Thread: Romney vs Barry

Originally Posted by FUZO

Lam just give it up your poster on your wall of barry will have to come down and used for lighting the fire soon. You have run your mouth but I know for a fact Barry will lose big

just like McCain was going to crush Obama...

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and the answer is hell no count on it

NO matter what this country is going down hill these kids these days growing up it's going to be bad that's why i think they did all this shit. Made everything high ass hell in prices got there money out of the stock market before it crashed and Marsha didn't care about her little year in a cottage knitting and baking pies minimum security wearing her own clothes for all the money see saved my dad lost a couple of hundred thousand we are the real victims in this, the upper middle class who now live pay check to pay check even tho you could see the signs coming the whole world is going to shit 1 % of the country is rich always have been always will be.

it's all fucked up beyond repair if you ask me i hope 2012 happens and i hope it hits me head on no suffering i got guns tho if it comes to it lol not kidding

Originally Posted by lam

just like mccain was going to crush obama...

if mccain would of ran his camp the right way yeah he would of. Dude your a lost cause now,your end has come. You can post all you want but barry is finished, like i said for every commercial barry comes out with and attacks romney we will have triple the amount. Barry cannot run on his record for the last 4 years. Cant you wake up and see this

Originally Posted by FUZO

if mccain would of ran his camp the right way yeah he would of. Dude your a lost cause now,your end has come. You can post all you want but barry is finished, like i said for every commercial barry comes out with and attacks romney we will have triple the amount. Barry cannot run on his record for the last 4 years. Cant you wake up and see this

and anybody with half a brain knows you can't fix this economy under a couple of decades...the working class is broke, they have no income, no wealth therefore no ability to consume. republican policy's work from the top down, which makes this problem worst not better...

the the GOP governors that have increased taxes on those that make the least..that will surely increase consumption and revive our consumption based economy...

Originally Posted by LAM

and anybody with half a brain knows you can't fix this economy under a couple of decades...the working class is broke, they have no income, no wealth therefore no ability to consume. republican policy's work from the top down, which makes this problem worst not better...

the the GOP governors that have increased taxes on those that make the least..that will surely increase consumption and revive our consumption based economy...

You can always tell a typical Liberal who wont even blame barry a little. Thats all you talk about is the right. But Barry could of done so many things and he didnt. Your barry obama underoos will have to go into the garbage

Originally Posted by FUZO

You can always tell a typical Liberal who wont even blame barry a little. Thats all you talk about is the right. But Barry could of done so many things and he didnt. Your barry obama underoos will have to go into the garbage

Obama is doing what he was supposed to do, he is nothing but a puppet like POTUS 31-45.

actually you take take JFK out of that list..he obviously wasn't or the gov wouldn't have assassinated him

Originally Posted by LAM

blah...blah...blah.....liberal controlled media

every time the GOP on the Hill has lost the upper-hand they change the rules cause they are nothing but a bunch of whinny crybabies but when they are in power they never, ever do what they accused the Dems of not doing...

debt ceiling raised 15 times under Reagan, 7 times under GWB..no balanced budget amendment...blah....blah...blah....

Yep, not answering a thing. You literally drank the liberal koi laid and slobbed that liberal knob. You are not even worth my time to read at this point. It's like Barry lying about his energy policy, it's as valuable as watching Richard Simmons.

Originally Posted by oufinny

You literally drank the liberal koi laid and slobbed that liberal knob. You are not even worth my time to read at this point. It's like Barry lying about his energy policy, it's as valuable as watching Richard Simmons.

that would be rather hard to do not watching, reading or listening to mainstream media.

take note of the downward track of labors share of the national income during the last 2 republican presidency's. globalization didn't come into effect until 1990.

Nonfarm Business Sector: Labor Share (PRS85006173) - FRED - St. Louis Fed

Originally Posted by LAM

then why did Rockefeller, Henry Ford, Prescott Bush (Union Bank) and GM all fund Hitler? they directly helped put him into power, gave him machinery, fuel, etc. to start WWII....

Did you really ask that??? All three of the people you listed are socialists. Your one of those people that think republicans are conservatives?


Bush was politically active on social issues. He was involved with the American Birth Control League as early as 1942, and served as the treasurer of the first national capital campaign of Planned Parenthood in 1947. Bush was also an early supporter of the United Negro College Fund, serving as chairman of the Connecticut branch in 1951.

All 3 Bush's are socialists, prescription drug plan anyone??

Henry Ford
Ford left most of his vast wealth to the Ford Foundation but arranged for his family to control the company permanently. He was known worldwide especially from about 1914 as a promoter of pacifism and as a publisher of antisemitic texts such as the book The International Jew.^[1]

Testifying at Nuremberg, convicted Hitler Youth leader Baldur von Schirach who, in his role as military governor of Vienna deported 65,000 Jews to camps in Poland, stated, The decisive anti-Semitic book I was reading and the book that influenced my comrades was [...] that book by Henry Ford, "The International Jew." I read it and became anti-Semitic. The book made a great influence on myself and my friends because we saw in Henry Ford the representative of success and also the representative of a progressive social policy

Originally Posted by LAM

and anybody with half a brain knows you can't fix this economy under a couple of decades...the working class is broke, they have no income, no wealth therefore no ability to consume. republican policy's work from the top down, which makes this problem worst not better...

the the GOP governors that have increased taxes on those that make the least..that will surely increase consumption and revive our consumption based economy...

They tried your bottom up nonsense, it was called the Great Depression which most historians agree was extended because of "the great society".
How has it worked for China? They are up to 1250 a year wages! 75% have indoor plumbing now!!
How about North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela?
Is there any place or any time in history that ridiculous concept has worked in the real world?

Dump the slave taxes and implement "The Fair Tax ACT" and you would see the greatest economic boom in the history of mankind.

FairTax | American for Fair Taxation | Tax Reform Solutions | Consumption Tax - Americans For Fair Taxation

As I read through these posts, I shake my head in frustration because it really doesn't matter who becomes the next POT USA. Really, it doesn't matter, the government cannot save this country, it is way too late. Our great country was sold out by Woodrow Wilson with federal reserve bank being the the shiny new owner way back in 1913. " I
I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. Woodrow Wilson

Our so called parties work in symphony together never being able to do anything for "we the people" because they are to busy being selling their votes and having elections bought for them by the unseen powers to the world that are right in front of your face(federal reserve bank families to name some). Our presidential elections have become a mochary, they look like a fricken sitcom on prime time media, the elects have zero integrity and cant tell the truth if they're staring it in the eye!

Ron Paul is the only man running that tells it like it is, but even if he was elected it wouldn't be enough to fix our issues, maybe only slow down the agenda that has been fast tracked over the last 100 years, mainly the last 3 years.

Rothchild was quoted "let me control the money and I care not who makes the laws" the federal reserve and lack of government that is by the people for the people is the frickem problem. George Washington was quoted "it is impossible to rightly govern our nation without God and the bible" our constitution was setup by men with character and integrity that cared about getting away from tyranny and a dictatorship. Thomas Jefferson was quoted "I fear centralized banking institutions more than a standing army" these men understood things that generations of Americans have not been taught. I will probably get flamed or whatever, but these things are true.

This debate thread is really interesting, I respect everyone's views and opinions, and i truly believe we all want whats best fornour great country. unfortunate thing is USA is not the country it once was, don't misunderstand me though, I would live no where else, but generations have been dumbed down and tyranny is already here.


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I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.

"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild.

Originally Posted by FUZO

Your saying your house is worth more,with all due respect what state do you live in because the city of chicago I have lost over 60k on my condo alone since barry came into offic lets not even talk about my house. So no disrespect but I have to call b-s

Metro Detroit. My house was built in 04 and I bought it in 08. The original mortgage was for $245,000. I got it as a foreclosure for $85,000. At the time it appraised for $98,000. The house next to me is almost identical and just sold for $135,000. The only add on to the house I made is a 26' X 12' deck.

Originally Posted by BFHammer

They tried your bottom up nonsense, it was called the Great Depression which most historians agree was extended because of "the great society".
How has it worked for China? They are up to 1250 a year wages! 75% have indoor plumbing now!!
How about North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela?
Is there any place or any time in history that ridiculous concept has worked in the real world?

Dump the slave taxes and implement "The Fair Tax ACT" and you would see the greatest economic boom in the history of mankind.

FairTax | American for Fair Taxation | Tax Reform Solutions | Consumption Tax - Americans For Fair Taxation

until manufacturing is outsourced to other country's in S. East Asia like it is already doing...

A New Chinese Export — Jobs | Knowledge@Wharton Today

Chinese Manufacturing in an Age of Resource Price Volatility - Knowledge@Wharton

it is the same cycle that has happened to every single country that has provided manufacturing labor for the world market, they get a "taste" of an increased standard of living then the jobs get shipped somewhere else where labor is cheaper..

capitalism is a scam......it is nothing but exploitation of labor and globalization is noting but a ruse to link the economy's and supply chains of country's together.

* and your fairtax.org link and program is another scam headed by the ex-head of the Dallas FRB and backed by the Bilderberg Group

Originally Posted by FUZO

Your saying your house is worth more,with all due respect what state do you live in because the city of chicago I have lost over 60k on my condo alone since barry came into offic lets not even talk about my house. So no disrespect but I have to call b-s

It's because you live in Chicago. Illinois is the most un-gun friendly state in the union. Eclipsing even Kalifornia.

Originally Posted by FUZO

You can always tell a typical Liberal who wont even blame barry a little. Thats all you talk about is the right. But Barry could of done so many things and he didnt. Your barry obama underoos will have to go into the garbage

Like I said before, you're a fucking tool shed if you think it matters who is in office. They all play for the same team and it isn't yours.

Originally Posted by DOMS

D'oh! My numbers were off. I didn't use enough zeros on the GDPs.

Here are the corrected numbers.

Country: GDP / population:
Australia:...........1,270,000,000,000 / ....22,328,800
USA:...............14,530,000,000,000 / ...311,591,917
South Africa:........360,000,000,000 / .....49,991,300
China:...............5,880,000,000,000 / .1,338,299,512
India:................1,631,970,000,000 / .1,170,938,000

Value per person (GDP / population):
Australia: .......56877.21
USA: .............46631.50
South Africa: ....7201.25
China: .............4393.63
India: ..............1393.73


Put anther way:
One Australian is worth 41 Indians to their masters.
One American is worth 6.5 South Africans.to their masters

Fixed. What good is it that an American generates 6.5x more wealth than an Indian when all of the money is going to the same 5 people anyway?

Things are a lot better for me under Obama, he has nothing to do with that, but I have noticed people are spending more. Romney will improve conditions for companies to take advantage of workers, consumers, the environment, etc. and I don't think that is necessary, they have it pretty good. Obama will do the same but under him it won't be as bad.

Taxes on the wealthy and companies should be higher than what I pay, they hog all of the resources. Everybody should have a tax burden, there should be no free rides, but to say our debt is driven by the few poor folk in the states that collect welfare is erroneous. Who benefits more from a good national highway infrastructure, me or fed ex? Who benefits more from a public education system, me or companies that hire products of that system? Who benefits more from blowing up other countries, me or Halliburton? Why should all of these companies pay a smaller proportion of their profits than me when they use everything? They get all of the use and pay half the rate that I pay. If I purchased a boat and split it 50/50 with someone and they used it 75% of the time I would get pissed, why is this any different? A companies profits are directly tied to shipping, hiring qualified personnel, etc., they should at least pay the rate I do.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Fixed. What good is it that an American generates 6.5x more wealth than an Indian when all of the money is going to the same 5 people anyway?

Things are a lot better for me under Obama, he has nothing to do with that, but I have noticed people are spending more. Romney will improve conditions for companies to take advantage of workers, consumers, the environment, etc. and I don't think that is necessary, they have it pretty good. Obama will do the same but under him it won't be as bad.

Taxes on the wealthy and companies should be higher than what I pay, they hog all of the resources. Everybody should have a tax burden, there should be no free rides, but to say our debt is driven by the few poor folk in the states that collect welfare is erroneous. Who benefits more from a good national highway infrastructure, me or fed ex? Who benefits more from a public education system, me or companies that hire products of that system? Who benefits more from blowing up other countries, me or Halliburton? Why should all of these companies pay a smaller proportion of their profits than me when they use everything? They get all of the use and pay half the rate that I pay. If I purchased a boat and split it 50/50 with someone and they used it 75% of the time I would get pissed, why is this any different? A companies profits are directly tied to shipping, hiring qualified personnel, etc., they should at least pay the rate I do.

Well put. The same goes for health care. What good is it if you have the best technology and doctors if only a certain few have access to it.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Fixed. What good is it that an American generates 6.5x more wealth than an Indian when all of the money is going to the same 5 people anyway?

Things are a lot better for me under Obama, he has nothing to do with that, but I have noticed people are spending more. Romney will improve conditions for companies to take advantage of workers, consumers, the environment, etc. and I don't think that is necessary, they have it pretty good. Obama will do the same but under him it won't be as bad.

Taxes on the wealthy and companies should be higher than what I pay, they hog all of the resources. Everybody should have a tax burden, there should be no free rides, but to say our debt is driven by the few poor folk in the states that collect welfare is erroneous. Who benefits more from a good national highway infrastructure, me or fed ex? Who benefits more from a public education system, me or companies that hire products of that system? Who benefits more from blowing up other countries, me or Halliburton? Why should all of these companies pay a smaller proportion of their profits than me when they use everything? They get all of the use and pay half the rate that I pay. If I purchased a boat and split it 50/50 with someone and they used it 75% of the time I would get pissed, why is this any different? A companies profits are directly tied to shipping, hiring qualified personnel, etc., they should at least pay the rate I do.

your spot on Dale...

PPP per capita is bogus. well all they do is divided the GDP by the number of persons in the US workfoce. 66% of the US workforce earns 40K or less and 55% earns less than 30K which is 35% less than the PPP per capita of $46K. inequality in the US renders most of the old economic indicators useless.

Originally Posted by Zaphod

It's because you live in Chicago. Illinois is the most un-gun friendly state in the union. Eclipsing even Kalifornia.

What planet are you on and what do guns have to do with how much your house is worth or how much money is lost and you bring up guns. Now go run along to your mother your nose is running

Obama & Romney are pretty much both the same
They both support:
Big govt.
Not cutting spending
Unconstitutional wars
Govt controlled health care
Taking away liberties
A welfare state
Bailouts
High taxes
Growth of govt.

Just to name a few....

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fuck this fuckin shit god damnit!

Originally Posted by Diesel618

fuck this fuckin shit god damnit!

Originally Posted by Swiper

Obama & Romney are pretty much both the same
They both support:
Big govt.
Not cutting spending
Unconstitutional wars
Govt controlled health care
Taking away liberties
A welfare state
Bailouts
High taxes
Growth of govt.

Just to name a few....

the exception of taxes that entire list is true and accurate. the US is one of the lowest taxed country's in the OECD and world. taxes on income, large firms and capital are at a 60 year low right now.

high taxes on US large firms where not the cause of them off-shoring jobs and reducing them won't bring the back either. they were off-shored to save on labor costs and to make a higher return on foreign capital due to the low interest rates out of the US central bank, which is a product of rising and increasing inequality in wages. the ploy by the far right to eliminate taxes on capital will only make matters worst. this would eliminate taxes on earnings from US based multinationals with foreign operations that are brought back into the US. and with the exception of the home sale only the top 1% of earners derive any income from capital.

it's a slow walk to the cliff or a sprint...those are our two choices in the US

LAM only votes for Obama because they're both black. LAM is just slightly more educated than the typical 99% in the African-American community. I'd have a lot more respect for LAM if he's just openly admit that there is a part of him that votes based on the fact that Obama is black.

After the past 3.5 years of total destruction by the Obama White House, there's only one of two reasons that anyone could ever vote for Hussein. Either you're black and need to stick with your people, or you've been living under a rock for the past 3.5 years and paying attention to the atrocities that he has brought to this country.