Thread: Arizona keeps it coming

Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules

German or English is good with me, just as long as the official language is not Mexican.

German is a very difficult language to learn. The different cases are extremely complex and the language is very indirect.

I reached the level of Intermediate in Spanish. A passive language. I like Espanol but don't want it in the US, nor do I want to Mexicans here.

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

That should come as no surprise. GWB was sucking Vinvente Fox's cock when he was pres. I wouldn't expect the next POTUS to do any differently. I'm not a conspiracy nut. But, I'm wondering if there may be something to the rumor of a North Amrican Union. I can't help but notice that as soon as NAFTA was passed, my hometown of Bham, AL was flooded overnite with Mexicans, 90% of them most likely illegal. It was around '97 and there was a huge exodus of illegals all through the southern states. It does seem that there's more going on than free trade.

So they left the south...?

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

German is a very difficult language to learn. The different cases are extremely complex and the language is very indirect.

I reached the level of Intermediate in Spanish. A passive language. I like Espanol but don't want it in the US, nor do I want to Mexicans here.

not really...

Originally Posted by Gissurjon

not really...

/Agreed


The Conjugation in the mexican/spanish langauge is idiotic in my opinion.
I took 3 years and it's really /facepalm

German is more logical. I also like Japanese.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

German is a very difficult language to learn. The different cases are extremely complex and the language is very indirect.

I reached the level of Intermediate in Spanish. A passive language. I like Espanol but don't want it in the US, nor do I want to Mexicans here.

Vietnamese is difficult, I had a Navsecgru friend who spoke Vietnamese and he tried to teach me some words one day. Some sound exactly alike except for a slight variation in a vowel. Chinese would probably be the second hardest and then German. Arabic seems pretty tough too. French and Spanish are pretty easy and probably why they are taught in schools....

Originally Posted by maniclion

Speak American you fucks, English is for those tea-sipping Brits and Canadians....

a lot of American/English words are derived from Spanish and Arabic

Personally I find English and Spanish way easier than most European languages I've taken a crack at learning. Among Scandinavians, German and English are pretty easy to learn, same goes for Spanish.
Back home you have to take a 3rd and a 4th language after 10th grade and Spanish and German are known as the easy classes while French is the hard class. If you wanna get a headache, have a crack at Icelandic (If you can find a teacher who actually knows it) it is virtually unheard of that a immigrant ever comes close to sounding like anything but a 5 year old.

Just to give you guys an example, my name is spelled and pronounced differently depending on the situation

Gissur Jon
Gissuri Joni
Gissurar Jons

Same goes for just about every word category in the language.

Originally Posted by Gissurjon

So they left the south...?

No. Unfortunately, they're still there. I phrased that wrong. I meant a mass exosud from Mex and into the southern states. But, apparently they went much further north also. The only good thing is that it's always easy to find a wetback to cut your grass, pull weeds, etc., as well as all the spic restaurants. Otherwise, I'd rather they gtfo. I've said for years that we need land mines along the border and guards who are ordered to shoot on sight.

Originally Posted by LAM

a lot of American/English words are derived from Spanish and Arabic

No they're not. The only place that "a lot" of influence exists is in the South West and Florida.

American English is a mix of Native American words describing the flora and fauna, Middle English (which died in England) and made up words along the way. French and Dutch have greater influence than does Spanish.
American English is not universal either; it is a set of dialects. Someone from Southie is going to have a real hard time conversing with a person speaking Cajun English from Louisiana.

Much of what was the former Louisiana Territory, almost 1/3rd of today’s U.S. (purchased in 1803), was heavily influenced by French. Even throughout the 1800's and early 1900's, French heavily influenced the language (as did the various Native American languages).

What was the original area of the U.S., the eastern third of what is now the U.S., was also heavily influenced by French and Native American languages; much of the territory was part of New France. A stripe starting in Maine and extending down to Georgia was of course mostly British (Middle English). Words from middle English mixed with French and Native American Languages is what most of the East, the former Louisiana territory and the Pacific North West is comprised of. The Southwest and Florida is influenced by Spanish, but not much of anywhere else.

Today's American English is closer to Middle English (the language Shakspeare spoke) than it is to modern British English. The same can be said for French spoken in Canada, it's closer to French spoken in 16th and 17th century France, which is the French that has infuenced American (or North American) English.

Originally Posted by vancouver

Today's American English is closer to Middle English (the language Shakspeare spoke) than it is to modern British English.

Do you have a few examples of such words?

Originally Posted by hypno

I for one say OH HOLY CRUD we are in deep s*** this country has become so stupid. If you don't believe me just look at the last two presidents. The people elect the worst that the republicans have to offer then go right off the deep end and elect the worst that the democrats have to offer.

I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Do you have a few examples of such words?

American English - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

English words that survived in the United States and not Britain

A number of words and meanings that originated in Middle English or Early Modern English and that always have been in everyday use in the United States dropped out in most varieties of British English; some of these have cognates in Lowland Scots. Terms such as fall ("autumn"), faucet, diaper, candy, skillet, eyeglasses, and obligate, are often regarded as Americanisms. Fall for example came to denote the season in 16th century England, a contraction of Middle English expressions like "fall of the leaf" and "fall of the year".[27] During the 17th century, English immigration to the British colonies in North America was at its peak and the new settlers took the English language with them. While the term fall gradually became obsolete in Britain, it became the more common term in North America. Gotten (past participle of get) is often considered to be an Americanism, although there are some areas of Britain, such as Lancashire and North-eastern England, that still continue to use it and sometimes also use putten as the past participle for put (which is not done by most speakers of American English).

Originally Posted by vancouver

American English - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

English words that survived in the United States and not Britain

A number of words and meanings that originated in Middle English or Early Modern English and that always have been in everyday use in the United States dropped out in most varieties of British English; some of these have cognates in Lowland Scots. Terms such as fall ("autumn"), faucet, diaper, candy, skillet, eyeglasses, and obligate, are often regarded as Americanisms. Fall for example came to denote the season in 16th century England, a contraction of Middle English expressions like "fall of the leaf" and "fall of the year".[27] During the 17th century, English immigration to the British colonies in North America was at its peak and the new settlers took the English language with them. While the term fall gradually became obsolete in Britain, it became the more common term in North America. Gotten (past participle of get) is often considered to be an Americanism, although there are some areas of Britain, such as Lancashire and North-eastern England, that still continue to use it and sometimes also use putten as the past participle for put (which is not done by most speakers of American English).

I was not aware that's where the difference came from. I thought it was simply a divergence on the part of Americans after the revolution.

Very cool.

Originally Posted by DOMS

I was not aware that's where the difference came from. I thought it was simply a divergence on the part of Americans after the revolution.

Very cool.

Yup, language in the old world evolved and in the new world it's stuck in the 17th century .

A lot of people consider Quebec French a slang version of standard French when in acuality it's 17th century French, same with American English (middle English). The main difference between American English and Canadian English is North of the border we took on some new British words and spelling rules (neighbourhood, neighborhood; Labour, Labor), but still we largely kept the middle English; our English is also more infuenced by French, but it's the same French that influences American English. You may not notice, but I write in American English when I reply to Americans and Canadian English when I reply to Canadians (most of the time).

To anyone outside of North America, the 2 cannot be distinguished easily, they are simply known as North American English or American English. It's not possible for Europeans or Asians to guess I'm Canadian unless I use the term Eh and they are familiar with it. Most of the time, people think I'm from the midwestern U.S. because I don't have a southern accent. When I was in Hawaii, they simply thought I was from L.A. For some reason when I'm in L.A., they know I'm from Canada...strange

Why do Canadians do so well in Hollywood? We can all pull off a killer American accent. We can also pull off most of the dialects, whereas a Southerner can almost never pull off the various dialects. So when you blame foreigners for taking your jobs, please include Canadian actors

Why this is important to me is a mystery, I'm intrigued by all the American Dialects (some very ugly, some beautiful)

Northern American English

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This article is about the variety of the English language spoken in the northern United States. For other uses, see Northern American English (disambiguation).
Northern American English (Northern AmE, also rendered as northern American English) is the variety of the English language used in the northern United States. Among the oldest and most pervasive of American English patterns, it is particularly used in New England, New York, New Jersey, and northeastern Pennsylvania, and the dialects extend beyond the Mississippi across northern Iowa, Minnesota, and the Dakotas.[1]
Canadian English is believed by some scholars to have originated from northern American English,[1] or to simply be a variety of it

Originally Posted by vancouver

The only place that "a lot" of influence exists is in the South West and Florida.[/FONT][/COLOR]

well apparently once again you are wrong....I suggest doing a more in depth study of etymology and getting a subscription to the oxford dictionary online. there are literally hundreds of english loan words from over 100 different languages.

Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

/Agreed


The Conjugation in the mexican/spanish langauge is idiotic in my opinion.
I took 3 years and it's really /facepalm

German is more logical. I also like Japanese.

I'm learning German right now. Conjugating the verbs is pretty tough for me.

I do have days when it just flows and I can speak and write it decently.

Originally Posted by LAM

well apparently once again you are wrong....I suggest doing a more in depth study of etymology and getting a subscription to the oxford dictionary online. there are literally hundreds of english loan words from over 100 different languages.

You might be the biggest dip shit that ever lived. You should try following my links before jumping to conclusions you cannot support. Further, any and everyone who follows my links (even with half a brain) will be able to see that you are 100% wrong.

Further, you said that a lot of American English is derived from Arabic. This statement alone might make you more than retarded. If you had any credibility as to your superior knowledge, you've 100% lost it after this post. Well actually you lose a bit more each time you argue with me.

First of all there are 9 distinct language families which are not even remotely related. Arabic is part of the Afro-Asiatic languages. French and English come from the Indo European languages (of which there are 439 languages). I'd really like to know how "a lot" of Arabic found its way into the English Language, before or after colonization????

Perhaps you are referring to Iranian, Persian or Indo-Iranian; they are in fact part of the Indo European family which is not even remotely close to Arabic (part of the Afro-Asiatic which comprises 374 languages which are not related to any Indo European languages). For those of you who lump Iran in with Arab's, there is no relation, Iranians have more in common with Europeans.

Now for your theory that "a lot" of American English is derived from Spanish, and the suggestion that I pick up an oxford dictionary...you are referring to Latin you fucking idiot. Spanish and French are derived from Latin (way down the Indo European family tree), but French and Spanish are 2 different languages that fall on different branches, Gallo Romance and Ibero Romance. Now since America was first colonized by the French and the only Spanish Influence came from the south (Spanish America), How the fuck did Spanish get mixed into North American English? It didn't you fucking Idiot, because American English is not even a language, it's a term to describe the "MANY" dialects. When people refer to American English, the inference it typically to North American English which is greatly influenced by French and Native American Languages (Georgia up to Maine and across the Midwest). There are Spanish Loan words, but it is to the lesser extent. Dialects in the south and Southwest are more heavily influenced by Spanish, but not more so than French, there are simply way more Spanish loan words.

Here you go fucktard, knock yourslef out (etymology genious)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ropeanTree.svg

Spanish Loanwords in English

List of English words of Spanish origin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of English words of French origin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are more French origin words starting with the letter A than all the Spanish origin words put together.

You really are Stupid!

A day in the life of LAM

Vancouver

I may have missed it, but are you studying or did you study linguistics?

Interesting topic.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

Vancouver

I may have missed it, but are you studying or did you study linguistics?

Interesting topic.

Not formally and I don't claim to be an expert. I know a lot about the Romance Languages which branches off to 47 languages. My mother is a Genealogist and my routes are traced back to 1604, the year Samuel de Champlain sailed into New France to begin the settlements. My other Grandparents lines date back to the late 1700's and early 1800's. All French (father’s side) and Irish (mother’s side) which immigrated to Quebec. Few would know this, but 40% of Quebecers have Irish blood. A town 15 minutes north west of Quebec City is the only place outside of Ireland where natives (not Indian) speak with an Irish Accent; these people date back to the 1700's; Unfortunately the last generation will die off. It was written about in Canadian National Geographic. Most of my family hails from that area (both French and Irish). I was there for a family reunion 10 years ago; there were hundreds from Eastern Canada, New England, New Jersey and as far down as Savannah. Many of America's Irish migrated south from Canada as the U.S. cut off Irish immigration during the Potato Famine.

I became very interested in my heritage about 12 years ago when the T.V. documentary "Canada a Peoples History" was produced (32 hour documentary). Shortly after, was my family reunion and the rest is history.

Both Gallic and French are Romance Languages. English is Germanic (part of the Indo European family), but most of the words come from Latin and French, German and Greek are also large components.

Canada: A People's History - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This Documentary would be very interersting to Americans as well; it covers a great deal of American History, remember, New France was around 200 years before the U.S. and extended all the way down to the Gulf of Mexico. The Documentery starts with the Native migration from Asia over the Northwest passage (Native Americans).

Originally Posted by vancouver

You might be the biggest dip shit that ever lived. You should try following my links before jumping to conclusions you cannot support. Further, any and everyone who follows my links (even with half a brain) will be able to see that you are 100% wrong.

Further, you said that a lot of American English is derived from Arabic. This statement alone might make you more than retarded. If you had any credibility as to your superior knowledge, you've 100% lost it after this post. Well actually you lose a bit more each time you argue with me.

First of all there are 9 distinct language families which are not even remotely related. Arabic is part of the Afro-Asiatic languages. French and English come from the Indo European languages (of which there are 439 languages). I'd really like to know how "a lot" of Arabic found its way into the English Language, before or after colonization????

Perhaps you are referring to Iranian, Persian or Indo-Iranian; they are in fact part of the Indo European family which is not even remotely close to Arabic (part of the Afro-Asiatic which comprises 374 languages which are not related to any Indo European languages). For those of you who lump Iran in with Arab's, there is no relation, Iranians have more in common with Europeans.

Now for your theory that "a lot" of American English is derived from Spanish, and the suggestion that I pick up an oxford dictionary...you are referring to Latin you fucking idiot. Spanish and French are derived from Latin (way down the Indo European family tree), but French and Spanish are 2 different languages that fall on different branches, Gallo Romance and Ibero Romance. Now since America was first colonized by the French and the only Spanish Influence came from the south (Spanish America), How the fuck did Spanish get mixed into North American English? It didn't you fucking Idiot, because American English is not even a language, it's a term to describe the "MANY" dialects. When people refer to American English, the inference it typically to North American English which is greatly influenced by French and Native American Languages (Georgia up to Maine and across the Midwest). There are Spanish Loan words, but it is to the lesser extent. Dialects in the south and Southwest are more heavily influenced by Spanish, but not more so than French, there are simply way more Spanish loan words.

Here you go fucktard, knock yourslef out (etymology genious)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ropeanTree.svg

Spanish Loanwords in English

List of English words of Spanish origin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of English words of French origin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are more French origin words starting with the letter A than all the Spanish origin words put together.

You really are Stupid!

What's with all the LAMesque posts lately?

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

What's with all the LAMesque posts lately?

LOL

Well the one may be LAMesque in that it's long and full of info many will find useless. In the case of LAM, 100% of his posts are useless

BTW, the word LAMesque is American English and comprised only of Spanish and Arabic influence...

Originally Posted by vancouver

LOL

Well the one may be LAMesque in that it's long and full of info many will find useless. In the case of LAM, 100% of his posts are useless

BTW, the word LAMesque is American English and comprised only of Spanish and Arabic influence...

No it's not dammit! It's 100% American! Ain't no mexican or towel head language in it!

Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf

No it's not dammit! It's 100% American! Ain't no mexican or towel head language in it!

lameSQUE

moSQUE


Coincidence? I think not.