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    Quote Originally Posted by M4A3 View Post
    I have a pretty good understanding of the region.

    This should answer some questions for you. Media sources can never be counted on as being accurate, but this seems to be a plausible explaination of the actors involved.

    'Israeli Mossad agents posed as CIA spies to recruit terrorists to fight against Iran' - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

    Iran has been in a war against Jundallah for many years. About two years ago Iran captured and executed their leader.
    Thanks for the response and the link, M4A3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    your forgetting about the petro-dollar, it's not just about oil.
    Indeed.

    The Petrol Dollar is key to the survival of the American Empire. In 1972 The US convinced/made a deal with the Saud family in Saudi Arabia to convince OPEC nations to do all oil transactions in US dollars.

    This has allowed the US gov to run massive deficits to fund wars and empire expansion.

    the axis of evil = Iraq/Iran/North Korea = the 3 country's that have abandoned the dollar as primary reserve currency. the current Iraq govt is back to using the USD but Saddam had abandoned it and with that move he pretty much signed his own death warrant.
    Yup.

    Washington will never say it publicly but they get extremely unhappy when nation dump the USD.

    And some day in the future the Petrol dollar will fade away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smoothy View Post
    Indeed.

    The Petrol Dollar is key to the survival of the American Empire. In 1972 The US convinced/made a deal with the Saud family in Saudi Arabia to convince OPEC nations to do all oil transactions in US dollars.

    This has allowed the US gov to run massive deficits to fund wars and empire expansion.



    Yup.

    Washington will never say it publicly but they get extremely unhappy when nation dump the USD.

    And some day in the future the Petrol dollar will fade away.
    many don't understand the relationship between the USD being the primary reserve currency and the economic power that it gives the US. they also don't understand how taking the USD completely fiat was needed as there is no way you could supply the markets with so much currency and still have it tied to gold.

    things will get mighty costly once the US has to start paying exchange rates and US capital account holders stop getting all that free capital when USD are purchased from the treasury.

    and the day of the dollar hedge-money is nearing most did not even catch the changes in '09 in H.R 2847 and the recent actions in identifying US holders of foreign accounts for IRS tax collection at the rate of 30% for those that are non-exempt. while not exactly capital control it prevents those with the means to leave the US with their money as they will be taxed at the rate of 30%, which is substantial.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    while not exactly capital control it prevents those with the means to leave the US with their money as they will be taxed at the rate of 30%, which is substantial.
    God bless America, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    and the day of the dollar hedge-money is nearing most did not even catch the changes in '09 in H.R 2847 and the recent actions in identifying US holders of foreign accounts for IRS tax collection at the rate of 30% for those that are non-exempt. while not exactly capital control it prevents those with the means to leave the US with their money as they will be taxed at the rate of 30%, which is substantial.
    Holy Sh*t, LAM.

    I missed that. (I don't have enough money to worry), but this is very disturbing.

    Taxing it at all is bad. And this is for individuals, correct? The corporations still get the loopholes?

    And, 30%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smoothy View Post
    Holy Sh*t, LAM.

    I missed that. (I don't have enough money to worry), but this is very disturbing.

    Taxing it at all is bad. And this is for individuals, correct? The corporations still get the loopholes?

    And, 30%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smoothy View Post
    Yeah CIA and/or Mossad, or perhaps both.

    IMO, the War against Iran has basically begun.
    I believe you're right on both counts. Iran has simply become too dangerous and since a full scale war probably wouldn't be a good idea right about now, the next best thing is to pick off their scientists!
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrenaline View Post
    I believe you're right on both counts. Iran has simply become too dangerous and since a full scale war probably wouldn't be a good idea right about now, the next best thing is to pick off their scientists!
    compared to Israel, Iran is a peace loving nation.
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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