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    Arizona keeps it coming

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    Arizona council candidate may be forced to take English test

    It’s nothing new for politicians to jab at their rivals’ (lack of) credentials. But their English proficiency? Welcome to San Luis, Ariz.
    The City Council recently asked for verification that activist and council candidate Alejandrina Cabrera could speak, read and write in English, as state law requires of public officials. The action was in response to allegations by Guillermina Fuentes, a former mayor of the fast-growing border city, the Yuma Sun reported.

    “I interpreted everything to Alejandrina because in many cases she did not understand what was being said,” Fuentes told the paper, which could not reach Cabrera for comment.

    The council’s action could mean that the city hires someone to test Cabrera’s English fluency. In San Luis, nearly all 25,000 residents are Latino and about 88% speak a language other than English at home, according to Census Bureau data.

    Cabrera is one of 10 council candidates running in the city’s March primary, the Sun said. She is considered something of a rabble-rouser, having spearheaded two failed recall attempts against the current mayor of San Luis, Juan Carlos Escamilla.

    Escamilla voted in favor of testing Cabrera’s grasp of English, TV station KSWT reported. "I feel I don't dominate 100%,” he said of his English skills, “but I can still get by, I can write, read and understand it very well.”
    The logic step is to make English the official language of the USA.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
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    about another group that actually does something
    to improve their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
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    The logic step is to make English the official language of the USA.
    It was actually almost German. That's what a good chunk of our founding fathers wanted, so I say we make switch now.
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    German or English is good with me, just as long as the official language is not Mexican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules View Post
    German or English is good with me, just as long as the official language is not Mexican.
    I'll only accept German if it also comes with showers for the Mexicans.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
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    Definately for people who want to represent Americans, if, they don't want to, where does their allegiance really lie?
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    It should be Spanish since the majority of America speaks it, ie Central, and South Americas, which includes three islands in the Caribbean and of course North America which i believe, correct me if im wrong, Spanish is the second most spoken language here. Not including Canada of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo View Post
    It should be Spanish since the majority of America speaks it, ie Central, and South Americas, which includes three islands in the Caribbean and of course North America which i believe, correct me if im wrong, Spanish is the second most spoken language here. Not including Canada of course.
    America is the short-hand for a citizen from the United States of America.

    In the same way that German is shot-hand for a citizen of the Federal Republic of Germany. Or do you call them Federal Republic of Germanians?
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo View Post
    It should be Spanish since the majority of America speaks it, ie Central, and South Americas, which includes three islands in the Caribbean and of course North America which i believe, correct me if im wrong, Spanish is the second most spoken language here. Not including Canada of course.
    ehhh, I'm with OP in this one. Any immigrant (legal or illegal) who resides in USA should make a effort to learn american English for their own benefit.
    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    I dig their music. Mariachi is good, and flamenco is the shit, although flamenco is all over the place. I use to hate Mexicans until I left my hillbilly land, and was able to form my own opinions.

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    Speak American you fucks, English is for those tea-sipping Brits and Canadians....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules View Post
    ^^^
    Shut it beaner
    i aint a mexican.

    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    America is the short-hand for a citizen from the United States of America.

    In the same way that German is shot-hand for a citizen of the Federal Republic of Germany. Or do you call them Federal Republic of Germanians?
    Duhh no kidding


    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Speak American you fucks, English is for those tea-sipping Brits and Canadians....
    Yea what he said! A true Americano.

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    Funny. Half of you can't put together an almost coherent sentence in English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gissurjon View Post
    Funny. Half of you can't put together an almost coherent sentence in English.
    Case and point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gissurjon View Post
    Funny. Half of you can't put together an almost coherent sentence in English.
    Actually, most of the posts in this thread have good spelling and grammar.

    You may want to check your reading comprehension.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
    to improve their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    I'll only accept German if it also comes with showers for the Mexicans.
    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    I dig their music. Mariachi is good, and flamenco is the shit, although flamenco is all over the place. I use to hate Mexicans until I left my hillbilly land, and was able to form my own opinions.

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    I agree w the OP. logical is the key word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Speak American you fucks, English is for those tea-sipping Brits and Canadians....
    We prefer beer and none of that watered down stuff you call beer in the U.S. It reminds me of your vocabulary

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    Quote Originally Posted by HialeahChico305 View Post
    ehhh, I'm with OP in this one. Any immigrant (legal or illegal) who resides in USA should make a effort to learn american English for their own benefit.
    If Chico can learn it, anyone can! He can even spell big words now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    I dig their music. Mariachi is good, and flamenco is the shit, although flamenco is all over the place. I use to hate Mexicans until I left my hillbilly land, and was able to form my own opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo View Post
    i aint a mexican.



    Duhh no kidding




    Yea what he said! A true Americano.
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    I find this confusing. Republicans are trying hard to test this woman's English skill to allow her to run for an elected office.

    Stopping right there I want to make clear I think everyone is the USA should know English.

    However, Republicans are all about not making more laws to encroach upon our freedoms. Yet one of the most basic, important, and taken for granted rights we have is the right to vote. If the majority of people vote for someone to represent them in government, like it or not, that's who they voted for.

    You may make the argument that one should understand what is being said and talked about or they cannot really be trusted to do the "right" thing and I would have to agree with you. Many other great arguments can be made as well. I would likely agree with most if not all of them.

    One thing I never acquiesce to though is not honoring the people. If they are SO STUPID as to elect someone then that should be what they get. Far to many have given their time, limbs and lives fighting for our right to be stupid not to honor that.

    After all it's not like the majority of people in this country even understand their rights. Care about their rights. Are willing to stand up for their rights. Willing to die for their rights. Are not so spoiled as to even know that their rights are fought and paid for by the blood of hero's.

    Most people here on IM seem to be much more aware of reality than the average person in this country regardless of their political beliefs. So what should it be? Honor the public will (vote) or not?

    I for one say OH HOLY CRUD we are in deep s*** this country has become so stupid. If you don't believe me just look at the last two presidents. The people elect the worst that the republicans have to offer then go right off the deep end and elect the worst that the democrats have to offer.

    Don't forget this fact as well...we let our government get so out of hand that corporations are now the real people and power here. Human beings are nothing more than workers to serve the corporations.

    How did we get so messed up? Someone running for office that doesn't understand English, corporations are people, pizza is a vegetable, steroids are the evilest of all drugs, and oh umm I guess I have gone on long enough.

    Hey at least John Huntsman says people are not corporations. I think Ron Paul thinks the same thing as well. (I am not sure) But because we are so stupid as a people neither one of them has any chance to be elected.

    Wow I am feeling somewhat sarcastic today. Sorry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hypno View Post
    I find this confusing. Republicans are trying hard to test this woman's English skill to allow her to run for an elected office.
    First off, I agree with nearly everything you said in your post. Nicely put.

    The reason for the law in Arizona is that they're doing whatever they can to stop the influx of Mexicans. If you get some shitty Mexican that got amnesty (in California), hasn't bothered to actually learns the language, and is being voted in by other Mexicans that got amnesty, this is how you stop it.

    I don't know where you live, but I've spent the majority of my life in the south-west. Mexicans are fucking it up and the actual Americans have had enough and are doing what they can to stem, and hopefully stop, the invasion.

    And it doesn't help that the President is a Mexican-pole smoking asshole. Or that many of the elected officials (in both parties) are willing to commit treason in order to get more votes.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
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    I was born in sad diego, ca. Sad Diego because of all the illigal's as well as some other things. I only recently moved to the mid west. I lived 35 minutes away from Tijuana for most of my life. I remember the illegals ever since I was a child. Funny thing is that most illegals back then were very hard working nice people. For some time now that has not been the case. They have somehow gotten the idea that they are entitled to anything they want and work is something they don't feel they need to do. You know, like the work of getting into the US the right way.

    It is all to funny, except it is also so dangerous that you are correct Obumo is a Mexican-pole smoking asshole


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    Quote Originally Posted by hypno View Post
    I was born in sad diego, ca. Sad Diego because of all the illigal's as well as some other things. I only recently moved to the mid west. I lived 35 minutes away from Tijuana for most of my life. I remember the illegals ever since I was a child. Funny thing is that most illegals back then were very hard working nice people. For some time now that has not been the case. They have somehow gotten the idea that they are entitled to anything they want and work is something they don't feel they need to do. You know, like the work of getting into the US the right way.

    It is all to funny, except it is also so dangerous that you are correct Obumo is a Mexican-pole smoking asshole
    I grew up in LA, but I've lived in places that were 98% or more white. I saw the wave of Mexicans come in and ruin the places. They turn them from first-world cities into third-world cities.

    Make no mistake, it's an invasion and we need to fight back.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
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    Quote Originally Posted by hypno View Post
    I was born in sad diego, ca. Sad Diego because of all the illigal's as well as some other things. I only recently moved to the mid west. I lived 35 minutes away from Tijuana for most of my life. I remember the illegals ever since I was a child. Funny thing is that most illegals back then were very hard working nice people. For some time now that has not been the case. They have somehow gotten the idea that they are entitled to anything they want and work is something they don't feel they need to do. You know, like the work of getting into the US the right way.

    It is all to funny, except it is also so dangerous that you are correct Obumo is a Mexican-pole smoking asshole
    I actually have heard the same thing. A family friend is an American, but comes from a mexican family and he works on a huge strawberry farm as the cook. he has noted a significant change in the type of mexicans that come here to work. He says that all of the older ones are incredibly respectful and hard working. But, the younger generation is a bunch of gangster wannabes that don't want to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    First off, I agree with nearly everything you said in your post. Nicely put.

    The reason for the law in Arizona is that they're doing whatever they can to stop the influx of Mexicans. If you get some shitty Mexican that got amnesty (in California), hasn't bothered to actually learns the language, and is being voted in by other Mexicans that got amnesty, this is how you stop it.

    I don't know where you live, but I've spent the majority of my life in the south-west. Mexicans are fucking it up and the actual Americans have had enough and are doing what they can to stem, and hopefully stop, the invasion.

    And it doesn't help that the President is a Mexican-pole smoking asshole. Or that many of the elected officials (in both parties) are willing to commit treason in order to get more votes.
    The other route is to simply not give amnesty...then no illegal immigrants will be voting; therefore, the chance of a non english speaker winning any election is very very low.

    I'm just not a fan of forced English by legislation or legal mandate. Its already forced socially really...unless you agree to be restricted to only work in unskilled labor forever. This elected official won't even be able to make vote or understand what is going on in the debate....she won't understand what motions are going on, what the rules of the forum are...ie she'll just get walked all over and be forced to be wall flower with no influence on the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
    The other route is to simply not give amnesty...then no illegal immigrants will be voting; therefore, the chance of a non english speaker winning any election is very very low.
    The damage that Jimmy Carter needs to be undone. Speaking English fluently needs to be mandatory for all immigration applicants.

    We also have to repeal the law of anchor babies.

    Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
    I'm just not a fan of forced English by legislation or legal mandate. Its already forced socially really...unless you agree to be restricted to only work in unskilled labor forever.
    The issue is that since the USA doesn't have an official language, fuck ass retards says shit like applications should be in Spanish (of the Mexican variety).

    Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
    This elected official won't even be able to make vote or understand what is going on in the debate....she won't understand what motions are going on, what the rules of the forum are...ie she'll just get walked all over and be forced to be wall flower with no influence on the board.
    She have the motions and documents translated. Fuck that, the bitch needs to go.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    And it doesn't help that the President is a Mexican-pole smoking asshole. Or that many of the elected officials (in both parties) are willing to commit treason in order to get more votes.
    That should come as no surprise. GWB was sucking Vinvente Fox's cock when he was pres. I wouldn't expect the next POTUS to do any differently. I'm not a conspiracy nut. But, I'm wondering if there may be something to the rumor of a North Amrican Union. I can't help but notice that as soon as NAFTA was passed, my hometown of Bham, AL was flooded overnite with Mexicans, 90% of them most likely illegal. It was around '97 and there was a huge exodus of illegals all through the southern states. It does seem that there's more going on than free trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf View Post
    That should come as no surprise. GWB was sucking Vinvente Fox's cock when he was pres. I wouldn't expect the next POTUS to do any differently. I'm not a conspiracy nut. But, I'm wondering if there may be something to the rumor of a North Amrican Union. I can't help but notice that as soon as NAFTA was passed, my hometown of Bham, AL was flooded overnite with Mexicans, 90% of them most likely illegal. It was around '97 and there was a huge exodus of illegals all through the southern states. It does seem that there's more going on than free trade.
    NAFTA helped to secure mexico into the neoliberal economic order. NAFTA flatlined the mexican economy almost over night, starting off a domino effect and subsequent jobs crisis. Clinton signed off an enormous bail out for mexico to prevent it from collapsing into a failed state. The influx of illegals is just a natural result of legislation designed to bolster corporate profit while simultaneously destabilizing the job market. There have been discussions of tying mexico, U.S, and Canada together in similar fashion to the E.U. for a long while now. That's not conspiracy, it's just ugly truth.
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