Thread: Seriously RON PAUL WACK JOB

When did he say that he wants to remove all the bases? I've seen him talk about ending foreign aid, which I agree with. I've seen him talk about closing some bases, but he's never mentioned closing all of them. I also agree that some bases need to be closed. A lot of them in Europe to begin with.

Originally Posted by FUZO

Have you heard this nut.God everyone in this forum in 1 years time if Ron Paul became president would be saying what a mistale they made just like the mistake some of you made with Barry. This Ron Paul is a complete waste of a canidate.All of you can bash but just remember he would remove every singel army base in the world and would tear apart our military our country would be weaker then greece. So make the smart vote/. And even if Ron wins Iowa doesnt mean anything its the rest of the caucuses that will determine the nominee. And right now Newt leads with the Tea Partiers

Kinda like the same ole buyers remorse we've had after every presidential election, EVER, in the last twenty years. Yet, noone wants to criticize W?

Go figure.

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Yet, noone wants to criticize W?

Do you mean George W. Bush?

I wont vote for him, but I seriously have no idea who I am going to vote for. I don't want 4 more years of obama, but no one other then Perry do I half way like, but Perry is just about done.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Do you mean George W. Bush?

Yes, Doms. All these right wingers critcize Obama, now they're on to Paul and he isn't even the Prez.

They even still have the gall to say Carter was the worst Prez. of all time.

But noone ever calls that turd a turd.

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Yes, Doms. All these right wingers critcize Obama, now they're on to Paul and he isn't even the Prez.

They even still have the gall to say Carter was the worst Prez. of all time.

But noone ever calls that turd a turd.

I've heard plenty of people talk shit about GWB, both online and offline. That includes Republicans. The only people that think that Republicans don't criticize Bush are Democrats.

Carter was shit president. He made a lot of shit decisions. However, Bush and Obama and a whole other level of bullshit.

I also don't know where my vote is going, but as of today it would go to ron paul....pretty sure Congress will not let him shut down all of our bases.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

I also don't know where my vote is going, but as of today it would go to ron paul....pretty sure Congress will not let him shut down all of our bases.

I agree 100%. If you want real change, and not the bullshit Obama "change", it's gotta be Ron Paul. He's the only one not towing the same ol', same ol'.

Originally Posted by DOMS

I agree 100%. If you want real change, and not the bullshit Obama "change", it's gotta be Ron Paul. He's the only one not towing the same ol', same ol'.

Yes this is true but change for the sake of change amounts to what? An isolationist policy and a shutdown of many federal programs with no explanation of where the funding will go/come from??? Sorry, he hasn't sold me on shit yet. Produce a detailed plan with numbers, detailed explanations, short and long term goals; until then you are just blowing smoke up peoples asses.

Originally Posted by DOMS

I agree 100%. If you want real change, and not the bullshit Obama "change", it's gotta be Ron Paul. He's the only one not towing the same ol', same ol'.

Exactly, unlike Obama he has laid out a plan on what needs to be done.
Funny how people voted for Obama and his changes but I really can't recall him specifying what were the changes.
People must of fell in love with his story telling, its a shame because I really wanted this country to move ahead and prosper.

Originally Posted by FUZO

Have you heard this nut.God everyone in this forum in 1 years time if Ron Paul became president would be saying what a mistale they made just like the mistake some of you made with Barry. This Ron Paul is a complete waste of a canidate.All of you can bash but just remember he would remove every singel army base in the world and would tear apart our military our country would be weaker then greece. So make the smart vote/. And even if Ron wins Iowa doesnt mean anything its the rest of the caucuses that will determine the nominee. And right now Newt leads with the Tea Partiers

RP would have been better suited for the early 1900's. most of the things he proposes to do the POTUS lacks the power to accomplish. libertarian beliefs in many was totally dismiss hundreds of years of knowledge that we have learned in regards to human behavior and sociology such as self-regulation of the markets. self-regulation of the financial district in NY is what caused the global banking collapse. and there is not a single economists anywhere in the world that proposes that using gold as currency is a viable solution. the entire US economy is based on using paper currency. RP's tactics are to appeal to those that live in the past as if somehow it would be possible to apply things that we "should" have done then, now.

Originally Posted by oufinny

Yes this is true but change for the sake of change amounts to what? An isolationist policy and a shutdown of many federal programs with no explanation of where the funding will go/come from??? Sorry, he hasn't sold me on shit yet. Produce a detailed plan with numbers, detailed explanations, short and long term goals; until then you are just blowing smoke up peoples asses.

Check out his web site, he gives us a better explanation of his plan, something others don't do.

Originally Posted by oufinny

Yes this is true but change for the sake of change amounts to what? An isolationist policy and a shutdown of many federal programs with no explanation of where the funding will go/come from??? Sorry, he hasn't sold me on shit yet. Produce a detailed plan with numbers, detailed explanations, short and long term goals; until then you are just blowing smoke up peoples asses.

It's not isolationist. It's not funding other countries, especially those hate The United States of America. Almost all of it is a waste (Africa and the Middle East).

What's [the money] going to come from? That's a savings of 58 billion each year. And that's just foreign aid. That doesn't count military expenditures. That's a great start.

But yeah, electing someone that's going to keep throwing away money on stupid stuff is the way to go.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Exactly, unlike Obama he has laid out a plan on what needs to be done.
Funny how people voted for Obama and his changes but I really can't recall him specifying what were the changes.
People must of fell in love with his story telling, its a shame because I really wanted this country to move ahead and prosper.

"He speaks well."

Originally Posted by oufinny

Yes this is true but change for the sake of change amounts to what? An isolationist policy and a shutdown of many federal programs with no explanation of where the funding will go/come from??? Sorry, he hasn't sold me on shit yet. Produce a detailed plan with numbers, detailed explanations, short and long term goals; until then you are just blowing smoke up peoples asses.

And the other candidates have produced what explanations??
Right.

Oh besides 9-9-9.....
That was good for you oufinny?

Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

Oh besides 9-9-9.....
That was good for you oufinny?

what you didn't like Cains destroy the middle class tax and increase the poverty rate proposal?...

Who would you vote for Lam?

Im Voting for Bill Clinton lol, hell at this point I would take 8 more years with Bill any day.

Originally Posted by Boomer182

Im Voting for Bill Clinton lol, hell at this point I would take 8 more years with Bill any day.

Our first true black president.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Our first true black president.

Very true, and the man that made the 1990s fucking awesome in every way!

Gingrich. Romney is a snake.

They were good times... one of the few I ever lived in.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Who would you vote for Lam?

with our wonderful 2 party system in the US the dems are still the lesser of 2 evils. the radical right won't allow gov to solve any problems which makes any realistic recovery from this recession painfully slow and fuels further content among the masses for government which is a main goal of theirs. tactics like making such a big issue about Keystone XL is nothing but an attempt to pull voters away from the left and out of the metro areas, but these things work on the simple minded.

for the right Huntsman is the only sane one out of the bunch which is why he doesn't stand a chance against the other radicals as the right moves further in that direction. It would be interested to know what he learned from being ambassador to china that prompted him to jump into the ring.

ultimately nothing will change until more American's wake up and realize that has been done to the middle class the past 30 years. overall the US pop is not that intelligent as compared to other country's in the OECD and very uniformed (thanks to mass media outlets) which makes it extremely easy to manipulate the herd..

Originally Posted by secdrl

Gingrich. Romney is a snake.

Do you not think gingrich is a snake too? Romney is just bad at hiding his phoniness. Gingrich is a calculating sociopath. He might be the fastest route to totalitarianism. Maybe he'll have Henry kissinger as his VP.

I see newt as part of the old Bush regime, what fucking good has newt done?

Originally Posted by DOMS

I've heard plenty of people talk shit about GWB, both online and offline. That includes Republicans. The only people that think that Republicans don't criticize Bush are Democrats.

Carter was shit president. He made a lot of shit decisions. However, Bush and Obama and a whole other level of bullshit.

I agree, I don't hear many people defending bush these days, not even republicans.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Our first true black president.

I heard a republican make the claim that clinton was our best republican president in a while.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

I heard a republican make the claim that clinton was our best republican president in a while.

A little known fact, NAFTA was Bush seniors idea. Clinton just pushed it and it went through.