projects are the way to get the unemployed back to work just like after the Great Depression but the GOP does not want government to be an answer or solution for anything, pretty much the opposite of all the other productive wealthy country's in the OECD. the anti-government bullshit and rhetoric from the GOP since the 80's is one of the major causes of the US rapid fall from it's top spot and why we will continue to fall, lower and lower and lower.

Nonfarm Business Sector: Labor Share
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/PRS85006173

* recession years are shaded in grey

Truman (D) 1945-1953
Eisenhower (R) 1953-1961
Kennedy (D) 1961-1963
Johnson (D) 1963-1969
Nixon(R) 1969-1974
Ford(R) 1974-1977
Carter(D) 1977-1981
Reagan(R) 1981-1989
GHB(R) 1989-1993
Clinton(D) 1993-2001
GWB(R) 2001-2009
Obama(D) 2009-

Originally Posted by ExLe

This is bull...

They were getting ready to elect a full black man in the primary...



If all those deadbeat women didn't come out and scare the shit out of the voters in the polls...

Republicans don't care what race you are, they care about keeping their money they earned...

It's that simple...

They see what a waiste Washington has done with the money and see nothing improving, but the debt we owe...

Obama had a majority in the House and Senate for 2 years and could have passed anything he wanted...

He gave a trillion of borrowed money to Wallstreet and big buisness and passed a crappy health care law that is unconstitutional and is going to be overturned in the supreme court. He lost the Dems the house and almost the Senate for his performance durring those 2 years...

Don't blame Republicans for his dissapointing presidency...

Not even Democrats go along with his proposals... "jobs bill"

You are a sad, sad, ignorant man.

Originally Posted by ExLe

This is bull...

They were getting ready to elect a full black man in the primary...



If all those deadbeat women didn't come out and scare the shit out of the voters in the polls...

Republicans don't care what race you are, they care about keeping their money they earned...

It's that simple...

They see what a waiste Washington has done with the money and see nothing improving, but the debt we owe...

Obama had a majority in the House and Senate for 2 years and could have passed anything he wanted...

He gave a trillion of borrowed money to Wallstreet and big buisness and passed a crappy health care law that is unconstitutional and is going to be overturned in the supreme court. He lost the Dems the house and almost the Senate for his performance durring those 2 years...

Don't blame Republicans for his dissapointing presidency...

Not even Democrats go along with his proposals... "jobs bill"

Exactly. I see Prince is Riding Obama's Cawk...

Originally Posted by LAM

better check your dates. the Tarp bill was passed in 2008 with the top bailout recipients being the same ones that lobbied for reduced regulation from 2002-2006 and was a major factor in causing the banking collapse which then turned into the now global recession.

Lobbying and the Financial Crisis (IMF 2011)
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2009/wp09287.pdf

economic policy from the GOP has caused 9 out of the last 10 recessions with the exceptions being the tech bubble burst in 2001 which was from over-investment and had nothing to do with policy and the oil shock in the early 70's when the US took the USD completely fiat and the price of crude doubled. the GOP surely isn't going to let Obama fix squat. you can go back a good 50 years and see the pattern of recessions that occur in the 2nd year of just about every GOP presidency. recessions cause permanent wealth transfers and fuel M&A's when smaller company's are struggling during recession recovery.

their plan for decades has been to reverse all the gains made by the middle class since the new deal reforms in the 40's and make government look as inept as possible. every single economist in the world and at the OECD has stated that capital projects are the way to get the unemployed back to work just like after the Great Depression but the GOP does not want government to be an answer or solution for anything, pretty much the opposite of all the other productive wealthy country's in the OECD. the anti-government bullshit and rhetoric from the GOP since the 80's is one of the major causes of the US rapid fall from it's top spot and why we will continue to fall, lower and lower and lower.

Nonfarm Business Sector: Labor Share
Nonfarm Business Sector: Labor Share (PRS85006173) - FRED - St. Louis Fed

* recession years are shaded in grey

Truman (D) 1945-1953
Eisenhower (R) 1953-1961
Kennedy (D) 1961-1963
Johnson (D) 1963-1969
Nixon(R) 1969-1974
Ford(R) 1974-1977
Carter(D) 1977-1981
Reagan(R) 1981-1989
GHB(R) 1989-1993
Clinton(D) 1993-2001
GWB(R) 2001-2009
Obama(D) 2009-

Bullshit. You need to research the Dodd-Frank Bill. It was the DEMOCRATS who told Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to issue loans to people who they KNEW weren't qualfied to pay them back.

*Barack's multiple failed stimulus packages
*Repeated Bailouts

Also, how long have the democrats had control of the house and the senate prior to 2010? They FAILED to even put forth a budget. They did as they pleased; in turn, plunging the economy into even more debt.

Remember, friends don't let friends vote democrat.

Originally Posted by secdrl

Bullshit. You need to research the Dodd-Frank Bill. It was the DEMOCRATS who told Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to issue loans to people who they KNEW weren't qualfied to pay them back.

*Barack's multiple failed stimulus packages
*Repeated Bailouts

Also, how long have the democrats had control of the house and the senate prior to 2010? They FAILED to even put forth a budget. They did as they pleased; in turn, plunging the economy into even more debt.

Remember, friends don't let friends vote democrat.

^This^

Look at the sweetheart deals that Dodd received. Barney Fagg was also defending Fannie Mae a couple years before the meltdown. There's more than enough blame to go around. The dems in Congress are just as responsiible as the repubs for the meltdown.

Originally Posted by Prince

Obama is not the problem, it's the GOP causing the problems, they just cannot handle a half black man as president.

That's ridiculous. Maybe if the Halfrican had demonstrated some leadership abilities and had fullfilled any of his campaign promises after 3 years in office, he would be more respected. So far, the economy is still a wreck, unemployment hasn't moved, and his only accomplishment has been a disaster of a healthcare bill that he had to bribe his fellow democrats to pass. A white guy with the same track record would likely have similar poll numbers.

Originally Posted by secdrl

Bullshit. You need to research the Dodd-Frank Bill. It was the DEMOCRATS who told Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to issue loans to people who they KNEW weren't qualfied to pay them back.

*Barack's multiple failed stimulus packages
*Repeated Bailouts

Also, how long have the democrats had control of the house and the senate prior to 2010? They FAILED to even put forth a budget. They did as they pleased; in turn, plunging the economy into even more debt.

Remember, friends don't let friends vote democrat.

the good thing about history is that you can't change it...your are obviously one that has been educated on economics from tv which means just about everything you think is a fact is not. and a balanced budget has nothing at all do do with the housing bubble or global banking collapse, you have not a clue about the topic at hand nor economics in general.

I've read the bill you obviously have not..the Dodd-Frank Bill is financial reform legislation that was put into place AFTER the housing bubble burst banking collapse..time lines and facts are rather relevant in topics like these.

It was deregulation and fraud on Wallstreet and the trading houses that caused the banking collapse as neither the Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, CRA banks nor LMI borrowers where the cause. The housing boom was started by the reduction of the capital gains tax (Tax Payer Relief Act of 1997) which turned the residential home from a safe long term investment into a high risk short term commodity which substantially increases volatility. That legislation was proposed by John Kasich the current governor of Ohio. This is when people all over the US started "flipping" houses for profit the result is seen in the historical chart of the Case Shiller Index below and how US homes hit historical high prices in all 50 states. residential homes are supposed to increase in value as real income growth increases and not just simply supply and demand.

Historical Case Shiller Index
The New York Times > Week in Review > Image > Graphic: A History of Home Values

* from the government

Congressional Research Service: Causes of the Financial Crisis
http://opencrs.com/document/R40173/2...download/1005/

* from an independent 3rd party law firm that works in that sector

The Community Reinvestment Act: A Welcome Anomaly in the Foreclosure Crisis
Indications that the CRA Deterred Irresponsible Lending in the 15 Most Populous U.S. Metropolitan Areas
http://traigerlaw.com/publications/t...ty_1-26-09.pdf

* and from the OECD

The Current Financial Crisis: Causes and Policy Issues
www.oecd.org/dataoecd/47/26/41942872.pdf

* and from the Central Bank (Federal Reserve)

"
Abstract

A growing literature suggests that housing policy, embodied by the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) and the affordable housing goals of the government sponsored enterprises, may have caused the subprime crisis. The conclusions drawn in this literature, for the most part, have been based on associations between aggregated national trends. In this paper we examine more directly whether these programs were associated with worse outcomes in the mortgage market, including delinquency rates and measures of loan quality. We rely on two empirical approaches. In the first approach, which focuses on the CRA, we conjecture that historical legacies create significant variations in the lenders that serve otherwise comparable neighborhoods. Because not all lenders are subject to the CRA, this creates a quasi-natural experiment of the CRA’s effect. We test this conjecture by examining whether neighborhoods that have been disproportionally served by CRA-covered institutions historically experienced worse outcomes. The second approach takes advantage of the fact that both the CRA and GSE goals rely on clearly defined geographic areas to determine which loans
are favored by the regulations. Using a regression discontinuity approach, our tests compare the marginal areas just above and below the thresholds that define eligibility, where any effect of the CRA or GSE goals should be clearest. We find little evidence that either the CRA or the GSE goals played a significant role in the subprime crisis. Our lender tests indicate that areas disproportionately served by lenders covered by the CRA experienced lower delinquency rates and less risky lending. Similarly, the threshold tests show no evidence that either program had a significantly negative effect on
outcomes."

The Subprime Crisis: Is Government Housing Policy to Blame?
http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/f.../201136pap.pdf


* so if you want to go on about bailouts lets talk about why the banking collapse and housing bubble came to be in the first place...

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

That's ridiculous. Maybe if the Halfrican had demonstrated some leadership abilities and had fullfilled any of his campaign promises after 3 years in office, he would be more respected. So far, the economy is still a wreck, unemployment hasn't moved, and his only accomplishment has been a disaster of a healthcare bill that he had to bribe his fellow democrats to pass. A white guy with the same track record would likely have similar poll numbers.

seriously take that MBA and throw it in the trash . you have not a clue about economics or US recession history or global banking collapses.

US recession history shows that 70% of the net job gains in recession recovery come from small businesses. all of the reports out of the SBA are stating that banks are unwilling to lend now and haven't for years. 80% of small business owners are having to use their own personal credit cards to fund operations as they can not obtain business credit. large firms do not create any net jobs, which is why tax breaks for them and the reduction on capital does nothing. out of the 5 income quintiles only the top receives any income fro capital at close to 33% of the annual.

it typically takes 5 years after a banking collapse in a country to restore the economy to pre-recession growth levels (see banking collapse in Japan in the 90's for details). US recession history from the Great Depression showed us when gov stimulus is contracted during recession recovery when unemployment is still high it makes the recession longer and harder. and this is what the GOP controlled House demanded.

all of the leading nobel economists stated in 2009 that the stimulus was too small and relied far too much on tax cuts, which historically have never created any net jobs in the US. 800B out of an annual 14T GDP spread out over 3 years is only a 2% stimulus, far too small for the amount of wealth that was lost by the working class and especially considering that wage growth from 2001-2007 was equivalent to that during the Great Depression for most of the working class and below.

and if you bothered to read any of the Global Wage Reports from the ILO from 2008/2009 or 2010/11 you would have found out that all of the empirical data shows that the US suffers from the greatest number of low paid workers out of all wealthy, highly industrialized country's in the OECD at 25% of the labor force. this contributes to not only more bubble and burst cycles due to decreasing funds rates out of the central bank over the decades and more riskier methods of gambling on wallstreet because of that but it makes for a slow recession recovery since so much of that 25% force falls into the category of the working poor. on average the annual savings rate of the 2 bottom income quintiles is less than 0.05% of annual earnings.

hundreds of economists in the US and all over the globe have been calling for the US to increase the minimum wage. since wages have not kept up with the increases in productivity over the decades there would be no increase in price inflation.

* granted the democrats are a bunch of stupid spineless cowards it's the economic policies of the GOP which have caused all of the problems we are facing today and will tomorrow with their laize fare policies that always go to far for this day and age with liberalized trade and the lowest worker protection policies in the OECD. it's why country's are dropping the USD as the sole reserve currency and why many country's are started to distance themselves from the US.

Come on. Without even going into specifics or naming left-leaning 'sources,' l you have to do is look around you to see the democrats' policies have failed. We have a president, who, over the past 3 years has blamed Bush. (and continues to do so) He is enthralled with entitlements and 'freebies.' As are the house and senate democrats. Obviously, I believe the republicans and democrats have contributed to this mess, but to try to deflect any responsibility from the democrats is irresponsible.

Originally Posted by LAM

better check your dates. the Tarp bill was passed in 2008 with the top bailout recipients being the same ones that lobbied for reduced regulation from 2002-2006 and was a major factor in causing the banking collapse which then turned into the now global recession.

Lobbying and the Financial Crisis (IMF 2011)
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2009/wp09287.pdf

economic policy from the GOP has caused 9 out of the last 10 recessions with the exceptions being the tech bubble burst in 2001 which was from over-investment and had nothing to do with policy and the oil shock in the early 70's when the US took the USD completely fiat and the price of crude doubled. the GOP surely isn't going to let Obama fix squat. you can go back a good 50 years and see the pattern of recessions that occur in the 2nd year of just about every GOP presidency. recessions cause permanent wealth transfers and fuel M&A's when smaller company's are struggling during recession recovery.

their plan for decades has been to reverse all the gains made by the middle class since the new deal reforms in the 40's and make government look as inept as possible. every single economist in the world and at the OECD has stated that capital projects are the way to get the unemployed back to work just like after the Great Depression but the GOP does not want government to be an answer or solution for anything, pretty much the opposite of all the other productive wealthy country's in the OECD. the anti-government bullshit and rhetoric from the GOP since the 80's is one of the major causes of the US rapid fall from it's top spot and why we will continue to fall, lower and lower and lower.

Nonfarm Business Sector: Labor Share
Nonfarm Business Sector: Labor Share (PRS85006173) - FRED - St. Louis Fed

* recession years are shaded in grey

Truman (D) 1945-1953
Eisenhower (R) 1953-1961
Kennedy (D) 1961-1963
Johnson (D) 1963-1969
Nixon(R) 1969-1974
Ford(R) 1974-1977
Carter(D) 1977-1981
Reagan(R) 1981-1989
GHB(R) 1989-1993
Clinton(D) 1993-2001
GWB(R) 2001-2009
Obama(D) 2009-

So then why didn't Obama and the Dems approve any capital projects to help the unemployed when they had the House and the Senate?...

Why do all 50 states have to have a balanced budget, but not the Federal Gov.?...

Originally Posted by LAM

seriously take that MBA and throw it in the trash . you have not a clue about economics or US recession history or global banking collapses.

US recession history shows that 70% of the net job gains in recession recovery come from small businesses. all of the reports out of the SBA are stating that banks are unwilling to lend now and haven't for years. 80% of small business owners are having to use their own personal credit cards to fund operations as they can not obtain business credit. large firms do not create any net jobs, which is why tax breaks for them and the reduction on capital does nothing. out of the 5 income quintiles only the top receives any income fro capital at close to 33% of the annual.

it typically takes 5 years after a banking collapse in a country to restore the economy to pre-recession growth levels (see banking collapse in Japan in the 90's for details). US recession history from the Great Depression showed us when gov stimulus is contracted during recession recovery when unemployment is still high it makes the recession longer and harder. and this is what the GOP controlled House demanded.

all of the leading nobel economists stated in 2009 that the stimulus was too small and relied far too much on tax cuts, which historically have never created any net jobs in the US. 800B out of an annual 14T GDP spread out over 3 years is only a 2% stimulus, far too small for the amount of wealth that was lost by the working class and especially considering that wage growth from 2001-2007 was equivalent to that during the Great Depression for most of the working class and below.

and if you bothered to read any of the Global Wage Reports from the ILO from 2008/2009 or 2010/11 you would have found out that all of the empirical data shows that the US suffers from the greatest number of low paid workers out of all wealthy, highly industrialized country's in the OECD at 25% of the labor force. this contributes to not only more bubble and burst cycles due to decreasing funds rates out of the central bank over the decades and more riskier methods of gambling on wallstreet because of that but it makes for a slow recession recovery since so much of that 25% force falls into the category of the working poor. on average the annual savings rate of the 2 bottom income quintiles is less than 0.05% of annual earnings.

hundreds of economists in the US and all over the globe have been calling for the US to increase the minimum wage. since wages have not kept up with the increases in productivity over the decades there would be no increase in price inflation.

* granted the democrats are a bunch of stupid spineless cowards it's the economic policies of the GOP which have caused all of the problems we are facing today and will tomorrow with their laize fare policies that always go to far for this day and age with liberalized trade and the lowest worker protection policies in the OECD. it's why country's are dropping the USD as the sole reserve currency and why many country's are started to distance themselves from the US.

Better yet, perhaps you should go back to engineering and stop pretending to be an expert in economics, socialist economics that is. I've run into so many engineers over the years who seem to think that they're experts in econ and fin. It's ridiculous. No shit the banks are still not lending. 90% of them were burned during the credit bubble.

I was in the midst of it. I also lost my job because of it. I am well aware that small businesses employ 70% of the population. I had over 20,000,000 in small business loans going bad with my signature on them. Once the shit hit the fan, I couldn't get a loan approved to save my life, regardless of whether or not it made sense, because my bosses were scared to death to approve anything. That's why credit is tight. The Fed funds rate was artificially low for too many years and made credit too easy to obtain. It's not because the big banks are evil and hate small business.

"Free trade" is also the law of the land. Might as well get over it. Yes, wages have gone down and are not going up anytime soon. But, a US Union worker, who's being paid $17/hour with benefits can't compete with a Chinese worker who's being paid $1/hour plus lunch.

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

Better yet, perhaps you should go back to engineering and stop pretending to be an expert in economics, socialist economics that is. I've run into so many engineers over the years who seem to think that they're experts in econ and fin. It's ridiculous. No shit the banks are still not lending. 90% of them were burned during the credit bubble.

I was in the midst of it. I also lost my job because of it. I am well aware that small businesses employ 70% of the population. I had over 20,000,000 in small business loans going bad with my signature on them. Once the shit hit the fan, I couldn't get a loan approved to save my life, regardless of whether or not it made sense, because my bosses were scared to death to approve anything. That's why credit is tight. The Fed funds rate was artificially low for too many years and made credit too easy to obtain. It's not because the big banks are evil and hate small business.

"Free trade" is also the law of the land. Might as well get over it. Yes, wages have gone down and are not going up anytime soon. But, a US Union worker, who's being paid $17/hour with benefits can't compete with a Chinese worker who's being paid $1/hour plus lunch.

Couldn't Agree More!

First off dont listen to anything Lam says political because he's on barrys bandwagon and i'm sure he has a few posters of barry on the wall. 2nd Trump wont get enough votes. There will be no IND party running and its either NEWT-ROMENY vs DUMB ASS

Originally Posted by ExLe

Republicans don't care what race you are, they care about keeping their money they earned...

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

"Free trade" is also the law of the land. Might as well get over it. Yes, wages have gone down and are not going up anytime soon. But, a US Union worker, who's being paid $17/hour with benefits can't compete with a Chinese worker who's being paid $1/hour plus lunch.

exactly my point about your lack of knowledge.."free trade" hasn't existed in 100 hundreds, no wonder you couldn't get a job in the US while I'll be working at EY for fun..

Originally Posted by FUZO

First off dont listen to anything Lam says political because he's on barrys bandwagon and i'm sure he has a few posters of barry on the wall. 2nd Trump wont get enough votes. There will be no IND party running and its either NEWT-ROMENY vs DUMB ASS

I do not favor much of the current policies of the Dems but am pretty much anti-GOP. the "success" of the conservative states in the south and the rapidly shrinking middle class in the US is pretty much all the proof that is needed of the complete failure of conservative economic policy in the US. the US ranks 25th in the OECD in terms of mathematics it's painfully obvious why most Americans can't understand even basic economic functions. when you don't know how something is supposed to work it's impossible to know how to fix something.

Originally Posted by LAM

I do not favor much of the current policies of the Dems but am pretty much anti-GOP. the "success" of the conservative states in the south and the rapidly shrinking middle class in the US is pretty much all the proof that is needed of the complete failure of conservative economic policy in the US. the US ranks 25th in the OECD in terms of mathematics it's painfully obvious why most Americans can't understand even basic economic functions. when you don't know how something is supposed to work it's impossible to know how to fix something.

Getting back to trump... he's nothing but a circus act...he's today's Barnum and Bailey.
Shit, you can't argue with his ways. He makes his money this way.

Originally Posted by LAM

exactly my point about your lack of knowledge.."free trade" hasn't existed in 100 hundreds..

I am well aware that free trade doesn't exist in reality. But what the hell does "hasn't existed in hundreds.." mean? And, have fun working in the mailroom at EY. Hope it's eveything you dreamt it would be.

Originally Posted by LAM

when you don't know how something is supposed to work it's impossible to know how to fix something.

True. So why are you still apologizing for this administration everytime anyone even sounds remotely critical? It's as if the lack of any notable improvement in 3 years is everyone else's fault besides the Barry administration.

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

I am well aware that free trade doesn't exist in reality. But what the hell does "hasn't existed in hundreds.." mean? And, have fun working in the mailroom at EY. Hope it's eveything you dreamt it would be.