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    Military Detention Law Blocked (for now)

    This law is written vaguely (as they often are) and therefore can be misused against citizens.

    Military Detention Law Blocked by New York Judge (Update 2)
    By Bob Van Voris and Patricia Hurtado - May 17, 2012

    Opponents of a U.S. law they claim may subject them to indefinite military detention for activities including news reporting and political activism persuaded a federal judge to temporarily block the measure.

    U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest in Manhattan yesterday ruled in favor of a group of writers and activists who sued President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and the Defense Department, claiming a provision of the National Defense Authorization Act, signed into law Dec. 31, puts them in fear that they could be arrested and held by U.S. armed forces.

    The complaint was filed Jan. 13 by a group including former New York Times reporter Christopher Hedges. The plaintiffs contend a section of the law allows for detention of citizens and permanent residents taken into custody in the U.S. on “suspicion of providing substantial support” to people engaged in hostilities against the U.S., such as al-Qaeda.

    “The statute at issue places the public at undue risk of having their speech chilled for the purported protection from al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and ‘associated forces’ - i.e., ‘foreign terrorist organizations,’” Forrest said in an opinion yesterday. “The vagueness of Section 1021 does not allow the average citizen, or even the government itself, to understand with the type of definiteness to which our citizens are entitled, or what conduct comes within its scope.”

    Enforcement Blocked

    Forrest’s order prevents enforcement of the provision of the statute pending further order of the court or an amendment to the statute by Congress.
    Ellen Davis, a spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara in Manhattan, declined to comment on the ruling.

    The plaintiffs claim Section 1021 is vague and can be read to authorize their detention based on speech and associations that are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

    Hedges and two other plaintiffs testified in a hearing before Forrest in March, the judge said. A fourth plaintiff submitted a sworn declaration. The government put on no evidence, Forrest said

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    That's not scary or anything...




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    Quote Originally Posted by JCBourne View Post
    That's not scary or anything...
    It's not about "scary."

    It's about the law and the way it's written. It's too vague.

    And it's also, a slippery slope.
    It's an accurate statement that our current spending will not be increasing the debt We've stopped spending money that we don't have.

    -- Jack Lew, then director of the Office of Management and Budget, in Feb. 16, 2011 testimony before the Senate Budget Committee.

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    I was joking if you didn't catch me. That law scares the hell out of me, freedom of speech my ass!




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    The scary thing is that I know people who will cry that the judge was being an "activist judge" by blocking that. The fact that their rights are being violated and dwindling every day doesn't bother them so long as the government keeps them "safe."
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